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01-12-2011 02:42 PM  7 years agoPost 101
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unsubscribed in almost every thread this morning takes the cake.
I agree cuzz, why announce it--- just do it ! I think its a cry for help

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01-12-2011 02:48 PM  7 years agoPost 102
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posting "unsubscribed" is much like some dumb blonde chick stating "What-Ever"

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01-12-2011 02:50 PM  7 years agoPost 103
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] I agree cuzz, why announce it--- just do it ! I think its a cry for help
LOL Yup. Emotionally fragile.

Translation: I'm not happy with these threads and I'm gonna tell the world.

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01-12-2011 02:53 PM  7 years agoPost 104
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just the kind of "remarks" I was looking for... PMs sent...

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01-12-2011 03:16 PM  7 years agoPost 105
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Spitefire does make some good comments here that I can definitely relate to. Hitting the "wall" so to speak, can be frustrating. There was a period of time last year where I was learning alot rather quickly and it was fun. Things seemed to have slowed down and I just don't enjoy practicing on the sim as I used to. Transitioning some of the advanced stuff from the sim to my real heli brings more frustration and pucker factor than enjoyment recently, especially when I see vids of 16 year olds who've been flying as long as me, just put me to shame. Paying for crashed and worn parts gets kinda old too. Didn't have to do this as much with planks as I crashed less often. Some planks I flew for years until the nitro just soaked the balsa, ruined monokote or ate the foam up. Just threw one in the garbage a couple of weeks ago like that. Just wasn't worth the effort to restore it.
I think this guy hit the nail on the head at least with me...
I think if you just do it, have fun doing it and accidentally learn a new thing along the way you'll get more enjoyment. If you restrict yourself to having to always learn that next new thing then everything you do in life will lead to disappointment.
I think this may be why folks bounce around hobbies sometimes...cars, motorcycles, fishing, hunting etc...one gets to start new with something and learn it rapidly then when the wall hits...move on to something else.

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01-14-2011 01:04 PM  7 years agoPost 106
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01-14-2011 02:33 PM  7 years agoPost 107
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Plane or heli it's all the same. You have skilled planksters and skilled rotor heads, then you have guys that can barely fly either. One common thing is everyone is having fun regardless to which preference or skill level. How hard is it to pick a heli into a hover and set it down, how hard to take off and land a plane? Helis hover much easier than a plank. How hard to do a rolling circle with a plank or heli? Both are different. Give the heli or plank champ either and they will do equally well on the learnig curve. I will say one thing, airplanes are more relaxing to fly in a straight line and a tad safer in a similar weight/engine power. Planksters don't tic-toc in their face or fire debris quite as far.

As my buddy says on his T-shirt "if you can't hover, you're queer"

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01-14-2011 05:20 PM  7 years agoPost 108
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Plane or heli it's all the same. You have skilled planksters and skilled rotor heads, then you have guys that can barely fly either. One common thing is everyone is having fun regardless to which preference or skill level. How hard is it to pick a heli into a hover and set it down, how hard to take off and land a plane? Helis hover much easier than a plank. How hard to do a rolling circle with a plank or heli? Both are different. Give the heli or plank champ either and they will do equally well on the learnig curve. I will say one thing, airplanes are more relaxing to fly in a straight line and a tad safer in a similar weight/engine power. Planksters don't tic-toc in their face or fire debris quite as far.

As my buddy says on his T-shirt "if you can't hover, you're queer"
+1

Well said, Billebob.

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01-14-2011 05:42 PM  7 years agoPost 109
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Can all airplane pilots fly Blade mcx? Probably. Can all heli pilots who say that airplane flying is easy, bring back a $5k Comp-Arf back down in one piece? Probably not.

Is mcx flying really considered heli flying? Probably not. Is foamy flying considered a plank flying? Probably not.

You can get gutsy with a $100 ARF plank when comparing that to a $1k+ heli setup. Try that with someone else's $5k comp-arf with your checkbook out.

Helis and planks are equally easy for some and equally hard for others. They are both fun and that is why we do it.

Is there a reason to knock others just because they don't fly what you fly?

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01-14-2011 11:41 PM  7 years agoPost 110
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They are both fun and that is why we do it.
That is why i fly both helis and planks, because i can and its fun.

