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12-12-2011 08:25 PM  5 years agoPost 9901
synodontis

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Book Buried in the Debris of the Centuries In Which Wise Men Still Seek Him
and next to it they found an ancient example of a clicker!!

well, Thomas, are you going to answer the question or not?

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12-12-2011 09:39 PM  5 years agoPost 9902
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Here is the same commentary you posted with different emphasis. What you think is a commentary agreeing with your view of the literal, actually isn't

Here is a commentary that agrees with the literal interpretation:

Ezekiel 37
[Ezekiel 37:1] THE HAND OF THE LORD WAS UPON ME, AND CARRIED ME OUT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE LORD, AND SET ME DOWN IN THE MIDST OF THE VALLEY WHICH WAS FULL OF BONES,

[Ezekiel 37:2] AND CAUSED ME TO PASS BY THEM ROUND ABOUT: AND, BEHOLD, THERE WERE VERY MANY IN THE OPEN VALLEY; AND, LO, THEY WERE VERY DRY.

[Ezekiel 37:3] AND HE SAID UNTO ME, SON OF MAN, CAN THESE BONES LIVE" AND I ANSWERED, O LORD GOD, THOU KNOWEST.

God can do anything. At the end of time there will be a resurrection of the dead. Nevertheless the main point of our chapter on one level is not to teach us about resurrection about rather about the possibility of reviving both Judah and Joseph and their companions from the other tribes so that they re-unite. On another level the chapter can even be seen as talking about two separate events not necessarily connected in time or place. On one hand we have the principle that in the End of days at some point there will be a resurrection of the dead. In addition we have another (not necessarily connected) principle that Judah and Joseph will re-unite. Scripture is deliberately built in such a way as to be pertinent at several levels at one and the same time.

I do believe we have already covered what resurrection actually is in previous posts right?

To your question
But let's go with your idea first, and say that because it's a vision, it's not to be taken literally. Does this mean that there is no truth whatsoever in it?
Just because it is a vision, does not mean that what is written has no truth. It just means it doesn't have the truth you are trying to pull out of it. The vision was used to DEMONSTRATE God's power through something the person having the vision could understand.
If not, how do you decide which parts are literally true, and which parts are not?
You spend allot of time in study and prayer. To me it was pretty obvious that this passage was a vision.

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12-12-2011 10:38 PM  5 years agoPost 9903
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Here is the same commentary you posted with different emphasis. What you think is a commentary agreeing with your view of the literal, actually isn't
Only when you cherry pick words.
Nevertheless the main point of our chapter on one level is not to teach us about resurrection about rather about the possibility of reviving both Judah and Joseph and their companions from the other tribes so that they re-unite
Yes, that may well be the main point, but the fact that there is a main point implies that there is another point. And it's quite clear as to what that point is:
At the end of time there will be a resurrection of the dead
The vision was used to DEMONSTRATE God's power through something the person having the vision could understand.
That's not what it says. You could say the same for the creation story or the Noah's ark story, for example. You either take the Bible literally, or you don't.
You spend allot of time in study and prayer.
To me it was pretty obvious that this passage was a vision.
That's not the issue, so for argument's sake let's agree that it's a vision. What is it a vision of? It's a vision of the dead being resurrected, of course.
Ezekiel 37
7 So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone. 8 I looked, and tendons and flesh appeared on them and skin covered them, but there was no breath in them.

9 Then he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath; prophesy, son of man, and say to it, ‘This is what the Sovereign LORD says: Come, breath, from the four winds and breathe into these slain, that they may live.’” 10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and breath entered them; they came to life and stood up on their feet—a vast army.
Where do you think the Jewish belief in resurrection comes from, if not the Torah?

