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09-04-2003 01:19 AM  14 years agoPost 1
RayJayJohnsonJr

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Want to get me another heli (doesn't everybody?). Was talking with some guys this weekend who said to hold off 'till spring when the new JR Vigor CX comes out. Anyone else know about this?? Details???

Thanks!!!!

-Mark

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

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09-04-2003 01:40 AM  14 years agoPost 2
estevens

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Back in March, I was speaking with a JR rep who indicated that the Vigor was being redesigned to compete more directly with the Fury. I believe this would mean shaving some weight and dropping the price to start.

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09-04-2003 04:33 AM  14 years agoPost 3
riprocop

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Vigor CS?

would that mean the Vigor CS will be cheaper when the new line comes out? I have 2 second hand Vigor's now and would buy a new CS if JR drop their prices.

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09-04-2003 01:46 PM  14 years agoPost 4
Tom Carne

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There are plenty of rumours floating around and all of them point at a new Vigor of some kind. I think its clear to everyone that the Fury's are wooping JR and they need to address this market niche. I personally believe that most of the changes will be in the rotor head department. The Vigor rotorhead has recieved a lot of criticsm over the years. Overall thoug I like the model and it has very sound design principles worked into the model.

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09-05-2003 05:00 AM  14 years agoPost 5
Airman98

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Hope you are correct about next spring I will be ready for a 90 size by then and the VigorCX would be at the top of my list.
Tim

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09-09-2003 02:42 PM  14 years agoPost 6
wolfdad

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Vigor CS Redux

Since Curtis finished down from the top this year and, having watched the price drop on Vigor CS', I seriously believe JR will come out with something more competitive in the 3D world very soon. I also suspect that, if they want to keep Youngblood flying for them, they will do a total redesign and not a makeover, strictly for the 90 size engines, incorporating a number of Curtis' innovations. Personally, I am a Vigor nut, but, in the same breath, I have to admit that the Fury is one helluva' challenger, if not the better of the two aircraft. The current potential for the Vigor CS, although well beyond my capabilities, is due for a complete redesign with both lower weight and price. Blades, engines and fuel system components have out-paced the Vigor in technology insertion and I think the Vigor airframe is about at its limit for the serious, nimble-thumbed 3D artist.

Another interesting fact was the complete drought on Vigor kits about two to three months ago. For some reason, the availability, with the exception of a couple of retailers who had good stock levels, on the Vigor CS completely went away. That was at about the same time that the price started coming down and combos with the Vigor CS and OS-90 could be ordered for $1100 and change. Maybe the combos and price drop were just the ticket to get folks to buy, however even Horizon was out.

I have 4 Vigors at this point and my favorite combination is the Vigor CS with the belt drive tail rotor. I really hope the Vigor, as a model, stays around because, from my standpoint, it is a solid aircraft. Having come back into the hobby at a late stage, I seriously doubt that I will ever get into heavy 3D flight, however the wide range of size and handling characteristics, and the availability of a wide range of upgrades make it pleasing for my aging eyes and "not-so-nimble" anymore thumbs. Since I enjoy building almost as much as I do flying, I also like the ability to customize the aircraft to my own abilities with after-market upgrades.

One last thought on, what I think will become a true classic in R/C helicopter history, the Vigor properly set up makes an outstanding beginner's aircraft, especially for us'n folks with advancing CSS (can't see stuff). My first aircraft and the one that I will also always remain very fond of is the Voyager 50, however flying the Vigor is so much more easy, specifically because of he size difference. Somewhat pricey for a starter aircraft, the Vigor set up with a limited pitch range and soften handling characteristics is a stable, forgiving beginner's platform. I realize that the 30's and 50's are cheaper to do damage control on and that's fine for those who can see them and maintain orientation at altitude, however when you can't tell for sure whether the aircraft is coming or going, until it impacts terra firma, then nothing is cheap.

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09-10-2003 02:09 AM  14 years agoPost 7
Tom Carne

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Agree with your post. The Vigor has some very good design features and the CS was just a bit better. The single side frames and 140 ECCPM were class leaders. It is unfortunate that none of the other manufacturers have incorporated 140. I think the criticism of the rotor head is justified and this definately needs work. All that binding and additional dremmel work is ridiculous. Yes it could loose weight in some areas as well. The tail with the metal upgrade is excellent and should be part of a new kit. I am not fond of the extremely long pushrod either. If you ever want to rip the boom of and pack it in a box you have to contend with this long wire poking out. Skids are a bit crappy, pity someone doesn't follow Robbe's example. Overall I think it is a very good model but find the pricing wrong as the X-Cell machines include a lot more CNC metal parts and sell for a lower price. Also the model (Extreme) is actually built for 90 engines. I know the Vigor is a 60 design but it is being marketed as a 90 also. Oh, one final gripe is the one way start system. Its real crappy, enough said.

No rain on flying days:)

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