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01-15-2011 01:03 AM  7 years agoPost 111
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That is why i fly both helis and planks, because i can and its fun.
+1

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01-15-2011 01:43 AM  7 years agoPost 112
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Helis and planks are equally easy for some and equally hard for others. They are both fun and that is why we do it.
I would agree.
Is there a reason to knock others just because they don't fly what you fly?
Yes, cause its what guys do, bust balls

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01-15-2011 01:58 AM  7 years agoPost 113
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Yes, cause its what guys do, bust balls
That wasn't all that funny really....nope...not funny at all.

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01-15-2011 02:01 AM  7 years agoPost 114
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I think it's funny when a heli pilot picks up a foamy plane or simple 3 channel plane for the first time and can make circuits with it. They think that planks are for people who can't fly helis and are so easy. The analogy here is, a planker could pick up a coaxial helicopter and fly it well, and put it where he wants it. Does that mean he can fly helicopters? Well put him on a collective pitch 450 and see how long he lasts making circuits. Once again the challenge is in taking off, not hand launch, but actually taking off a tail dragger. Even landing a tail dragger or trying to land a plank in a cross wind is way more challenging than landing a combat plane.
I do see that heli pilots do tend to have better reflex's on general than the average plankers, and that the heli pilots at our field tend to be the better plankers as well.
hope you not making fun of me with this one because i am suck at plan i felt realy bad after i nearly crash my buddy glider while one the buddy box

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01-15-2011 03:57 AM  7 years agoPost 115
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With helis I think theres three levels, and it seems from what I see anyone who gets to level 3 gets there within 6 months, otherwise you just stay stuck at level 2 for ever, many never even get past level 1.

1. Hovering, fff, loops rolls and stall turns e.t.c

2. Back flips, forward flips, sideflips, tic tocs and inverted hovering.

^2B. Backward fight (upright or inverted), funnels e.t.c

3. Piro things.
There is at least one other state of flying, and that is knife edge flying. It's opened a whole new world of ways of flying for me! Man, helis are a blast, even after flying for a long time. I'm sorry...I'm an addict!

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01-15-2011 04:11 AM  7 years agoPost 116
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I will get another heli again at some point in the future, just hard to part with $500+ when I think what kind of plane I can buy, you can get a lot of plank for $500.

To put it into context when I crash one like this..

It only costs me $200 for another 50 size airframe like these ones, Im now on to my fourth $200 kit like the ones below now, roughly about the same as a new set of blades and crash components.

Ive crashed countless other planes in the space of 1-2 years or so (maybe 3 ), but I always replace the aerobatic/3d kits with another in much the same way as you fix your heli after a 3d crash, when I crash the other ones I usualy try something different for a change, maybe a new composite jet or what ever takes my fancy at the time.

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01-15-2011 07:59 AM  7 years agoPost 117
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I'm sorry...I'm an addict!
I think someone around here has a pill for that...but I can't remember who.

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01-15-2011 12:18 PM  7 years agoPost 118
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It took me 6-8months to hover a heli but only 6 flights (within a week) to get my stryker flying after able to do simple fig 8 with my heli. I'd say, it depends on what one means by flying. If its simple circuits and basic sports flying, then plane is alot easier.

However, I reached a point that I hit the wall when I got my funjet, lol, too fast and too small to see. Then I found this wonderful 3D plane. Love them, got the PA electric, addiction, now I got the profile LamYak. Still I hit the wall, lol, rolling circle, haha. Same with heli, can't seem to progress, lol.

Well that me, hopeless, haha, but hey, I still enjoy every single mins with what I'm able to do with them both

welcome to the dark side =)

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01-15-2011 12:43 PM  7 years agoPost 119
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Try that with someone else's $5k comp-arf with your checkbook out. bring back a $5k Comp-Arf back down in one piece?
No problem, Benny.
I'll have my checkbook out. The question is, are you gonna pay me when I bring it back in one piece?

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01-15-2011 07:01 PM  7 years agoPost 120
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No Paul I wasn't referring to you. Just making a general observation and stirring the pot of discussion. Anyway was the glider powered? I've flown powered and nonpowered gliders and those things have so much lift when they gain speed that you have to give a little down elevator to compensate on some models. My 110 inch Bird of Prey is a hand full on a high start if you're not used to it. It doesn't have ailerons so the rudder whips the tail around on turns causing some...discomfort. That is actually a little harder aircraft to fly than say a good fully symmetrical 3D plane that has a light wing loading (fly slower) and is more predictable.

Heli-cuzz. That 12.25 X3.75 is the magic prop for .46 class engines. I've used it on tower .46, OS .40SF, and .46FX and it worked great on my 3D planks. Not too fast, but the torque is wonderful!

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