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HelicopterCentury Radikal G20-30 N640 Hawk Predator › Surely the predator has a weakness.
09-05-2003 10:44 PM  14 years agoPost 21
choppertime

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Virginia Beach, VA

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Steve, I noticed you have the old Futaba 8UH radio. That's the same one I have. Does it do the eCCPM stuff? I am just getting back into choppers since I was involved with them 5 years ago. Where is the best place to learn about eCCPM? My search effort was rather fruitless.

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09-05-2003 11:12 PM  14 years agoPost 22
ppljr

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Dallas, TX (Grapevine)

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8UAP

Choppertime,

I have an old 8UAP (the non eCCPM version). I tried to program it as per the Futaba web page and the swash was all over the place. I got rid of it and bought a 9CHP transmitter ($270 at ServoCity and probably less if you use the module off of your 8U [save $50]). The eCCPM setup is real easy and the radio is totally worth it, comes with explanations on setting up AVCS Gyros and Governors. IMHO if you are going to go all out and get a Predator the 9CHP is a worthwhile investment.

Pedro

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09-06-2003 03:00 AM  14 years agoPost 23
hawkflier

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Cameron Park, Ca.

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biggest problem with predator

I don't have one

who the hell typed hawkflier instead of hawkflyer? Must have been that red headed stepchild of mine

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09-08-2003 01:24 AM  14 years agoPost 24
AGRAV8

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Mosquito Coast......Houston Texas

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Hawkflier:

DITTO here as well.

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09-08-2003 02:15 PM  14 years agoPost 25
DreamHobbies

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Long Beach, CA

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Choppertime - Sorry for the late reply. Yes, the 8uhfs that I have does the 120 ccpm mixing required for the Predator. There is a little interaction when you move the collective real fast, but in flight I never move it that fast, so I don't notice any interaction in flight. I'm not sure of a place to learn eccpm, but if you email me at steve@dreamhobbies.com I can help you program your 8u if it is the one with ccpm.

Regards - Steve

Steve Campbell

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09-08-2003 02:32 PM  14 years agoPost 26
Lift

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Houston, TX

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Choppertime,
Here is the Predator CCPM setup tips I posted awhile back. I have also bumped it up in our list.

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t45681p1/

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09-08-2003 04:56 PM  14 years agoPost 27
Kinger

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Granville, OH

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For you guys with the 60, how long are your flight times with the 22 ounce tank? 5 tanks per gallon sure doesn't seem like much, but if each flight lasts for a while it wouldn't feel so bad each time I had to pony up for fuel

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09-08-2003 06:18 PM  14 years agoPost 28
Lift

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Houston, TX

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Schuie Driver,
I haven't timed it on my SE but let me say I'm mentally finished before the tank goes out. Lately, I have been finishing the tank off shooting autos. I will say that it is longer than any other 60 I have owned. 22oz is pretty darn big! I know that on my Max I am getting about 12min flights. The SE is quite a bit longer than that! I'm going to guess that it's about 15-17mins and it has the gas hog YS .61 ST2.

The YS .61 ST2 and OS .61 WC both burn fuel at the same respective rates no matter what heli they are in. So, that 22 oz tank can be filled about 5.87 times from a single gallon if you fill it full. The only thing is whether or not you fill it full or fly it dry.

I'll time my SE tonight for ya and post back.

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09-11-2003 05:09 PM  14 years agoPost 29
Kinger

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Granville, OH

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Hey Payton,

Any word on the flight time with the 61?

Thanks!

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09-11-2003 07:07 PM  14 years agoPost 30
Lift

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Houston, TX

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Schuie,
When I went and flew the other night it was soooo windy that I ended up packing up. I didn't get a chance to really test it out for ya.

I'll try to remember next time the SE goes out. The Max is with me today but that's no help......

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09-11-2003 07:58 PM  14 years agoPost 31
SteveH

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Texas

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Schuie,

I haven't timed mine but I can tell you when I fill it completely, which I don't usually do, I get tired looong before it runs out!

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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09-11-2003 08:18 PM  14 years agoPost 32
Indrid

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Hamburg, NY

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hey tom, want some salt to rub that into our wounds more?

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09-12-2003 01:24 AM  14 years agoPost 33
Indrid

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Hamburg, NY

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you should put a second tank on that and then go for a 2 hour flight time

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09-12-2003 01:41 AM  14 years agoPost 34
Kam Wyatt

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cottondale, Fl.

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Toms Machine

Toms gasser runs so long that he has to wear green lens in his glasses to reduce eye strain!!


I was very impressed how well built and how quick tom put this machine together.

Regards
Kam

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09-12-2003 01:49 AM  14 years agoPost 35
Kinger

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Granville, OH

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Hey Kam,

Seems like some of the Century fliers are saying that that head of the Predator does not have enough dampening however, I saw your flights at IRCHA and you were beating the living snot out of the machine. Are you using some type of different head dampening system to keep the head solid?

Thanks,

Mike

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09-12-2003 02:43 AM  14 years agoPost 36
Kam Wyatt

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cottondale, Fl.

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Hey Mike

I am experimenting with some harder dampners that John Benario told me about that Ron lund has in stock.

They really hold up well.

I put alot of time on the stock set up and that is what I flew the first round at the xfc.

I think the stock set up is adequate, but, I will continue to experiment including adding clips on the blade axle like the fury.

I added Clips on the blade axle like the fury the head it, is much more rigid but in FFF is doesn't track strait like in the stock configuration.

So right now I think that I will go back to stock and play around with different dampners to get the feel that I like.

One thing is for certain this helicopter holds up to some serious agressive flying. Even in the stock configuration.

I let Henry Caldwell fly my machine at the South carolina fun fly and I told him try and blow it up. He was impressed on how well it flew.

The flight at IRCHA was conservative because at these events if you crash, and if it is pilot error, people still perceive that there is something wrong with the machine. I will have a video of the predator coming out soon that will show just what it is capable of and It will be flown completely stock even the rotor head/ dampners.


Very Best Regards

Kam

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09-12-2003 03:21 AM  14 years agoPost 37
jackheli

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Vancouver - Canada

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I don't know if you guys agree but on the Predator Sport the transparent tail blades look really flimsy. Also, there is no adjustment for the slipper clutch.

Other than that the Predator is a dream.

It's easy to find an excuse to do wrong. Hard is not to find an excuse to do right.

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09-12-2003 03:37 AM  14 years agoPost 38
ThBrtmn

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Savannah, Georgia

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Hey Tom

One word

Im sure you recognize this fella

~BART~

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09-12-2003 03:57 AM  14 years agoPost 39
Lift

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Houston, TX

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Jackheli,
I am running some clear plastic 105mm tailblades on my Max and they have been holding real well in fast backwards flight. So, don't sweat those blades. They are actually pretty darn good.

One thing though, on the SE 105mm tailblades seem to make ALOT of difference. That's what I am flying now is the Rotortech CF 105mm blades that came with my Max. They got donated to the SE and that is why the Max has the plastics on..

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09-12-2003 04:01 AM  14 years agoPost 40
Indrid

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Hamburg, NY

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yes i have those clear blades on it right now, got 105mm RTs coming in the mail. no sense in having a 70 powered SE with some cheesy clear blades

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