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09-08-2003 02:05 AM  14 years agoPost 1
Eco_8_Kid

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Good Things about the Raptor:


Very inexpensive
Simple design aids building & repairs.
You can drop the engine without even removing the muffler!
It flies VERY well - as with most modern helis it can be set up for either "mild" or "wild" as you wish.
The pre-builts with engine are the very least expensive way we know to get you into a decent 30 heli/engine/muffler.
The assembly work on the ARF''s is generally quite adequate.
Parts are not only cheap, but often more complete than other brands.
Belt Drive TR is simple and effective.


Not Good Things about the Raptor:


The stock ARF muffler absolutely sucks. It's loud and either leaks, falls off or both.
Some of the parts are a bit too cheap, break more often than any other major brand (tail cases, tail pitch plate, TR rod supports, etc)
ARF only - the TT36 engine has far poorer quality control than OS - some of the ThunderTigres are exceptionally good engines, some won't run at all. In general they are okay for the money.
There have been some QC issues with clutches, and the weak frames facilitate clutch failures. The clutches sometimes have far too much clearance (from liner to shoe) and can thus fail easily. There are also occasional bearing sleeve issues (wah-wah) and tracking issues (woof & poof), both of which are curable.


thee cheap becuase there carppy, there expensive becuase they are good

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09-08-2003 02:21 AM  14 years agoPost 2
spurry

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What do you want, a medal? I'll go along with the pro's, but it looks like you've copied the con's from someone who's been flying the V1. There was alot fixed in the V2 model that takes care of almost all the bad issues.


The headblock,grips,spindle,grips, clutch, start shaft and many other things have all been improved and it comes with the new TT-39 which is known to be more powerful than the OS32 but just not quite as reliable.

Hey, you can only call them a crappy as an excuse once you've dumb-thumbed it!

James

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09-08-2003 02:26 AM  14 years agoPost 3
Eco_8_Kid

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yo

Yo spurry im just tellin ya dude chill thats my opinion OK im not saying that raptor sucks or crappy so chill

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09-08-2003 02:29 AM  14 years agoPost 4
spurry

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I was kidding, but ok u cool dude, I'll pop a chill pill and catch ya l8er homie!

James

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09-08-2003 02:31 AM  14 years agoPost 5
srslamalot

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So, in your opinion, is it worth it to buy a cheap helicopter and hope it holds together (even though if it doesn’t, parts are cheap). Or spend a little extra for a quality machine?
I bought an X-Cell .30 about 12 years ago, but never had time to really learn how to fly. I cleaned it off about 4 years ago when I decided to give it another try (cause I finally had the time), and I nothing broke while I was learning to hover, nose in hover, and into forward flight.
There were cheap helis on the market at the time ( I think the Ninjas were like Raptors back then) but I thought the X-Cells were built better, and so far, it’s worked great for me.
Just my 2 cents.
Tom
btw, I've never flown a Raptor, so I have no personal opinion of the heli. But I've heared mixed ones from others.

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09-08-2003 04:07 AM  14 years agoPost 6
RobG

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I think you want the Century forum at the top dude, lol

Seriously though, You can buy a brand new hawk kit for less than $225 Canadian. I've never flown or seen a hawk but aparently they're not bad for beginers.
Rob

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09-08-2003 04:57 AM  14 years agoPost 7
drdot

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My two cents..

I am on my eighth raptor of various sizes...I can fly anything I want,
and have tried many other brands...Some of these were much more expensive, many were harder to build, but none give the all round capabilities of the Raptor series. I follow this forum religiously, and many of the Raptor issues I see relate to poor building techniques or lack of understanding.
I do lots of little, simple things to the ships as I build them, and have always had very smooth, reliable helis....As another example, RodK is on his 13th or so gallon of 30% in a bone stock R 50..130+ flights, no crashes, no worn parts, no problems..

Raptors do have some small issues,as do all heli kits, but dollar for dollar and then some they're hard to beat.

John.

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09-08-2003 05:02 AM  14 years agoPost 8
MAH

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Actually what he posted here was lifted verbatim from
Heliproz's web page. Check it out here:

http://www.heliproz.com/raptor.html

Mike Hammer
Galesburg,Il

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09-08-2003 05:22 AM  14 years agoPost 9
yah1003_us

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So that more metal upgrade can be sold....

In fact, I think this review is written for Raptor V1. There are many thing wrong and also some improvement in V2.


I haven't had anything broke on V2 during flight. The clutch failure is no longer seen in V2. And "weak frames facilitate clutch failures"?? Go buy a Sceadu (the original one) and see how weak the frame is! TT36 is long gone, now people are talking TT39.


What is the purpose of this post

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09-08-2003 05:27 AM  14 years agoPost 10
RobG

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John
I agree 100%
Allthough I've only built 3 Raptors, I've never had any problems normally associated with them. It's simple, take your time and build it right = no woof and poof, no clutch failures (as long as you watch the clearance), no tail rotors flying apart, ect.
Can't beat it for the price
Rob

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09-08-2003 10:39 AM  14 years agoPost 11
spaceman spiff

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Is this the same kid who got kicked off RCU?

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09-08-2003 10:52 AM  14 years agoPost 12
spurry

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Don't think so. Don't get this pleb confused with Eco8_Kid (Mark Sampson) who's actually doing pretty well now. He was called RCFIREWINGS on there. Now he's flying well with JA1010!

James

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09-08-2003 10:56 AM  14 years agoPost 13
Raptor Rulezzz

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I don`t think he ever saw a Raptor fly for real

Rich

ps. I LOVE raptors... there great... and cheap....


Ow... he forgot to tell the whole story...(that`s what`s above the pro`s and con`s he mensioned)

The ThunderTigre Raptor 30 is the LEAST EXPENSIVE way to get a DECENT flying and simple to build heli in the air. These are really GREAT flying helis, and if you have to suffer a crash THIS is the heli you want to be buying repair parts for!

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09-08-2003 12:44 PM  14 years agoPost 14
ez-flier

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Hi Eco_8_Kid, i gotta say, i don't understand where you're coming from on this, raptors are great, and from what i understand, you've never had first hand experience with it, so how can you bash something you haven't used or seen? What gives? Wait until you can find something that YOU KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE, then give YOUR OWN OPINION, raptors are great, i like their design, and the way they fly, they have fixed ALOT with the new v2's. I'm sorry you think you don't like them.
Aaron

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Magnum Rep

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09-08-2003 02:54 PM  14 years agoPost 15
Minor Problem

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Why is it neccessary for total spunk trumpets to belt out someone elses opinion and declare it to be their own.

Get a life, learn to fly and when you have your own opinion come back and we'll talk then.

MP

James Bond doesn't have to put up with this sort of sh*t...

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09-09-2003 12:11 AM  14 years agoPost 16
Spitfire_mk5

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