13 Principles of Faith

G-d exists
G-d is one and unique
G-d is incorporeal
G-d is eternal
Prayer is to be directed to G-d alone and to no other
The words of the prophets are true
Moses' prophecies are true, and Moses was the greatest of the prophets
The Written Torah (first 5 books of the Bible) and Oral Torah (teachings now contained in the Talmud and other writings) were given to Moses
There will be no other Torah
G-d knows the thoughts and deeds of men
G-d will reward the good and punish the wicked
The Messiah will come
The dead will be resurrected

http://www.jewfaq.org/beliefs.htm

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12-12-2011 11:55 PM  5 years agoPost 9904
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the above is a very good example of how squirrels are clicker trained.

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12-13-2011 12:48 AM  5 years agoPost 9905
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synodontis
the above is a very example of how squirrels are clicker trained.
You shouldn't talk about dusty that way

Dusty I was raised to believe it to be true and my life long study has proved my belief correct.

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12-13-2011 01:09 AM  5 years agoPost 9906
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You shouldn't talk about dusty that way
trust a clueless panda to get the wrong end of the stick.

or in his case, bamboo shoot.

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12-13-2011 03:53 AM  5 years agoPost 9907
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Dusty :

Still trying to understand the center of your point to your own personal vague determination of the scripture.??

IS IT A QUESTION ??

!st It was not a vision / then It finally became a vision -- after your weak study to understand the original translation. Took a lot of work just to get you their. You STILL shadowing the writing

Why always try to paint the WORD from a different perspective to gain a alternative view point. It's still the exactly same - just your view.

What is It you ARE trying to CONFIRM ?? Several places too examine through out both O.T. and N.T. if you know the Linage of the script's and time it was written.

Maybe Abrahmic or Davidic Split - Maybe the Rise of Islam ??

Maybe Beginning of the New Covenant ? as out lined in detail in the OLD Covenant as commanded. The WORD TO ABANDON the Old Covenant ! in the Old Covenant.

That's been determined by 1000's of Scholar's prior to your walk for hundred's of year's ? So why the continual Ponder ? where others have been prior ?

Seems you are steering towards a physical reality based upon Centuries of Lost Jewish Souls rising up.

You definitely understand and confirm the fulfillment of past prophecy.

You may find what you are looking for in the book of Daniel : / I can assure you it is a very deep exhausting study to grasp & begin to understand. You will how ever need to fully understand the writing's of the others and how they weave a tapestry and their relationship.

What is it you seek ?

#'s
Location ?
Timming??

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12-13-2011 04:23 AM  5 years agoPost 9908
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Our dear old friend dusty is a guy who will question the simple equation of 2+2 = 4 to the point of exhaustion, frustration, and pointlessness.

Thats his point.

Thus: pointlessness.

There is no answer to that type of questioning analysis.

It simply leads to stupidity and should be ignored for the childishness it truly is.

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12-13-2011 05:02 AM  5 years agoPost 9909
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Maybe Abrahmic or Davidic Split -
abraham, a creation of the 5th and 6th century

he has absolutely no historicity

david very very little but none as written.

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12-13-2011 05:04 AM  5 years agoPost 9910
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Absolutley true But :

Their IS a definite Purpose and Direction to the Continual Gaming.

Doesn't matter one tittle - just seem's it could be a lot easier then too shift around relentlessly from all avenues.

The Yes's should be Yes's and the No's should be No's : Just that say's a lot about the individual's motive's.

Direction / Purpose / Motive :

Weigh / Measure any Benefit : To a Non - Saved

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12-13-2011 05:35 AM  5 years agoPost 9911
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To the : House and Tribe of the Mosseyerite's / among the valley of Ferhoodelville : { Poop House Prophet }

Verily : WHen you do not have any clue / nor inkclage or any knowledge about the Davidic nor the Abrahamic Lineages -

Two of only several - { Yes: was written - and warned }- and many prophesies were fulfilled / some continue = See the Holy Land's

Safest Thing : Stand with Mouth Open to Breath / Look Stupid or even Stupider/ place hand's in your pockets / look at your feet and maybe shuffle & try to blend in - maybe you will not be noticed. May even tie them in front of those watching as a sign of some thing..

