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09-07-2003 07:36 AM  14 years agoPost 1
Tigger Fish

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I currently fly a raptor 50 v2 with OS50 + Logo 10

I am wanting to buy a scale helicopter but not sure the best way to do it.

i.e Fuselage Kit to cover Raptor 30 / Shuttle etc or
Fuselage Kit + Mechanics to match

What are the pros and cons of each?
Can you recommend any makes, I would like a bell jet ranger or similar. Ideally it would be pre-painted as my painting skills are not too hot

I have built a Raptor 50 and Logo 10 but would say I am still a beginner in the sport but learning well. I can hover well, land on the spot and am learning lazy 8's. I will continue to learn on the raptor as it will be much easier to repair if I have a crash.

Any advice would be gratefully received.........

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09-07-2003 02:29 PM  14 years agoPost 2
fritzthecat

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My personal opinion:
Get a Funkey 46 Long Ranger or A109 (prepainted) and wrap up your R50 in it. This one has my own paintjob:


For aerobatics get a R60 or the newer R90.

Fritz


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09-07-2003 03:54 PM  14 years agoPost 3
Tigger Fish

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That is a great paintjob, a lovely machine .....

I want to keep the raptor as it is for practicing new manouvers as I would be too scared to learn new manouvers in a scale model. I have not crashed yet but would rather do it on a pod and boom model.

One option would be to buy another R50 and put it in a shell. Is this easier than one with its own mechanics??

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09-07-2003 10:20 PM  14 years agoPost 4
Gearhead

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the very easiest would be to buy the Century 300 S, or any of the panted 30 scale kits...


Jim

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09-08-2003 06:20 AM  14 years agoPost 5
imback

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tigger fish

whether you purchase different brands of helicopters, or stick to one, is your choice. century puts out a number of arf kits in the .30 size for about $525.

on the other hand, if you like your raptor, why not buy another one and put it in the funkey longranger. the fuse is available prepainted. i fly my p&d rappy and attempt to learn new maneuvers. when i want to do some scaling, i take out the longeranger.

there is a picture of my longranger in my gallery. the picture was taken to show the scale skids, not the helicopter. if you would like better pictures, i can load a few more that show the helicopter better.

your post says that you like jetrangers. the longranger is nearly the same. the rappy 50 into the .46 size funkey longranger is a simple project and flies well! there are also a couple of web sites with step by step instructions to put the rappy into the fuse. you will love it!

nels

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09-08-2003 06:39 AM  14 years agoPost 6
GMcNair

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Tigger, you've gotten good advice from everyone so far, especially concerning using your existing Raptor.

The easiest approach, aside from purchasing a completed model, is to buy an engineered kit. This means that all components, from the mechanics, to the body, to the mainblades, are designed to work with each other in near perfect harmony to form your flying pride and joy. Just follow the directions and it comes together like magic. Off the top of my head, here's some distributors who sell engineered kits:

http://www.v-eastonline.com (Graupner)
http://www.variousa.com (Vario North America)
http://www.modelrec.com (Hirobo North America)

Each distributor sells various models of all shapes and sizes, and all 3 offer a version of an engineered Jet Ranger and/or a Long Ranger. I am currently building a Graupner Electric Jet Ranger ( http://www.scalerchelis.com/gallery/gregmcnair ---- see the TH-67 album), and I am building a Raptor 50/Funkey Long Ranger for a local friend. The Raptor project is not engineered; I have to make the mechanics fit the fuselage. The Graupner project goes together like any other kit helicopter, except the mechanics were already completed, so half the battle was already won! If painting isn't your forte', but you like the idea of an engineered kit, then sub the paintwork out to someone else.

Go for it, it's a very rewarding aspect of the rc heli hobby!

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09-08-2003 09:52 AM  14 years agoPost 7
Tigger Fish

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Thank you for all your advice, I like the sound of the engineered kits.

My local heli shop does not sell scale, but has raptors stacked to the ceiling. I think I need to have a day out and visit a shop with a good selection of scale models. There is one about 100 miles from me so Ill make a day of it.

Thanks again for all your advice

Steve

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09-09-2003 02:57 PM  14 years agoPost 8
Dr.Tim

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Plus if your already happy with your Rapter .... A Good Friend of mine puts out these Rapter Rangers! Check them out! http://www.rconics.com/
About 6 hours to complete!

Dr.Tim

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09-11-2003 09:40 AM  14 years agoPost 9
Tigger Fish

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After many hours surfing the net I have decided to go for a Funkey Long Ranger. I love this helicopter and have decided to go for it unpainted and get an airbrush artist to paint it for me. This way I can have a unique design.

