RunRyder RC
 7  Topic Subscribe
WATCH
 1 page 1039 views POST REPLY
Scorpion Power Scorpion Power
HelicopterThunder TigerRAPTOR 50 › need engine advise
01-02-2011 09:51 PM  6 years agoPost 1
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

got a question yall..i am upgrading my 30 to a 50 after a crash and i am offering my 39 up for sale or trade and a guy offered me a os50sx non hyper.. how much less performance is there compared to a

os 50 hyper
OS 55HZ-H
TT 50

can the os 50 sx be upgraded to a hyper ie.[ne piston,sleeve,head] and such?

i am not doing hard 3d yet but i am doing casual aerobatics punch outs and starting the basics of 3d maneuvers ...

oh and if anyone has any rappy 60 parts laying around let me know i could use some as i have just crashed because my thumbs stopped working!!

thank you all for any help you may offer and HAPPY NEW YR

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
01-02-2011 11:10 PM  6 years agoPost 2
ROGER543

rrVeteran

bristol ct usa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

can't compare the 55 with a 50 but the only big difference between the hyper and the standard one is the carb. the head is different but only for better cooling. you won't really notice that big of a difference, unless your a 3d master

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-02-2011 11:27 PM  6 years agoPost 3
Quebec X50

rrNovice

Quebec, Canada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Think long term, go with a Os 55Hz

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-03-2011 01:28 AM  6 years agoPost 4
Neon Juripuri

rrVeteran

Peculiar Mo USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Might be better to ask this in the engine forum. You would probably get a lot more opinions.
As the last poster said,the 55 is a good motor. But if you plan on a lot of practice,you might be wasting a lot of expensive fuel. It is powerful,but it is also thirsty. I guess it depends on just how much power you really need.
I think you will notice quite a difference between the 39 and 50 even if it isn't a hyper. But I have never had a .50 non hyper.
If it was me and the price was right,I would just fly the 50 non hyper.
Fred

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-03-2011 01:49 AM  6 years agoPost 5
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

price is a straight up trade for my 39. the rest of the heli get a 50 facelift to

besides i will only get maybe 50 bucks for the 39 i think it is worthy and as i get better ill upgrade to a 55 or whatever is out at that time

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
01-03-2011 01:59 AM  6 years agoPost 6
johnbs8

rrKey Veteran

roseville michigan

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Think long term, go with a Os 55Hz
think even more long term "YS56sr"

TT X50 Nitro
Warp 360
Logo 550sx
TeaM KicKnWinG

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-03-2011 02:30 AM  6 years agoPost 7
ROGER543

rrVeteran

bristol ct usa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

are you getting a decent pipe or just a muffler?? i use coolpower 15% and with a good pipe it puts out lots of power, if your coming from a 30 size engine its a LOT more. tt engines are better on fuel than os engines but os has more power

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-03-2011 05:55 AM  6 years agoPost 8
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

ya i think ill get the 50 sx non hyper till i get better thank you all for the suggestions it helped out a lot to make up my mind

have a good one

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
01-08-2011 02:04 AM  6 years agoPost 9
Raptor Pilot

rrVeteran

Northern Ireland U.K

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

For what its worth, i have a 50SX non hyper and it is out performing my 50SX Hyper, both running on coolpower 30% and both in raptor 50's.
Id be happy enough with the non hyper engine, when you can out fly the engine/heli set up, then go after more powerful engines if the funds let you.

If it doesnt move and its meant too... use WD 40. If it moves and its not meant too...use duct tape!

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
01-08-2011 05:50 AM  6 years agoPost 10
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

cool

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
05-12-2011 08:58 PM  6 years agoPost 11
datidun

rrKey Veteran

N Ireland

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Does the 50 size non hyper take the same parts as the Hyper,such as rear bearings etc,im only aware that the head and carbs are different,thanx.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
05-12-2011 11:04 PM  6 years agoPost 12
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Yes

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
05-12-2011 11:18 PM  6 years agoPost 13
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

To give a update to all who helped. Thank you. I have been flying my 50 and it worked great good power. Then I acquired a hyper from a friend and I noticed a little better performance but that might have been due to a newer condition engine...then I got a nearly new 53 tt and although I am still in the process of tuning it right I can tell it has a ton of power and moves my raptor 50 se great. And right now I am in the process of going flybarless with out the electronics with the raptor fifty setup. Haven't flown it yet but I can't wait....Oh I have two raptor fifties one is a fifty and the other is a tt fifty three

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
05-12-2011 11:52 PM  6 years agoPost 14
payne1967

rrElite Veteran

uk

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

the advice with the no bar is to reduce the cyclic pitch to around 4 deg and increase it if you need it
and some expo
also hard dampers work good with no bar
but if you do at some stage put electronics on it some don't like hard dampers

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR
05-13-2011 12:14 AM  6 years agoPost 15
stargazerww

rrApprentice

parkside, pa.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Ok. I started out with ten and eighty percent expo. But i will lower the pitch to four to try it out for the first flight...mostly this is just a experiment but I will go electronic after this...am igoing to experience any weird flight characteristics?
And I do have the red dampers in

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR
05-13-2011 06:38 AM  6 years agoPost 16
jschenck

rrProfessor

La Vista, NE.

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

OS-50SXH = slightly more power than a TT50H, slightly less than a OS-50SXH Hyper. Great engine, easy to tune.

The ONLY real difference between a non-hyper and hyper OS-50 is the head and carb. They did make the pistons a little lighter - don't know of any other real changes. If you are not into smack-down 100% performance flying the OS-50 is a great engine and uses less fuel than the 55's.

I broke my last OS-50SXH non-hyper. mad at myself for that because it ran great and they don't sell them anymore. The non-hyper does use less fuel and I think is a bit easier to tune for 15% nitro fuel.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR
05-13-2011 02:28 PM  6 years agoPost 17
payne1967

rrElite Veteran

uk

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

on the no bar you may find that the heli pitchs up in forward flight

my nobar sceadu was an odd one it pitched down (this is not normal with fbl and multi blade head)

on your first flight you will just eed to get used to the heli being more responsive/twitchy than with the flybar

the other thing you need to make sure that the link rods are strong enough either use thicker rods or put a carbon sleeve over the std rod

main pitch +10
cyclic pitch +4 ,with the main pitch at 0 set the elevator and aileron pitch to +/- 4deg

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR
WATCH
 1 page 1039 views POST REPLY
Scorpion Power Scorpion Power
HelicopterThunder TigerRAPTOR 50 › need engine advise
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 7  Topic Subscribe

Saturday, September 23 - 10:06 am - Copyright © 2000-2017 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online