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10-05-2010 05:56 AM  7 years agoPost 1
spectrapilot

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Brisbane , Australia

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Does anyone make adjustments to their D/R and or expo setting when doing autos? I have seen a few guys having big problems with their FBL helis when the headspeed decays and the stick imputs become hyper-sensitive. With my FB helis I can bleed the last little bit of energy out of the blades no problem, but it seems with FBL you have to get it on the ground quick before headspeed drops off. Would a lower D/R on cyclic solve the hyper-sensitivity problem, or higher expo?? I have not tried an auto on my Logo yet, once the ESC shuts down I will be committed, but not knowing how the cyclic will react has me a bit apprehensive,

cheers Kev

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10-05-2010 06:04 AM  7 years agoPost 2
OICU812

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Edson, Alberta,​Canada

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Nothing to worry about, just practice your short shots as you would on FB. It is in many ways IMO easier or better to auto with, no adjustments or anything special at all to adjust in tx or software persay.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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10-05-2010 06:16 AM  7 years agoPost 3
Al Austria

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The cyclic doesn't become anymore sensitive during an auto than it is in flight on a FBL machine.

If you're used to the way a flybarred machine autos, then you are actually just used to the cyclic becoming LESS sensitive at the bottom of the auto. An electronic flybarless system will try to regulate cyclic rates regardless of headspeed, and as a result, your cyclic's response will not change unless you stall the blades.

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10-05-2010 06:36 AM  7 years agoPost 4
dahld

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Bakersfield, CA, USA

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My experiences has been that the V-Bar does "feel" a little different at the bottom as head speed decays. But it's nothing in my opinion that requires a "special" set-up to deal with. It's just a slight adjustment on how much stick to input for any given amount of correction you're trying to get.

Just start from hovers at first, then short ones from a little higher that hardly even require any negative pitch on the way down. In each case, practice draining the head speed off as much as possible during the last foot or so of altitude, to learn what the new "feel" will be with low head speeds. Then just like when you were learning them with a FB'd heli, move them up a little at a time. By then you'll have learned the new "feel" at the bottom, and full down autos won't be a problem at all.

You actually have more control at lower head speeds with the V-Bar. Don't be afraid of it, just take a little time to learn it, and you'll end-up loving it (-:

(edit): What Al said above is why it "feels" different.

(-: dave

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10-05-2010 10:10 PM  7 years agoPost 5
helicraze

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Victoria - Australia

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I actually prefer an auto with vbar, i find it very natural, just be careful at the very bottom

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10-06-2010 04:30 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Blades345

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FL

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I enjoy autos with my Vbar, but it is just as sensitive at the low end of the HS, as it is at the high end. You can make a bank setting, so that when you hit your hold switch, it will go to the bank setting, which you would make it less sensitive around center stick, if thats what you want.

When u don't feel like soaring through the air with a plane, beat it into submission w/ a heli!

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10-06-2010 06:04 AM  7 years agoPost 7
Terrabit

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Seattle, WA - USA

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I think it's easier with fbl - especially with smaler helis. The added hang time allows more flair at the bottom.

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10-07-2010 03:27 AM  7 years agoPost 8
Razz

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Louisville, KY

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I'm currently using a Total G in a Trex 700, I am using a DX8, so I program 70% DR and 15% EXPO when throttle Hold is selected. For me this reduces the control quickness just perfect for autos, as My set-up is pretty quick for 3D.

I will be test flying a new MA Furion 6 FBL tomorrow with a mini vbar pro...can't wait to compare to TG.

Brian Rasmussen
Louisville, KY

DX8, Ballistic FSO, Gaui X5, Warp 360, Vbar

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10-07-2010 01:07 PM  7 years agoPost 9
spectrapilot

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Brisbane , Australia

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Thanks for the comments guys, I will try a few low level autos first and see how the heli responds. Awesome vid Shawn, how many crashs before you got those inverted autos right? Nice to see how stable the heli is though and still has lots of headspeed for the roll out,cheers

Kev

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10-17-2010 02:01 AM  7 years agoPost 10
Zaaaguy72

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MN

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I have a total G, you'll be getting rid of it and getting another Vbar!

Team Sanjel!

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