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HelicopterMain Discussion › Not all airplane pilots can fly helis. But can all heli pilots fly planks?
01-10-2011 10:19 PM  7 years agoPost 21
Hellsiege

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Bad landings on planks though are almost always cheaper then bad landings on a helicopter

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01-10-2011 10:22 PM  7 years agoPost 22
wifeorheli

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Thank god this is a heli forum this can be a bad topic. I learned to fly helis never flew a plane. Waiting for parts for heli one time bought a plane to try it out. Take off/land/loop/roll ect first time flying. Havent flown it since. I just dont get the same rush like im on crack when i try a new move

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01-10-2011 10:27 PM  7 years agoPost 23
Jeff polisena

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Age old fight Alot of good plank pilots out there so if your one this not directed at you . Plank guys are not as tuned in to aircraft ,planes will fly with little to no knowledge as long as surfaces move in rite direction ,heli pilots know if it is not rite heli will self destruct. As far as plank guys learning helis or heli guys learning planks ,it is easier for heli guys to learn planks for reasons stated in previous posts . Forward flight is same and landing is the hard part but heli guys are more sensitive to small movements on TX sticks so not to over compensate or react.I taught a friend to fly helis then he wanted to fly planks he did two flights on plank with cord then he was on his own. I dont think it would be the same if other way around.

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01-10-2011 10:29 PM  7 years agoPost 24
burntclutch

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Started on control line at age 10-11 ,moved up to planes by about 12 ,
the only radio i could aford at the time was a 2 ch. ,left stick = elevator , right = rudder , fly around until no more feul then come in dead stick ,so you had to get the landing right the first time.
Those days there were no such thing as RTF , you got plans from friends then bought the balsa cut & sand stick until you had your plane ( definitly not 1 or 2 nights of asembly ).
Planes , I still love to scratch build , far less complicated than heli's , no goveners , gyro's - pitch / throtle curves ext. and the only bearings are those in the motor, but I find it very satisfing when my own build finally take to the air.
Heli's , I love the technical challange they represent , the electronics and mechanics , to me it is a bit like a symphony when it takes to the air , every aspect have to work together in the correct order.
So to me , it is not who can fly what , it is the fact that we enjoy our hobby ,and each one for his own.It makes us all more complete.
(At least it keep us out of prisons , we never have the money to sit in bars , use drugs excetra - because we spend it all on our addiction)

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01-10-2011 10:41 PM  7 years agoPost 25
derek533

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I fly both and thoroughly enjoy both. Each has skill sets that take a lot of time to master if ever at all.

When it comes to flying planks, as others have stated, landing is the one skill that I bet each of you who've never flown before would have some trouble with. Crosswinds especially and letting the plane ease into the slip stream just before touchdown. There's nothing on a heli that makes me feel as good as nailing a perfect greased crosswind landing. In fact, there is no maneuver that gives me the sense of satisfaction a good landing does, not even a hard 3d maneuver.

But that's just me.

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01-10-2011 10:45 PM  7 years agoPost 26
FILE IFR

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Age old fight Alot of good plank pilots out there so if your one this not directed at you . Plank guys are not as tuned in to aircraft ,planes will fly with little to no knowledge as long as surfaces move in rite direction ,heli pilots know if it is not rite heli will self destruct. As far as plank guys learning helis or heli guys learning planks ,it is easier for heli guys to learn planks for reasons stated in previous posts . Forward flight is same and landing is the hard part but heli guys are more sensitive to small movements on TX sticks so not to over compensate or react.
Well said and soooo true.

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01-10-2011 11:42 PM  7 years agoPost 27
asm

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I also fly both fixed-wing and heli. As other have said, a heli pilot can fly a fixed-wing once it's in the air. Taking off and landing, especially on a tail dragger scale war bird is completely out of heli pilot's usually element.

If you don't believe me, go get your self a 60 or 90 sized Mustang. Build it scale, meaning 60 size motor on 60 airframe. I bet it's going to be much more changeling then those trainer.

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01-10-2011 11:49 PM  7 years agoPost 28
mágico

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I've flown helis for 20 years.

Tried flying a F-16 DF foamy and was able do basic aerobatics, take offs and landings no problem. Really surprised myself.

Got a SU-26XP micro and fly it like I stole it.

The hardest thing to get used to was flying to tight spaces. I want to pull too much back on the elevator to slow down.

I have a 3D foamy and really enjoy flying it but I stay at altitude because I don't have the precision yet.

Its a good change of pace and less stressful, much less to worry about in setup and maintenance and cheaper repairs.

