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10-06-2010 06:23 PM  7 years agoPost 1
helixangle

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Can anyone tell me the difference between V Bar 5 and Beast X other than the obvious.

I'm on the fence leaning towards V-Bar but would love to hear anything from anyone who has flown both, on there own machines and have spent some time with both.

Thanks -- j

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10-06-2010 08:28 PM  7 years agoPost 2
Turkana

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Beastx is cheaper and does not supply small sat recievers to date and does not have a log feature or gouvenor. In the future you will be able to do some adjusting special parameters on the Pc and it will be able to handle multiblade heads. That's all for what I know. Bouth fly really well. The beastx works great from tiny 250 s to big Nitros that I can say from own experience.

I found it easier to set up the beast nut I guess if I work a bit more with the v bar it will be the same.

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10-06-2010 08:32 PM  7 years agoPost 3
knightofcarnage

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I can't comment on the Beast X, but i can say the V bar 5.0 is great. I have/had 3G , skookum 720 and mini Vbar 5.0 blue line. And the V-bar so far is flawless. I'm a little sceptical of the BeastX, seem to much hype is following it. But that just my gut feeling. Right now i'm itching for the full version of the 5.0 Vbar to come out.

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10-06-2010 09:36 PM  7 years agoPost 4
helixangle

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Thanks, you both have good arguments. I'd have to say I'll be waiting on the vbar

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10-06-2010 10:54 PM  7 years agoPost 5
jyzoom

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BeastX

I have VBAR for a long time....most recently since V4 on the old miniV to latest MiniV V5 Pro....I ever think that anything would be better. Got the SK720..it is better then V4, but V5 beats it in term of simple configure and flying characteristic. SK720 logging is fun, but after some time you don;t use it and the auto-recovering need really the telemetry module to make it practical usage from my view.

But all this change when I couldn't resist testing an BeastX on my Mini Titan V2....since then I sold off all my SK720 and Mini VBAR Blue V5 Pro and both my FBL is now on BeastX.

Cheaper, love the flying characteristic, and easy setup without pc is great and dead on on default setting. With upcoming sat and pc programming...it will be bonus. The Sat is what I want, the pc programming to me is really bonus as it is flying very well now.
Multi blade support would means the pc programming will allow offset setting...this will make BeastX a even better Killer FBL electronic as I know a lot of scale flyer in my patch is just waiting of offset feature to jump into BeastX.

Note: I sold my SK720 and VBAR at a very goo dbargin price....yet I could get 3 BeastX + the external receiver for 2 of my helis.

Jonathan

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10-06-2010 11:41 PM  7 years agoPost 6
OICU812

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Depends what you want, constant improvement and fantastic support exists in Vbar. As mentioned with Vbar you do not need a seperate rx running Spektrum, only the satts. As well on board logging for trouble shooting, super simple setup, and future soon added governor for both electric and nitro to. The unit will be good for a long time and many new updates which will raise that bar even higher soon.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-07-2010 01:30 AM  7 years agoPost 7
Turkana

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Guys be careful not to praise the beastx to much you may be reps!! Lmao

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10-07-2010 02:07 AM  7 years agoPost 8
tgo

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Won't buy V-BAR until it's price is close to Beast X. At almost double price, I can easily got a completely new FBL system one or two years later. For VBAR, you have to pay for major firmware upgrade but no hardware improvement.

Also, VBAR's pricing really make me unhappy. If you have a look of Readyheli, the price for new VBAR 5.0 Full Size is cheaper than my Mini Vbar 5.0 Express + Pro software upgrade! Looks like they are facing more pressure from other FBL system manufacturer. They may drop their price later.

TGO

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10-07-2010 02:16 AM  7 years agoPost 9
punkin71

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I am an fbl noob, but so far the beastx is working out very well for me. As far as I am concerned no firmware updates are required as it flies very flybar-like but very stable at the same time.

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10-07-2010 03:41 AM  7 years agoPost 10
Turkana

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There was only one update from the very first versions, becasue tail sens was not high enough sometimes and it could loose all its calibration but the new batches work fine, they corrected that really quickly. I am talking about the beast x. The V bar5 lso just works, just diffrently, hard to explain, you have to fly bouth to not see but actually feel it.

