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01-27-2012 08:42 PM  6 years agoPost 41
flybabyfly

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RC HELI"S CAUSE WEIGHT GAIN??

Wow,nice job! I lost 60 pounds last year in a little less than 4 months. Then gained it all back IN only 3 months!! I've been feeling nothin but DEFEAT & DISAPOINTMENT lately.

Your pics gives me some much needed inspiration!
I'm thinking instead of learning how to fly these super sweet rc helicopters with my bf,I will now be doing some power walking around field while he flies heli's and gets fat! Heehee!

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No wonder why I NEVER see any female RC/Heli pilots on here. BECAUSE HELI'S CAUSE WEIGHT GAIN!!! Good to know,thanks.

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01-27-2012 09:15 PM  6 years agoPost 42
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I 100% agree kirk. People definitely do not dedicate enough time to themselves and more time into material things. But just cause they can't do it doesn't mean others can't either. I can enjoy many hobbies and still eat as healthy as I can and keep my body moving.

Working out and being in shape is not full time job. I go for a 30 min run about 3 times a week and about 3-4 times a week, 30-45 min workouts, its less than 4 hours a week, but I keep muscle tone and my overall physical fitness level up. I alternate between weights and stamina strength.

4-6 hours a week is hardly enough to keep one from having hobbies and other things in their life. Just saying, its not hard, its like breathing for me, just one of those things I do to stay alive.

Any more hours than that a week to me is just overkill. The body takes a long time to heal and you simply can't overdo it. My example to people who like to overtrain is say if you cut your skin (example of breaking down muscle), you can't take supplements or anything to speed up the healing process to anything less than at least a week and even then it isn't 100% healed.

So, rest is your friend especially with building muscle, so what can you do in that rest time besides spending time with family and working??? Helis!

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01-27-2012 10:43 PM  6 years agoPost 43
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You don't get the results Dave has gotten with the routine you just described. It takes a lot of hard work. I am almost certain Dave is also keeping a close eye on his diet. In conjunction what he has accomplished is pretty impressive.
With a full time job and family you do not have much time left to exercise at that level and fly helicopters on the regular bases. Our hobby is time consuming. I am not saying they are incompatible but keeping both is rather difficult if you want to get Dave's results. You just need to look around at your flying field, how many Dave’s you see flying regularly?


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01-28-2012 01:03 AM  6 years agoPost 44
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Since this thread started I cant seem to understand how doing weights has anything to do with not flying helis.

The only thing that has anything to do with flying helis or going to the gym is work commitments, if you do 12 hours a day 6 - 7 days a week you cant go to the gym or fly helis, you cant do anything but eat, sleep and work.

Thats the issue here, why we now live in a world that where expected to work 12-13 hour shifts 6 - 7 days a week just so we can have a house, car and a large plasma tv that we can never watch.

Where like slaves with lots of money we cant spend, wealthy slaves.

What ever happened to good old union values and the 8 hour day? 8 hours work, 8 hours sleep, 8 hours of recreation? These days even the notion of takeing a 30 minute lunch break is starting to become taboo, so much as stop work to go take a dump and your branded a bludger by all these young dickheads these days.

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01-28-2012 01:18 AM  6 years agoPost 45
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Just had a thought: Olympic victorian Bruce Jenner flies heli's,right? Bruce Jenner is the face of fitness! Hmmm.. Is it possible to be PHYSICALLY FIT AND PERSUE MY RC/HELI PILOT DREAM? I can't see why not! Welp,back to reading up on heli's..

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01-28-2012 01:46 AM  6 years agoPost 46
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I agree with you, one can actually do weights and fly helicopters. Now, accomplishing what Dave has done and still flying heli's regularly, with family and a job that requires 40 plus hrs/week, is a complete different ball game.
As you mentioned, having a very demanding job is not uncommon these days. Therefore, one should make a wise decision on how to use it. Needless to say, priorities are different from individual to individual. It is clear to me Dave has decided to spend his valuable time exercising rather than flying helis. Good for him, his hard work has paid off.
Keep it up Dave!


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01-28-2012 03:08 AM  6 years agoPost 47
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Interesting I have seen so many people transform themselves on that type of routine of 4-10 hours of dedication weekly. The key is intensity when you workout and proper nutrition during recovery which is the real key/secret.

I wonder if you have ever heard that you grow out of the gym. So spending more time on the gym will do no more good and you can easily run the risk of overtraining and going backwards or injuring yourself. But u can believe what you want although you are going against all conventional wisdom and scientific fact of time to recover properly to be able to give full intensity to each workout.

Also, if you ask different bodybuilders in the gym what their routine is, all of them will have taken a different path to achieve their current physical fitness level. There is no one set path to achieve good physical fitness.

