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02-19-2011 10:32 PM  6 years agoPost 3821
outhouse

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All I'm saying is you are very stubborn in holding on to facts that can't be proven.
actually it has been proven there was no worldwide flood

it has been proven man evolved

women evolved along side man

no man has ever lived past 120 on average and no bones have been found that have showed longer life then today

no animals ever got a noahs ark other then the sumerian legend teh jews stole the noah story from

man spoke many languages before the tower of babal, hebrews were not the center of the world nor the only people.

OK bud to believe in all that BS you would have to be freakin stupid as dirt. I told you the jews wrote it to be read as allegorical.

I can be confident because im educated in the facts, I know the history and the making of the bible.

#1 Now,, can you argue that man has not been creating man and women gods and spirits for the last 200,000 years???

#2 Can you show me a remote tribe who does not have made up spirits or gods in any part of the world???

#3 Can you show me any parallels in these remote tribes that would indicate that there god is also your god talking to them in the local language and thus the god figure is sharing the same information with all people????

#4 Can you show me that your hebrew god figure does not have any simularity's with previous pagan religions such as sumerians and egpytions???

#5 The ancient hebrews put more importance on male's then females, does this show in their early writings regarding the creation of the god figure as a male????

#6 Do you think all other gods and spirits are made up by the local people of that geographic region?

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02-19-2011 11:09 PM  6 years agoPost 3822
outhouse

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the bible also states all human kind started 6000 year ago.

only a complete moron could believe this.

and since some people do, it tells me the bible promotes fantasy and lies.

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02-20-2011 01:09 AM  6 years agoPost 3823
GimbalFan (RIP)

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the bible promotes . . . lies.
Hear here.

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02-20-2011 01:43 AM  6 years agoPost 3824
Dennis (RIP)

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Hear here.
Back for another lesson in humility?

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02-20-2011 01:53 AM  6 years agoPost 3825
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Nah -- I've never in my life felt humiliated by the likes of YOU -- in fact you've already humiliated yourself enough on this and other threads for all eternity.

Deet-de-Dennis -- proving once and for all that age rarely equates to wisdom.

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02-20-2011 03:17 AM  6 years agoPost 3826
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You can not reason with Religious people, if you could there would be no Religious people. Jesus stories died of with Santa and the Toothfairy in my place.....but if beleiving in magic helps some people sleep better then I say go for it. Here in Adelaide Australia we got a couple of nut jobs screaming at everyone when they walk past "you are a sinner" bla bla and BLA, thats kind of where it goes below the belt in my books.....I wonder if they would like me and a heap of pals going to they're church on Sunday and screaming "I like shagging chicks and pinching my nipples"

Its not a closed book, If someone gave me rock hard proof that God Did Create Mankind then how can I dispute that........but to expect me to imagine and pretend....well there are lots of religions so I may pick one that suits me, is there one that says I will go to some remote virgin Island and drink beer for all eternity after I die

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02-20-2011 04:07 AM  6 years agoPost 3827
Dennis (RIP)

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Nah -- I've never in my life felt humiliated by the likes of YOU
Based on your history here, its not me that you have to worry about.

Its yourself.

I'll stick around to enjoy the entertainment.

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02-20-2011 08:25 AM  6 years agoPost 3828
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Y'all sound like broken records.

"It is proven this, it is proven that" Spare me already.

Your like talking to a brick wall. At least when the light of day shines on a brick wall it returns warmth for a while. You return anti warmth. But what ever. Things I say go ignored and things you say have no validity backing them up. I'm content to leave it at that for now.

I've never met a helicopter I didn't like :)

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02-20-2011 02:49 PM  6 years agoPost 3829
sks

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this is getting really pathetic . . .

Look Adam, what you say is nonsense along with most of the other "God" supporters.

Scientific "proof" can only go so far because of philosophical issues. That's it. Unfortunately, it's all we humans have to go on, whether we like it or not.
Can you please show me how you know all this? I won't pretend that "I" can reveal the creator to you any more than you can prove this to me. You always say something like it is irrefutable and already proven. That is just not so. It is not proven. Trust me if there were proof that there was not a creator it would be much more publicized. If there was proof, I would have a really hard time explaining to God how I cant know Him anymore too.
The fact that you can't reveal the "creator" to us tells us something: you're talking BS. Pure and simple. Because the logical consequence is that if YOU know that God exists and He's YOUR God by implication this God exists for me, and outhouse and Gimble etc . . . because we are ALL in this reality together.