Also best if you start shaving the hair between your eye's and may be a little make up will help them look equally placed.

You really need to get away from Wikimedia and find a GOOD study Bible:

Knew their was Stupid, Dumb and DUmber, not a word for that --- except maybe a peppermint snow flake.

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12-13-2011 09:33 AM  5 years agoPost 9912
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Our dear old friend dusty is a guy who will question the simple equation of 2+2 = 4 to the point of exhaustion, frustration, and pointlessness.

Thats his point.

Thus: pointlessness.

There is no answer to that type of questioning analysis.

It simply leads to stupidity and should be ignored for the childishness it truly is.
not true. Thomas gave no real answer. He ducked the question. It's only pointless if its vacuous and leads nowhere, whereas the point made is a very important one that BDIS and Thomas have not really addressed.

speaking of ducks, here's a geese parade, tells you what you can do with silly animals if you get them in the right mode (bit like clicker training):

Watch at YouTube

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12-13-2011 09:46 AM  5 years agoPost 9913
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For any man who believe that there's not a true and living god,
i can tell you he/she must have hard time on creation,that they think this way.
well it not too late' you can be re-birth, not from the womb
but! in your flesh, start believing, and the tide will turn for ya,

believe kill and blieve cure which/ever way you look at it in this life....

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-13-2011 09:50 AM  5 years agoPost 9914
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For any man who believe that there's not a true and living god,
i can tell you he/she must have hard time on creation,that they think this way.
well it not too late' you can be re-birth, not from the womb
but! in your flesh, start believing, and the tide will turn for ya,

believe kill and blieve cure which/ever way you look at it in this life....
what you want to do is put on a goose costume and join that march.

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12-13-2011 09:59 AM  5 years agoPost 9915
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what you want to do is put on a goose costume and join that march.
even if i do this i'd still be apart of jah creation, how do you think,?
how do you do stuff? what part of you make wana put on a duck costume
? what part of you make you even come up with the idea.?
your still not too late,
blelieve kill and and believe cure.

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-13-2011 10:07 AM  5 years agoPost 9916
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? what part of you make you even come up with the idea.?
a silly response to a silly, clueless person.

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12-13-2011 10:20 AM  5 years agoPost 9917
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a silly response to a silly, clueless person
holly crop" it look like someone just started think how is brain
work, and flatly want to be in denial,
look your either a troll or just the type that do not have no love,
for creation,think..... if you should fall into a deep sleep tonight! your soul
will not be resurrected
but i will pray for ya,

I was waiting on some honey but there aren't no Queen bee,

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12-13-2011 10:28 AM  5 years agoPost 9918
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holly crop" it look like someone just started think how is brain
work, and flatly want to be in denial,
I'd hazard a guess that my understanding of this issue surpasses yours.
look your either a troll or just the type that do not have no love,
for creation,think
yes, just because I refuse to believe in this silliness it must mean that I'm evil, nasty, vicious, aggressive, murderous etc. . . .
if you should fall into a deep sleep tonight! your soul
will not be resurrected
but i will pray for ya,
I rather you didn't because it would be silly, pointless and moronic. Don't do it. If your God wants something from me he can talk to me himself instead of me having to hear it from all you deluded morons who claim to speak for him.

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12-13-2011 11:54 AM  5 years agoPost 9919
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1 John 4:16
And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.
God is love.
Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in them.

Bless today's reading of the Holy Word of God. Amen.

I love gravity, it always keeps my feet planted when I fly!

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12-13-2011 12:18 PM  5 years agoPost 9920
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Dusty I was raised to believe it to be true
See, there's your problem right there. You decided the Bible is true before you even read it.
and my life long study has proved my belief correct.
Rather, you convince yourself that it's true by ignoring all evidence to the contrary, which is why you have become so ferhoodled.

Dusty

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