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HelicopterKyosho Caliber/Quest Neo-Caliber series › Does the Muscle Pipe 30 fit the Caliber?
09-06-2003 10:26 PM  14 years agoPost 1
wouter

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Anyone who tried this?

I'am affraid it would get too close to the tank.....

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Wouter

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09-10-2003 04:04 AM  14 years agoPost 2
d-n-jensen

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I just got a muscle pipe 2 for the 30 for my caliber. It does just touch the tank so I beveled the pipe where it meets the engine and made a 3/64" alum gasket and now have about 3/16" clear between the pipe and the tank. I have not flown it yet but Ill let you know how it does when I get back from Brooks.

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09-10-2003 07:31 PM  14 years agoPost 3
wouter

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thanks for testing it

Do you have any pics of it?

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09-11-2003 01:06 AM  14 years agoPost 4
sharam

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I just bought one and will try to see if it fits my Caliber 30. I probably have to get some sort of an extension/gasket for it.

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09-11-2003 02:22 AM  14 years agoPost 5
d-n-jensen

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As I said if you put a very slight bevel on the header face you can get about 1/8" and I added a home made alum gasket to get 3/16" which is more than I had with the KSJ muffler I was using.

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09-12-2003 01:43 AM  14 years agoPost 6
MooseLoad

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Got some pics?

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09-12-2003 04:18 AM  14 years agoPost 7
d-n-jensen

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Yes I do but I cannot get them into my gallery until next monday. I can e-mail them to you directly

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09-16-2003 12:32 AM  14 years agoPost 8
Futurac

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Caliber

we flew the MP2 30, it fits on Caliber, and works very fine with this heli

Alex (Formerly Known as RCMarket )

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09-16-2003 01:30 AM  14 years agoPost 9
d-n-jensen

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I too put 4 flights on mine and it does make power. It is very loud though. Loud enough to make me wonder if something is wrong?

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09-16-2003 02:24 AM  14 years agoPost 10
MooseLoad

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Any pics of the mods you had to make d-n-jensen?

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09-16-2003 03:07 AM  14 years agoPost 11
d-n-jensen

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Look in my gallery for the pics

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09-16-2003 03:24 AM  14 years agoPost 12
MooseLoad

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Thanks man...looks nice. How much of a differance do you honestly think it makes over the stock muffler?

Thanks man!

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09-16-2003 03:45 AM  14 years agoPost 13
d-n-jensen

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At least 10%+. Before I was able to drag the head down easily and it would take a lot of unloading to get the rpm's back up but with the pipe it does not drag down as easily and the rpm's pop back up much quicker. I need to look at the connection to see if I have a leak which would make some of the noise but It was unpleasent when hovering in front of me.

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09-16-2003 04:36 AM  14 years agoPost 14
MooseLoad

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Hummm....thats one of the things I really like about the caliber..nice and quiet. I can take it out into my front yard and check the changes I made to the curves and not have the neighbors bitch (or the SP's called for that matter as I live on base.)
Let me know if its just a leak or just that noisy. I wonder what putting that pipe on and going to a TT39 would do.....

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09-16-2003 05:44 AM  14 years agoPost 15
Optech

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I'm wondering if Jensens mod disrupts the tuning any. I realize MPII is much more forgiving than the MP1 but I dont have the machine tools to make sure I get an even straight bevel so that was simply not an option for me. I've had too many leaky mufflers to intentionally chance things.

What I did will decrease your tank capacity a little bit. I heated the tank on the muffler side with a monokote heat gun then pushed in the tank side a slight amount, with a large diameter glass drinking cup. Heat it until it gets very warm and pliable (more than it already is). I then waited for the tank to cool. It doesn't take long and will hold the new position. If you find you need more space, do it again.

Mike

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09-16-2003 09:16 AM  14 years agoPost 16
wouter

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Futurac, how did you make it fit?

like Optech i don't have the tools to do Jensens mod.
And i don't know about heating the tank. I think once it has been
heated i might melt more easily from the heat comming from the MP.

I think i will put an extension between the engine and the MP. That 'll
probably be the easiest way.

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09-16-2003 04:59 PM  14 years agoPost 17
d-n-jensen

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Tools??? what tools? All I used was a glass table and some 120 grit wet dry sand paper. The instructions that come with the pipe say to use high temp RTV as a gasket sealer which I did not use. There is no outside visable evidence of a leak. I do want to hear from other who have used the 30 size MPII to see if they think it is loud or not. I have mine on a TT39 and it does make great power and you have to open the needles a lot. More fuel in = more power out.

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09-16-2003 10:27 PM  14 years agoPost 18
Optech

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Its not a good comparison but I'm using an OS .50 and the 50 MP2-high ratio version. I too remember thinking the pipe was a little loud the first time I ran it. However, the .50 at the 9.6-1 gear ratio in the Caliber makes the .50 really rev so I was attributing the loudness to that.

Mike

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09-20-2003 05:17 AM  14 years agoPost 19
Optech

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I finally was able to get some pics of my fuel tank mod by using heat to fit the Muscle Pipe set up.

I now have several full power flights and the tank has not tried to reset itself at all.

Mike

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09-20-2003 08:20 AM  14 years agoPost 20
vortexgen

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hey optech,
just looking at the photos and saw your anodized blue engine mounts - got that 50 in and running i see.

how are your flight times??

whats your opinion in comparing C50 and R50?
I just posted mine in the conversion thread...

vort

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