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01-28-2012 02:49 PM  6 years agoPost 48
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We have created our current work ethic of longer days, no lunchs no breaks etc...... Everything that is wanted by society is wanted now or sooner....nobody can be happy with waiting for something anymore. This creates competition among industries to be the quickest. This mentality only lines the pockets of the people at the top while the pawns suffer.
I have been in the insurance industry for 12 years now and it use to be , "Hi Mr. Customer, we will be taking care of your claim within a week" Now its, "Hi Mr. Customer, you just had an accident,our adjuster will be there in a few hours to inspect your vehicle"..Mr customer's reply, "What!?? few hours?? I need it done now!!. If not, I will find an insurance company that will get it done sooner!"
This is some of the real conversations I get these days.
There goes my lunch break

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01-28-2012 06:47 PM  6 years agoPost 49
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wow, thanks all for your encouraging comments, it really helps a lot keep the motivation levels high!

Also there is some really great discussion going on in here.
I would like to add my 5 cents worth as well, since I have received a few PM's about what I did to get where I am now.

This is all my opinion and what has worked for me, this may or may not work for you and my opinion may be different from your as there is a million ways to skin a cat. That said, if your opinion is different from mine, yours is wrong (nosrs)

I saw the biggest change in the first 8 months, I slowly removed bad stuff from my diet (maybe one big item a week) like red bull, soda, white bread, chocolate, candy, pizza etc and replaced it with something "healthier" Daves killer bread, salad, sugar free soda or energy drink. This is an on going effort, bad **** keeps creeping back in slowly over time (especially when bulking) and I have to reevaluate and adjust.
I believe diet makes up at least 80% of your transformation and you can't out work a bad diet. You must be willing to change your mindset from a eat for enjoyment to eat for life type thing.

On a side note, I also have found out that the hardest thing is in the transition, it doesn't last for long (maybe about 2-6 weeks) changing your diet, going to the gym, changing jobs, changing the type of peanut butter you eat. It is hard in the beginning but your mind and body get use to the new routine and it becomes the new normal.

I started working out primarily doing cardio and started slowly with low intensity and slowly started to ramp it up both in duration and intensity. After about a month I was leaving a lot of sweet on the gym floor. I then slowly started to go into the free weight area of the gym and watched what others were going. When I started bench pressing I couldn't get 10 reps on a 95lb bar. Now I can rep out 275lb, love being strong (not stronger, I am not in competition with anyone, just strong for me).

I started asking questions and was surprised that most people seemed really happy to talk and share their knowledge so I learnt how to lift then I read books like "Starting Strength" and Arnold's Encyclopedia etc" found bodybuilding.com and traineo.com both fitness related runryder clones check me out if you ever sign up on either "kiwidave", you can also check out other progress photos I took during this process.

So within about 8 months I went from 280lb to 175lb and was quite lean but I felt too small especially after being big so after about 5 months of maintaining I went on a bulk to add muscle and added a lot of fat too, I dirty bulked. Then had to cut again, still too small and have been clean bulking again adding about 1lb a month of lean muscle. Now I am about 210lb and have been slowly cutting for about a month and will continue down until I am happy with my body fat levels and then likely will bulk again.

So anyway what I am trying to say is I cycle my diet to cut and bulk and don't try to do both at the same time.

I do something every day and it is normally from an hour to 2 hours depending on what my goals are. I can not do helis because I crash too much (when doing 3D) and tracking down vibrations on my AP ship so I always have a ton of bench work to do. I just don't have the time to do both.

I agree 100% with intensity being a key to transformation but I wouldn't suggest starting out like that, work into it if you enjoy it. What ever you do, make sure you enjoy it, cos if you don't you will not be doing it long, just know that again, the transition is always going to suck a little bit, work through that and you will likely find you enjoy it.

I personally am not a fan of the P90X, Cross Fit type workout, great for fat loss and your muscles will get as big as they have been at some point in your life but you will unlikely (or very limited) to add new muscle fiber with this type of workout.
Big believer in lift heavy, work in the 2-6 rep range for strength, 7-12 for size, 12-30 for endurance. either way lift to failure. grunt and grind it out. If it isn't hard your not making your body work at changing itself, it doesn't want to change, kick it in the balls and make it change.

I am solely doing this for looks and health and don't really care how much I can lift or being competitive with my lifting, I just want to look good and be healthy but that said, I do enjoy lifting heavy stuff up and putting it back down again.

^^ ramblings of a crazy man but I hope someone finds this information helpful.

What really helped me get started was the internal realization that my weight problem was not going to fix it self and was only going to get worse if I didn't change something.

Tabb told me, and this really resonated with me, that yes, it's going to suck and be hard to do something about it but it isn't going to be any easier later and in fact it will be much easy now at 280lb than if I put it off and have to deal with it at 300lb or 350lb or 400lb...

Stay thirsty my friends.

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01-28-2012 07:10 PM  6 years agoPost 50
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great job on going from large to not just fit, but cut well.