Isn't it so quaint and pathetic that this "God" does not reveal himself? Because if He just did that, then all of this nonsensical debating and other crap would cease and be resolved IMMEDIATELY. Do you get that or not?

And why would such a God have the pathetic poor taste to do something and then f@#$@ off so that WE have to WORK out his existence for ourselves? That would not be ethically fair now, would it?
All I'm saying is you are very stubborn in holding on to facts that can't be proven. I have explained many times in this thread that you can seek God and find him for your proof. Its obvious you are still not trying to find him. I don't want to get in to some big disagreement about how you or I are right or wrong.
Why should anyone have to "find God"? What a silly notion! Do you want to debate the fact that the earth is round instead of flat? Facts are proven, which is why they are facts, otherwise we forget them. Our whole theories are bases on facts on top of other discovered facts. Sometimes we find anomalies and have to correct them.
It's just that to ourselves we are both right. I hold on to spiritual truth that you can't and don't try to understand.
actually that's not really possible: if your God exists me, outhouse, gimble etc. are WRONG. If He doesn't YOU are wrong. We can't all be right - it's not logically possible.

For anyone with proper thinking they'll realise that these "stories" are just blown out of proportion and got the popularity that they have because man can't tolerate the fact that there are things that he will NEVER know in his existence.

I don't care to understand "spiritual truth" because I know you've been force feed a crock of sh$t. I can reason logically and deduce that the major religions have serious ethical flaws and that is enough for me to reject them. And anyone with any decent thinking brain will realise that any idiot can make anything up and write it down and if it becomes popular and survives it will be interpreted, reinterpreted, miss interpreted, argued over, etc, etc, over the years to get to this mess about this "god" business that we have now.

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02-20-2011 04:23 PM  6 years agoPost 3830
Dennis (RIP)

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Its been said here dozens of times that science and faith are not compatible. One cannot disprove the other.

The very small minority of the US's population that claim otherwise are just that. A small voice that has little impact.

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02-20-2011 05:00 PM  6 years agoPost 3831
sks

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Its been said here dozens of times that science and faith are not compatible. One cannot disprove the other.
that's not the point.

You never get it do you?

Faith CANNOT intrude on science. When it does, faith gets "fasified". Faith also CANNOT intrude on logic or ethical constructs. When it does, it too can be rejected.

I know people like you have a hard time with that, but think for a minute if the above conditions were disregarded, think what it would mean. It would mean:

1) that we get morons and delusional idiots who can construct whatever it is they like and get away with it. This has already happened with cults and serial killers and other mental nut jobs that are a danger to society.

2) that santa claus, the tooth fairy etc. . . have as much validity as belief in Christ, Allah etc. . . and are on equal footing.

3) that anyone could believe whatever it is they want, regardless of evidence is both pathetic and sad, but totally and utterly egotistical and moronic.

I don't "believe" in Santa Claus because, well it's obvious isn't it, he doesn't make sense. In the same way I don't believe in Jesus etc. . . because, well, it's all a steaming pile of crap really, isn't it?

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02-20-2011 05:52 PM  6 years agoPost 3832
outhouse

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this shuts up the faith crowd pretty quickly

they can never answer these questions

#1 Now,, can you argue that man has not been creating man and women gods and spirits for the last 200,000 years???

#2 Can you show me a remote tribe who does not have made up spirits or gods in any part of the world???

#3 Can you show me any parallels in these remote tribes that would indicate that there god is also your god talking to them in the local language and thus the god figure is sharing the same information with all people????

#4 Can you show me that your hebrew god figure does not have any simularity's with previous pagan religions such as sumerians and egpytions???

#5 The ancient hebrews put more importance on male's then females, does this show in their early writings regarding the god figure being created as a male "father" ????

#6 Do you think all other gods and spirits are made up by the local people of that geographic region?

#7 Did people speak other languages around the world before the tower of babal?

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02-20-2011 05:54 PM  6 years agoPost 3833
helicopter

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SK my friend, this is gonna hurt.

I am going to tell you the Truth.

You won't like it.

Perhaps you don't want the Truth?

When you just ended your post with those words,
I am extremely sad of heart almost to the point of tears.

Tears for you, and yours. And tears for all those here who
read these posts and still don't Get it.

Ready?

The fact of the matter is: You're dead.

Oh, you think you're alive, but you're dead.

