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09-08-2003 03:40 AM  14 years agoPost 1
Carey Shurley

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The Fury Gas prototype made its first flights today.

It has all the features of the Tempest 3D, plus a few more ideas.

I don't have a gallery here, so I won't be posting pictures, but there's going to be a section for future products on MA's website that will go into some details on both the gas and electric models.

The prototype weighs about 12 lbs without fuel or pull start, and it has some heavier than normal parts on it, so it may wind up being about 12 lbs full of fuel, have to see.

It allows for starting with a pro-flex starter, or it has a pull starter that can be permanently installed or made removable. The mounting system is the same in either case, so there aren't a bunch of extra parts involved to make it removable.

more info to come.

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You're paying 10 times too much for fuel!!

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09-08-2003 03:57 AM  14 years agoPost 2
BIGRCR

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Yeh, I had the display model tucked up under my arm all day Saturday at the Black Sheep event. Tim finally had to repo it while my back was turned . I would have liked to been with you setting it up Carey.

This one is going to be sweet!

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BIGRCR- John Garst

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09-08-2003 08:50 AM  14 years agoPost 3
Ken B

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OH GREAT! You guys are getting that going just at a point in my llife where I can't buy it! ARG!

I am looking forward to the pictures! Thanks for the update!

Ken B

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09-08-2003 01:52 PM  14 years agoPost 4
Kam Wyatt

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Gasser Xtreme 3D

I was impressed how well the Gasser was doing the xtreme 3D.

Henry Caldwell was putting Johns machine through its paces.

Awesome!

Kam

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09-08-2003 03:48 PM  14 years agoPost 5
torque

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Carey

Thanks for the update. I thought the new gassers were to be considerably lighter. do you have a projected time frame that the kits will be ready for shipping and also a ball park price?

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09-19-2003 04:01 AM  14 years agoPost 6
Carey Shurley

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Update

Prototype #2 now has quite a few flights on it. The model has been a testbed for finalizing dimensions, features, and material choices that meet the design intent, one of which is to run smoothly.

Its working VERY well. At hover speed or idle up, its smoother than some of the models I've seen running big glow motors.

Tim is working on prototype #3, which will probably wind up being the final version of the model. The intent here is to drive out some more weight, but keep all the goodness from #2.

The actual final weight is of course dependent on the exhaust system, blade weights, and battery size used but it looks to be about 12 lbs with some fuel. As others have pointed out in these forums, the zenoah motors aren't light so no matter what, they're going to be heavier than just about any glow motor setup.

Too early for pricing info.

Also using the Stator Gator GGS-23 governor sensor. This little gadget really works well. If you want to run a governor with your Zenoah engine, this is a must have, because there's not a simpler way to install it.

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09-19-2003 05:15 AM  14 years agoPost 7
rkelder

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Carey,

We need pictures email them to me and I'll put them in my gallery.

Ray

If I throw a stick, will you leave?

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09-19-2003 01:01 PM  14 years agoPost 8
Tom Carne

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This is really starting to get me interested in gasser's. What sort of blade sizes are envisaged for the model? Love to see a fury gasser with the old X-Cell canopy. It had a lot more style than the new fury canopy. Has anyone really tried to knock a bit of weight out of the Zenoah engines?

No rain on flying days:)

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09-19-2003 02:42 PM  14 years agoPost 9
BIGRCR

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Blades-I have been running the Gamma 700's in 182 grams. They fly great and have been on the gas bird for about 6.5 gallons. I am going to try the 710 mah blades and some triple tapers also. The 700's are a good blade for 3D though.

Later,

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09-19-2003 03:43 PM  14 years agoPost 10
Carey Shurley

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the model uses the Tempest head block, which effectively adds 15 mm to each blade, because its wider than the original head. Current testing has been with 700's, but am about to use 710's. This will have an effective blade length of 725mm as compared to the original gas model.

I used to fly the old config, which weighed a little over 13 lbs with 720mm semi profile blades and auto'd acceptably, although without any reserve. The new machine with 700's will auto with some hang time, so 710's should be even better.

Without more testing, the only recommendation at this point would be 700/710 blades. Once some more work is done it may get narrowed down to one recommended length/weight preference.

There aren't any plans to use any alternative ignition systems as standard equipment at least with the Zenoah motors at this point.

Probably also retest the G26 in the new chassis to see if it behaves any differently. It was not happy in the existing gas model.

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09-19-2003 11:55 PM  14 years agoPost 11
Malorie

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The Zenoah engine needs the flywheel to idle, so you would have to have some sort of flywheel on it anyway. So going to an electronic ignition wouldn't gain you much but would you would gain an electronic advanvce.

You can certainly loose some weight out of the crankcase, but at what cost? You will spend a buch of time modifying the crankcase to loose a couple of ounces and decrease the strength of the case. The whole point behind the Zenoah motor is cheap and dirty.

Just some thoughts as I passed by.
Malorie

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09-21-2003 04:33 AM  14 years agoPost 12
traderdave2

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Carey,

What gears does the fury gasser use. I heard it was 6:1.

Harlan

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09-21-2003 12:13 PM  14 years agoPost 13
Carey Shurley

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as with entire Fury line, there are going to be at least 2 gear ratios available, and 6:1 will be one of them.

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09-21-2003 10:15 PM  14 years agoPost 14
traderdave2

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Actually I was more interested in what the actual teeth counts were on the gears. 15 and 90?

Harlan

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09-22-2003 01:46 AM  14 years agoPost 15
BIGRCR

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Yes, 15 and 90 fro 6.0:1 ratio. The 14 and 90 is 6.43:1 . The other ratio on a guess may be in the neighborhood of a 15 and 87 for 5.8:1 ratio.

Later,

BIGRCR- John Garst

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09-22-2003 04:24 AM  14 years agoPost 16
traderdave2

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Thanks John thats what I wanted to know. I am thinking about stuffing gas engine into a freya and I am looking for some gears to make the conversion. Just toying with the idea for now. Seeing HC fly your gasser has inspired me a little.

Harlan

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11-13-2003 11:48 PM  14 years agoPost 17
Toadster25

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Fury Gas

I was just wondering how the fury gasser is coming along. Anyone have any info?

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11-14-2003 12:20 AM  14 years agoPost 18
wademcgee

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Carey

Carey,
Wade McGee here, video guy that met you at Tim's. I have a nice flight with the gasser and the ion going on the Mulberry DVD. I will try to compress that section and upload if for you if you want it, or others???

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11-14-2003 12:30 AM  14 years agoPost 19
raptorkid

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sure lets see it Wade

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11-14-2003 04:53 AM  14 years agoPost 20
wademcgee

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Here you go!

This one's for you Carey. Tell Chris I got some good stuff of the Ion on there as well.

Fury Gaser and Fury ION

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