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01-10-2011 11:57 PM  7 years agoPost 29
SuperSixTwo

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i find with the planes i fly....due to the fact that planes are always on the move...and a helicopter can hover....if you get in trouble you can always stop and hover the helicopter. I find i must think way farther ahead then with the helicopter.

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01-11-2011 12:23 AM  7 years agoPost 30
Rogman88

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Somebody stated that plank crashes were cheaper than heli crashes. Interesting. When a plank crashes and you have to replace a wing it can be quite expensive but even more time consuming trying to rebuild the plank verses a heli. Trying to get the wings glued and aligned properly is a pain. That's even if you can find the parts for the plank. I have a half built Kyosho Breitling Cap 232 that I can't even get a cowl for. I scratch built a new set of wings but gave up on the build several years ago because it was a PITA. Heli parts are usually bolt on and replace what's broke and though they can be expensive, they are much easier to fix. A bad crash in a heli can usually be repaired. A bad crash in a plank usually means a whole new kit.

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01-11-2011 12:34 AM  7 years agoPost 31
asm

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Agree with Rogman88 said.

I think the discrepancy are many heli pilots here are comparing their thousand dollars heli with $120 fixed-wing foamie or trainer. It's no different when a fixed-wing pilot say he can also fly heli but show you a $150 Blade CX....

I do find heli much easier to fix than fixed-wing. It's all bolt-on. Nothing to do glue or sand.

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01-11-2011 12:39 AM  7 years agoPost 32
heli-cuzz

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This thread needs some plank action LoL

.due to the fact that planes are always on the move...and a helicopter can hover.
Planks can hover too!

I will say, hovering a plane is much more difficult than hovering a helicopter!
I learned helis first and found flying planes is a piece-o-cake.

Why is it I like to hover my planks and fly my helicopters?
I think I have HADD= Heli Attention Deficit Disorder.

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01-11-2011 12:42 AM  7 years agoPost 33
ChuckJrster

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A simple answer to the topic question...yes! But certainly not necessarily the other way around. (Flying only, not taking off or landing)

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01-11-2011 12:44 AM  7 years agoPost 34
Andypants

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All I know is helis took me forever to even get airborne, and I bought a ParkZone Mustang and was bored within a few batteries. Orientation is pretty simple and, barring the elite level which anyone can bring up but very few can do, you just need to remember elevator's reversed when inverted and that's more or less it. I learnt to hover the 4-Square on Phoenix to the point where I was sweeping the ground with the rudder in about an hour. Different orientations would take longer to learn - maybe another day? - and would also require a care factor. Not sure if Phoenix and/or the 4-Square are just really easy, but hovering a plane isn't terribly difficult and not sure what the hoopla's all about.

Rolling Harriers etc seem difficult, but in no way insurmountable. Compare and contrast with, say, piroflips or a piro circuit. Similar ideas and movements but any comparison is flawed from the outset.

Planks are my first love so before anyone leaps down my throat, remember I was marching in the Air Cadets at 10 and still have an old poster of a Hornet on my wall.

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01-11-2011 01:15 AM  7 years agoPost 35
max232

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I started with planes and I still fly one every now and then
I think at the average level helis are harder, I have been trying to do rolling circles with a plane and it takes skill. You can't just set it and forget it with the left stick
As far as landing goes, I was at the field one day with a planker and he had just finished landing and told me if I could do that with my heli he would buy one. So after my flight I autoed my 600 all the way down the runway(had to replace the struts afterwards) You know, he never did buy a heli though!!

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01-11-2011 01:26 AM  7 years agoPost 36
Hellsiege

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Was just saying bad landings with a plank (Prop strike, bending wheels out, nose overs, heck even ripping gear off) is cheaper then a bad landing with a helicopter (boom / tail strike, tip over, etc...) Overall though yeah planks are a rekit most of the time, but even then cheaper then helicopter rekits usually

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01-11-2011 01:34 AM  7 years agoPost 37
helixangle

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Blades are for real men, wings are for fairies

Be sure the juice is worth the sqweeze
Remember life is hard...even harder for stupid people

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01-11-2011 01:36 AM  7 years agoPost 38
ChuckJrster

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I've also heard the saying, "Airplanes are for guys with one dumb left thumb!"

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01-11-2011 01:44 AM  7 years agoPost 39
helismash

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I learned to fly heli's first. It was a CP Pro. I played with that for half a summer until that there was a flying field 4 miles from my house. I went there and an instructor was nice enough to take me up on a buddy box, it was easy to just fly around and land. So now I fly both planks and heli's. I would rather fly a heli any day but I do have fun with planks as well.

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01-11-2011 01:45 AM  7 years agoPost 40
ChuckJrster

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Yo Dog! My very 1st R/C anything was an older Blade CP Pro (the one with the gray canopy.)

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