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10-07-2010 06:25 AM  7 years agoPost 11
OICU812

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Guys be careful not to praise the beastx to much you may be reps!! Lmao
Im a rep for Mikado openly and most know this anyhow it's not a big deal, but I've also tested and flown pretty much all of what has come on market since the first silver Vbars 3 years+ ago. I also maintain honest opinions and will also admidt to any shortfalls and work to have improvement as well. I'd say Beast for the money is decent I'd say it is better for sure then 3G, however IMO it "still" is not vbar in many ways. In how it handles in piro maneuvers to the quality feel of the tail, as well the obvious differences mentioned. Again depends what you want and what you are looking for according to your own abilities, I don't critisize to often at the field when someone has a different system, in fact recently I have helped more then a few set their BeastX, TTLG and a 3G recently to the best they could for their machine, I always however offer them the chance to fly Vbar where 95%+ of the time the difference is seen and felt even by the noobs to the hobby. Turkana, why did you say that anyhow?, are you a rep for Beast or something?

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10-07-2010 06:32 AM  7 years agoPost 12
BlueGarry1

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I cant really speak about the V-Bar as I've never flown a heli fitted with one, but from what I've seen of other pilots who have one, they do take a little setting up to get them just how you like them.
I have a beastX fitted to my T-Rex 500 and also my Vibe 50, and the set-up was a breeze, no adjustment needed, it just works perfectly and their customer support is first class.

At my own club there are BeastX units fitted on Srimok,s, T-Rex 700's
Aurora's and Vibe 90's to name a few and all work really well.

Hope this helps

Garry

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10-07-2010 11:54 AM  7 years agoPost 13
TRex888

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First off, I'm not an ace pilot, just learning inverted circuits right now and no fancy piro moves in my flying.

I installed a Beastx on my T450 Pro around 40 flights ago after some good reports from friends. Price difference between vbar and the Beastx was not a major consideration, but rather the ease of adoption was more important for me. Now that I have taken the FBL step I can say the Beastx helped into making that step easy and painless. And if I ever grow out of it's capabilities I might shop around for what is better then.

But for now I think unless you are very advanced in your flying skills the Beastx is hard to beat in terms of price, performance and ease of use. In fact I think it is so easy to set up and low priced I would advise people to forget gyros like Spartan (which I had) and go straight to Beastx. It even makes sense for an absolute beginners as the hands free hovering ability of this thing is unreal, and if you crash the cost and time in repairs will be much lower (bar stripping cyclic servo gears).

My 2 cents and personal experience.

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10-07-2010 12:47 PM  7 years agoPost 14
Ronald Thomas

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I have a beastX fitted to my T-Rex 500 and also my Vibe 50, and the set-up was a breeze, no adjustment needed, it just works perfectly and their customer support is first class.
I see these quotes all the time so it must be at least a good flyer.

I personally have never flown or seen a BeastX up close, I have flown VBAR, 3G, and Gyrobot. The VBAR wins hands down. As far as the PC interface goes....who here flies RC helis and does NOT have a computer? Adjustments are maybe 1 or 2 trips back and it has all the extras the Beast X does not have. Then you add in the support and it is a clear winner IMO. I wonder if the BEast will retain the low price when the sat support/ S-Bus/governor/logging is added.........Ron

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10-07-2010 12:58 PM  7 years agoPost 15
helixangle

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Thanks Ron...

Seems a lot of people like the beast X but have trouble articulating why, the few posts from V bar fans seems to cinch it for me. I'll wait for the V Bar

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10-07-2010 01:22 PM  7 years agoPost 16
Steff Giguere

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I have a beastX fitted to my T-Rex 500 and also my Vibe 50, and the set-up was a breeze, no adjustment needed, it just works perfectly and their customer support is first class.
I find it funny when I read these comments, I set up my V-Bar on the bench then take my heli to the field and just fly, by the way I now have 5 V-Bared machines. Only one my T-REX 450 mini V-Bar did I need to adjust the tail gain. The rest just flew perfectly on at the field adjustments needed. Tried the 3G and I did have to reset parameters a few times on my 450, never was able to lift off with the 3G in my T-REX 500.

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