I now have another question if I may?

The following mechanics all fit into the Long Ranger without modification. Which would you recommend?

Hawk SE
Shuttle Plus, Z, ZXX, TS
Concept & VR
X-Cell 30
TSK 30 (who makes this ???)

The raptor will fit but needs modification and as I am buying another one for this I might as well buy one that fits

Thank you all for your help
Steve

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09-11-2003 10:31 AM  14 years agoPost 10
lt1pwr

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Recommended Mechanics

Steve, another heli that will fit very well is the JR Voyager 50. There is plenty of room in the fuselage after the Voyager mechanics are installed. The only modification that I had to make was to trim some of the end plastic on the tail rotor case. Some dremel work to get the mechanics to slide in past the bulkhead and I had to cut a larger opening for the main rotor.

Check my gallery for pics!

Jay

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09-12-2003 06:07 PM  14 years agoPost 11
Heli143

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Hey Tigger Fish,
you already have a Raptor 50. I would be leary of any idea that any mechanics will fit without modification (just learned this from experience with a Hawk/Long Ranger). before you decide to get other mechanics, why don't you take a look at Mark Mcalpine's site about building a Raptor Ranger. you may change your mind. Mark's site is at:

http://www.geocities.com/markmcalpine/index.html

Also, take a look at The Rotorbreak site at:

http://www.aimriverside.com/~daveb/

Good Luck.

Roy Mayoral

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09-13-2003 07:59 AM  14 years agoPost 12
Tigger Fish

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Well, my better half always said I could never make a decision. But now I have, at last........

I have gone for the Graupner Mini Ecuriel + Uni Mechanics with OS46 Engine. I was put off graupner by the price in the UK but have ordered it direct from Germany at a cost of £350 ($560 USD) for Fuselage and Mechanics pre built with OS46 installed. It even includes delivery to the UK.

I now know it will all fit together well and love the shape of this fuselage

Thank you all for your help. I am one of the most undecisive people around but I made it in the end. I just need to decide on the paint scheme now (that will keep me busy)

The favourite is a "Duff Beer" scheme from the simpsons

Any more ideas ????????????

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09-13-2003 12:38 PM  14 years agoPost 13
heliraptorrrKey Veteran - Colchester, Essex, UK - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Hi

Or another option with the Graupner fuselage, here's mine with an OS32, TT39 would be better or you could go straight for the OS50. Whatever you decide its a cheap and effective way to start scale heli's.

Build up is on my website in the scale section.

Lee

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09-13-2003 04:41 PM  14 years agoPost 14
Tigger Fish

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Lee,

We were talking about your heli today. I saw it on an american site in the week whilst looking for ideas on a paint scheme.

I fly at Sheffield Model Heli club and we had the real thing flying around this morning. Is yours based on the South Yorkshire Police Helicopter? I understand the essex helicopter is the same colour.

I have gone for the Uni-mechanics with OS46 so should have plenty of power.

Best regards
Steve

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09-13-2003 04:47 PM  14 years agoPost 15
Tigger Fish

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I am being slow, I see you live in essex so I will presume this is a model of the essex helicopter.

The South yorkshire one is the same colour scheme.

Thanks for the web link

Steve

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09-13-2003 07:44 PM  14 years agoPost 16
heliraptor

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Hi Steve

Famous at last, what were you saying about me ????????

Yep the Essex one, they have just changed it to the EC 135 though, funnily enough I am working on one right now, 135 that is, but I'll do the local air ambulance, its easier than EPOL as you dont have to make up night sun lamps, microwave downlinks and FLIR pods etc Keep us updated on your scale job.

My heli is used on the Graupner USA site (V East) as an example for the mini squirrel which you have bought. I was well chuffed !!!

Lee

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09-13-2003 08:34 PM  14 years agoPost 17
Tigger Fish

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Lee,

We were discussing what paint scheme to use on my Ecureuil and someone suggested the South Yorkshire Police Helicopter. I had seen the one on the V East site and thought this was the Yorkshire one as they look the same. It does look great, you have done a great job on it.

Later on we saw the real one flying around. It is based down the road at Sheffield airport. I will have to go and have a look.

I am not sure if I want a true scale model or make up my own scheme. I'll play around with a few designs on paper and then choose.

I was also going to get it painted professionally but am thinking I should do it myself, it may not be quite as good but you only get better with practice!!!

I'll let you know what I choose.

Best regards
Steve

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