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09-04-2003 06:05 PM  14 years agoPost 1
Rev600ho

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Ok, I am still torn between the 2 and I am going to pick up a Fury Expert tomorrow, or wait until next week to get an Extreme!!!

I have only flown 30 size raptors and Excell 30's until now.
I tried out a Fury Expert with OS 60 WC and MP, I loved the machine and it SEEMED to have plenty of power, I fly mild 3-D, inverted hover, nose over tail flips, tic tocs, and am looking forward to learning much more agressive 3-d.

My question is this, If I purchase a Fury Expert with OS 70 and MP2 will I regret not buying the Extreme for $220 more?, or will the OS70 give me plenty of power to keep me happy?

I don't want to buy an Expert if I will be wanting to upgrade it right away, are the Experts bullet proof right out of the box or not, I hear of upgrading the tailbox, fan, bearings etc. or is that needed only when you Convert it to the Extreme?

Fuel use, crash cost, pucker factor, and build expense are my only reasons for not buying the Extreme right away.

Sorry for the long winded post!!! Please help me decide

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09-04-2003 06:11 PM  14 years agoPost 2
SolarXtreme

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Go with the Extreme. I was a little intemidated at first as I had only flown 30's before too. Crash cost is almost identical so it really is only the up front cost and of course fuel costs .
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09-04-2003 06:56 PM  14 years agoPost 3
G.Man

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if you buy an expert you will end up just buying the bits to upgrade it to an extreme later ...

just get the right one now....

dont discount the new pumped c-spec either

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09-04-2003 07:43 PM  14 years agoPost 4
Rev600ho

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??? Pumped c-spec, I didn't realize they offered one with a pump!!!

Are they available now?
How much?

Thanks

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09-04-2003 07:52 PM  14 years agoPost 5
Rev600ho

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OOPS!, I just about forgot, I won a 50% off YS coupon at the Rotary Ringout so I can get a YS91 for about $225.00 plus $20.00 for shipping. I think that would be the way to go don't you?

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09-04-2003 08:45 PM  14 years agoPost 6
Heli-Driver

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"OOPS!, I just about forgot, I won a 50% off YS coupon at the Rotary Ringout so I can get a YS91 for about $225.00 plus $20.00 for shipping. I think that would be the way to go don't you?"

Who is trying to sell you a YS91 for $450.00? (1/2 off coupon is $225.00?) You can get them under $300.00 new. Also you can get the C-Spec for around $260.00 online, it doesn't require a pump but is more consistant with one.

I hear there will be a pumped C-Spec released soon. I hear it has a Perry Pump mounted on the back plate. Not a big fan of the Perry Pump myself... but your mileage may vary.

There is a much better solution and that is the Cline Regulator that OMI sells, it works better than the Perry system and plumbing is much simpler.



Raymond

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09-04-2003 08:52 PM  14 years agoPost 7
Rev600ho

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RaptorDriver,

The coupon is only good off Suggested retail price only, it also has to be done directly with the YS distributor!!

The Suggested retail is about $450.00 thus the $225.00 price, I have already called YS and that is what it would be, they were out of stock until the middle of September!!

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09-04-2003 10:37 PM  14 years agoPost 8
G.Man

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The pumped C-spec was shown ar IRCHA i believe...

should be available anytime now


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09-05-2003 02:18 AM  14 years agoPost 9
Heli-Driver

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That's a pretty good price then. I didn't realize the MSRP of the motor.

You certainly won't buy one anywhere for that price. Mid Sept. isn't that far away, if you can wait, do it and save the bucks.



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09-05-2003 04:36 AM  14 years agoPost 10
JimmyY2KWS6

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Get the Extreme for sure. I like my Expert but I regret not buying an extreme from the start.

Jimmy

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09-05-2003 04:50 AM  14 years agoPost 11
Rev600ho

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Jimmy,

What engine are you running?

Why do you think the Extreme is so much better (other than power)

With the OS 70 out now and the extra cost of the Extreme and its fuel use and shorter flight times I was thinking the Expert was still a good choice, am I wrong?

The biggest problem I am having is that the Expert is in stock at the local hobby store, it is $220 cheaper, The Extremes are out of stock and I would have to wait to get one (not that big of a deal) The YS 91's are also out of stock!!! They should be in stock in about 2 weeks.

