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12-30-2010 09:56 PM  6 years agoPost 21
DEMONjoe

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Regarding the pitch stick it depends on the setup of this leveling mode: if you have 100% signal when engaged, you will not be able to override your collective. In this case it does not matter where your stick is. But if you e.g. set up 80% on the Horizon/Head gyro channel, override is possible again within a defined range. But: collective will never be completely overridden in this mode.

Hope I managed to make it a bit more clear to you.
Anyway, you can test all this on the bench and will see what I tried to get in words :-)

Cheers and have a Happy New Year 2011,
Joachim

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12-30-2010 10:37 PM  6 years agoPost 22
jyzoom

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I still have a question...I understand both cases of (1) hit the switch or (2) always on...the sticks need to be center. So when we say stick we are talking about cyclic stick need to be center.

For mode 2 it is the left stick (ali/elv) would need to be center , pitch/collective is not necessary need to be center - correct ?

I fly Mod 1 ...left stick (rud and elv) and right stick (pitch/collective and ali )......so in this case cyclic is in both left and right --- so I have have both stick center while pitch/collective do not need to be center ( Zero Pitch in my 3D flying setup ).

sorry for so many questions....just tryng to understand totally how it will work.

Jonathan

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12-30-2010 11:07 PM  6 years agoPost 23
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F1rocket, thank you, so, in acro without pitch, with self leveling on full time, centering the cyclic will self level the heli, 2 questions, obviosly, stick movements overide the self leveling, correct? And what about the cyclic stick just passing by nuetral?

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12-31-2010 11:24 AM  6 years agoPost 24
DEMONjoe

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Jonathan, you got it :-)

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12-31-2010 11:26 AM  6 years agoPost 25
DEMONjoe

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Love for scale: correct.
And self leveling does not care about collective.

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12-31-2010 12:15 PM  6 years agoPost 26
jyzoom

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Joachim, thanks.

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12-31-2010 04:30 PM  6 years agoPost 27
love for scale

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So quickly passing by nuetral will not not cause it to self level? And I'm not sure what you mean by doesn't care about collective.

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12-31-2010 05:01 PM  6 years agoPost 28
jyzoom

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Love to Scale...

Here is how I understand it....in Always On - self recovery mode..what we are saying the cyclic stick need to return to neutral. And here it is the Aileron and Elevator need to return to central...since these two exit once you release the stick or sticks.

One stick or two stick will depend on which mode you are running, exmple I run mode 1 where Aileron/Collective is on the right stick while Rudder/Elevator is on the left stick. So I have to make sure the left stick is Neutral/center to ensure the elevator is center and this can be done by releasing the stick....while to make sure my Aileron is center I can either release the stick on control to ensure no input on aileron. Where ever the collective position will not mater on triggering the Self Level ..... but it will matter if the collective position right after the heli "self level" as I might get it inverted while it "self Level" and if my right stick is full negative then it will put it stright down to the ground. ( note this also depend on the
setup % to allow override in self level mode )

Here is where the Acro plus collective mode by hitting the emergency will come into better play...that is it wil override whatever your collective position and always give the right collective to ensure the heli fly up no matter if it is upright or inverted.

Of cause this acro with collective mode seems to be better but only if you are the type that react by hitting a switch when in emergency.....I tend to release the stick or try to recover before I hit the throttle switch. So it depend on the type of reaction you will see one of the two modes to be more suitable for you.

NOTE: This is all theory for me and not actual experience on HC3-SX at this point.

Jonathan

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12-31-2010 06:19 PM  6 years agoPost 29
DEMONjoe

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That's right it. Only cyclic commands are intersting for the leveling, no matter where the collecive signal is.

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12-31-2010 06:26 PM  6 years agoPost 30
love for scale

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I fly mode mode 2, and I do not do inverrtwed or 3d anything, just scale. So only a little negative pitch at low stick.

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12-31-2010 11:51 PM  6 years agoPost 31
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HAPPY NEW YEAR !!! (from Germany :-) )

For scale you have a special level option, which is the first. This is the only one for a nkt symmetrical collective.

Joachim

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01-01-2011 12:12 AM  6 years agoPost 32
love for scale

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So the "acro" with out pitch mode? Good point, my hover pitch will be mechanically set for mid stick!

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01-08-2011 03:09 PM  6 years agoPost 33
crazzyjoe

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Hi Guys,

I just finished installing the HC3 SX on my Rad 30 gasser and i'm not using a external receiver just 2 satalites.

I do not see anything in the instructions about a Failsafe if the signal is lost. I did turn the radio off and noticed that the HC3 still tries to keep the swash level but is there a way to set it up so the throttle goes down to a set value so the heli doesn't just keep going up up and away?

Joe

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01-13-2011 01:15 PM  6 years agoPost 34
crazzyjoe

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Again, How about a Failsafe feature to bring the throttle down.

I'm not using a external receiver so it would be nice to have that for safety reasons.

Joe

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