Im 48 and ran 8 miles last night, bench and curl for endurance, all to help with my motorcycle riding. Ran 19 miles this week and im ramping up for a half marathon in spring.

No where near as cut as you are, But I still go out and fly my heli's. Having 5 birds set up perfectly, all ive had to do in the last 18 months is either charge and fly, and or gas and fly.

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01-29-2012 12:43 AM  6 years agoPost 51
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It all comes down to life circumstances and thats the problem with weight training, if your life circumstances change, all of a sudden your limited to 1* 15 minute break and 1 * 30 minute lunch break your effectively screwed, within 6 months your back to where you started 3 - 5 years ago.

The other thing its not about being healthy, its about ramming as much food into your mouth as you possibly can in a 24 hour period, then lifting massive amounts of weight every 2 - 3 days so you can look as big as possible.

Eventually you will fail, all it takes is a slight injury that prevents you from benching or pressing for a couple of months, the onset of tension headaches can stop you dead in your tracks or a change in life circumstances.

I think with weight training the key is to be able to to lose it all and then start all over again right from the start, thats the way I see it, Ive had to start all over again 3 times already in my life, now Im 40 and Im going to have to start all over again once more.

Im not trying to be negative, I know right now everythings all sunshine and lolly pops, but Ive found the hardest thing about this stuff is the pshycology that comes into play when you lose everything and have to start all over again.

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01-29-2012 01:22 AM  6 years agoPost 52
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I found it very helpful!! And basically what you are saying is.. 1)Eat to live,don't live to eat.2)Take at least 1 hour out of your day to exercise.3) Watch your starches. 4)If you do all that and still have the time AND money to fly heli's... then get your fly on??

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01-30-2012 05:50 PM  6 years agoPost 53
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I am fortunate that my job gives me most of my exercise. You wouldn't think doing pest and weed control would be that active but the kind of work I do is very active. I essentially spend all day climbing, crawling, dragging, pulling and lifting something. The houses I do are large, usually have a lot of stairs inside and out. If I am at a house for an hour, I have spent a good 20+ minutes at target heart rate. I do 10 to 12 houses a day.

Then there is the weed control. The lawns I do are up to 3+ acres so you can imagine pushing a spreader with 100 pounds of fertilizer to do a lawn like that and then drag a hose full of liquid and spray it. It takes me about 20-30 minutes per acre and it's a workout like nothing you ever get at a gym (and I have done it all at a gym at some point in my life). My average work day is 12 to 14 hours but sometimes I squeak in a nice short 10 hour day. On the weekends I fly and mountain bike and I am in good shape during the killing season. Not perfect or awesome like Kiwi but good and strong.

Then winter hits. Nothing to kill so I plow snow commercially. Guess what you do in a plow truck. You sit. You get up at 3 in the morning and plow until noon. You end up eating whatever you can find and it usually involves a drive through. Every winter I gain about 20 pounds and have to lose it the nest summer. I want to try to stay active and eat well in the winter but the snow plowing makes it very difficult. Your sleep cycle is disrupted, which causes poor eating, which causes fat. It's hard to set up a good excercise regimen for that kind of situation. I have done a little better this season as I am eating different, but eating alone doesn't get you there is you aren't working your body. If it wasn't for winter I would stay in great shape and be paid to do it.

Best shape I was ever in was after police academy when I thought I wanted to be a cop. I left that place at 200 pounds of ass kicking awesome. I want to get back to that. I did it by using the gym, the pool and running every single day. I just need to change what I am doing in the winter.

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02-01-2012 04:24 AM  6 years agoPost 54
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Well my story is a bit different in that I started training Brazilian Jiu jitsu. I started off with the attitude that I just wanted to get into shape and eat better. I am at the gym training 4-5 days a week sometimes 2x a day. You are always thinking of ways to get better and be able to train harder. Heli's def took a bit of the back burner for me. They are both going to stay with me for a long time to come. I think that I am lucky cause I found a workout that is fun for me.

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02-04-2012 01:36 AM  6 years agoPost 55
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Think the main problem for me is Ive tried to keep in shape for the last 10 years or so, but the last 2 years my job has prevented me from doing so.

Just started this new job two weeks ago truck driveing and the first week was 12 - 14 hours, this week three days 15 - 16 hours and the last 2 days 14 hours, with 1 hour drive time each way Its 17 - 18 hours out of a 24 hour day, down to 4 - 5 hours sleep, hopeing I can get it down to 12 hour days 5 days a week once I know the job better.

Just quit another job that was 12 hr days 15 days on and 6 days off hopeing for less hours so I could get healthy again, thought this job was going to be 8 hrs a day with a bit of over time each week, atleast thats what I was hopeing for.

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10-17-2012 01:18 PM  5 years agoPost 56
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Where are you now? Have you kept at it, found a balance or back to old habits? I know it's hard to stay devoted to fitness especially if people In your life don't share the same interests.

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