I really liked the Expert that I flew but I have not yet flew an Extreme, just hovered one (its 1st flight) so I couldn't see what the difference is.

I may buy the Expert tomorrow anyway, then that would give me an excuse to build an Extreme next spring when the snow melts (Minnesota) you know!!!

Thanks to all that have replied, I will check for any new input in the morning before I leave work to buy an Expert, or put money down on an Extreme----I still am not sure----Descisions, Descisions

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09-05-2003 05:14 AM  14 years agoPost 12
mongo

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you could use that 70 in the extreme as well. with all the gearing options they offer now, ya can find something to work with it. and get the bigger motor later..

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09-05-2003 05:50 AM  14 years agoPost 13
JimmyY2KWS6

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Jimmy,

What engine are you running?

Why do you think the Extreme is so much better (other than power)
I am running the Ys61ST2. The Expert and the Extreme are very similar so the only reason I want an extreme is power.

Jimmy

Fury Tempest 3D Fury Expert 60

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09-06-2003 12:18 AM  14 years agoPost 14
Ben74

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rev, i am having the exact same dilemma as you. i want the extreme, but the crash costs are the only thing scaring me off. that carbon tail boom that the extreme comes with is like $40, isn't it? i don't want to have to buy a $40 boom every time i crash. is there an aluminum boom available for the extreme, and if so what's the price?

cheers,
ben

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09-06-2003 05:00 AM  14 years agoPost 15
Rev600ho

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Ben74,

No, I don't believe you can put an Aluminum boom on the Extreme, only the Expert, someone correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, the boom and torque tube kit is around $80 for the Extreme--ouch!!

After long hard thought, I decided to get the Fury Expert, Even if it isn't quite the powerhouse the Extreme is, it has a few advantages and is a far cry from the Version 1 Raptor that I have been flying.
(sold it today)

I am on a tight budget and the $200 to $300 more it would cost to put the Extreme in the air would have meant that I would have to wait until spring to finish building the heli.

Besides, how could I pass up a heli that was on the shelf in front of me?

Thanks to all that gave input!!

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09-06-2003 05:03 AM  14 years agoPost 16
Rev600ho

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One more thought

I now only have an Excell 30 for a backup heli and am in the process of selling it, is the Raptor 50 a good backup heli?

So far that is what I plan to get next.

Thanks in advance---again!!

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09-06-2003 05:27 AM  14 years agoPost 17
JimmyY2KWS6

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is the Raptor 50 a good backup heli?
The R50 is a great backup heli. That is what I have as a back and I fly it like stole it when my Fury is getting charged at the field. I like that little thing.

Jimmy

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09-07-2003 05:22 PM  14 years agoPost 18
flyboynellor

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Expert vs Extreme

Hay guys,
Have you got used to the repair cost. ALL M/A are costly to repair. Buy a std Freya or a X-spec if you have the cash. The X-spec has ALL the upgrades included. Not like M/A that upgrades you to DEATH!!! The cost per crash is half of the cost of a M/A. Freya flys just as good as any Fury. Now that the Tempest is out you should see the cost of the Expert and Extreme drop.
Just my 2 cents worth

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09-07-2003 05:32 PM  14 years agoPost 19
Rev600ho

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Flyboynellor,

Thanks for your input-- BUT;
People who have built and flown M/A helis realize the unbelievable craftsmanship that goes into these machines. Personally I enjoy building them as much as flying them. They are worth a little extra money in my book, they just feel like they are on rails when you fly them---even after years of flying!!!

Bottom line is you get what you pay for, I would agree that they are not for everyone, the Raptor, Freya, and some others are much simpler machines but in the long run I think you are better off with the M/A.

My opinion only!!

I have built Excell 30's in the past and I have just started to build my new Fury Expert and WOW!! I am surprised again by the quality of these kits. I can't wait to fire it up and fly!!!


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09-08-2003 12:04 AM  14 years agoPost 20
JimmyY2KWS6

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flyboynellor,

You get what you pay for. It is like saying why buy a $100K BMW when you can get a Grand Am for a fraction of the price. Each one is intended for different type of people. I personally love M/A helis and have no problems paying extra for quality but that is just my opinion.

Jimmy

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