Yes I know, you get up to pee, head to the coffee pot
in the morning and make some brew before you go to work
to collect your pay, at a job where most everyone there is
dead too. Then on the weekends you do a little too much
boozing and not enough flying, but its all expensive anyway.

And, my friend unless someone steps into your little life
to rescue you, you will die in your sins, rebellion and
disobedience to your Maker, Who Loves you by the way.

So, here we are, the few Christians and I offering the
understanding to your heart and soul that GOD is offering
to you personally. But something or someone is preventing
you from stepping up to life, and Believing.

Believing What? You ask?

Believing The TRUTH.

What is the Truth you ask?

You won't like it, I promise...

God came to the earth in a body like ours to PAY for OUR
sin debt to Him.

It is SIN that makes us dead.

Your unbelief is Sin. And it's keeping you dead.

And you will die forever unless someone rescues you from
sin.

This is exactly what GOD has done for us, His Beloved.

And the bottom line is that on The Cross where Jesus *(God)
Died *(For You) he actually ROSE FROM THE DEAD on the third day.

Again, friend - the HAND of God has come before you today
offering one more chance to receive His Love.

What are you going to do?

Continue to disbelieve, like the lemmings around you,
or research what all those Churches, filled with sinners
just like you, BUT are redeemed by the Blood Of The Lamb.

Jesus Died for you.

All that God asks of you is that you BELIEVE IT.

If, and I mean IF - I have touched you or any reader
Open a Bible. No, not the King James. It's TOO HARD to
understand. Get a NIV or a NASB or a ESV at your
local Christian Book Store. Spend a few bucks, don't be
scared. Just do it. You may be extremely glad you did.

Open the Book Of ROMANS and read it.

To my Christian friends here this morning I hope
this brings a smile to your countenance and a leap
of joy to your heart because you HAVE believed and do
understand the Love of God in Christ Jesus. Amen.

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02-20-2011 05:57 PM  6 years agoPost 3834
outhouse

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this shuts up the faith crowd pretty quickly

they can never answer these questions

#1 Now,, can you argue that man has not been creating man and women gods and spirits for the last 200,000 years???

#2 Can you show me a remote tribe who does not have made up spirits or gods in any part of the world???

#3 Can you show me any parallels in these remote tribes that would indicate that there god is also your god talking to them in the local language and thus the god figure is sharing the same information with all people????

#4 Can you show me that your hebrew god figure does not have any simularity's with previous pagan religions such as sumerians and egpytions???

#5 The ancient hebrews put more importance on male's then females, does this show in their early writings regarding the god figure being created as a male "father" ????

#6 Do you think all other gods and spirits are made up by the local people of that geographic region?

#7 Did people speak other languages around the world before the tower of babal?

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02-20-2011 06:02 PM  6 years agoPost 3835
helicopter

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One warning when you read the Bible...

He that ROSE FROM THE DEAD wrote the Bible through special
men whom HE trusted from His Vista in Eternity.

Without HIS LIFE in your heart and soul, you WILLNOT be
able to receive or understand the words of the Good Book.

Why?

Because you cannot believe without the help of God.

You desperately need HIS SPIRIT. His Holy Spirit.

We receive The Holy Spirit when GOD opens our hearts.

But we must let Him in...

1 Corinthians 2:14
The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

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02-20-2011 06:03 PM  6 years agoPost 3836
outhouse

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The fact of the matter is: You're dead.
your a wacko Jacko! you sir are sick in the head

you are a good reason why religion should be outlawed alltogether
Oh, you think you're alive, but you're dead.
listen here you whack job

life is for the living, you get out there and enjoy the good life nature gave you and quit waisting it with BS your convict butt spews out

your a corrupt old gezer ready for the ground, you lived your whole life screwing people and now you magically found god before your butt gets planted in the ground permanently.

you sir may almost be dead, we are very much alive sicko

you only get one shot at life dont screw it up

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02-20-2011 06:08 PM  6 years agoPost 3837
outhouse

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He that ROSE FROM THE DEAD wrote the Bible through special
men whom HE trusted from His Vista in Eternity.
BS you whack job!

the whole bible was written by people and not 1 knew jesus personaly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it was not wrote by special or divine men related to jesus.
this is a fact.

if it wasnt for Constantine a roman emperor you wouldnt have a bible. Constantine figured out how to use religion to his political advantage nothing more.

hell even marcion had the first bibke all jacked up with just paul and luke in which he edited and no longer have original luke.

the OT was written long before the NT fiction.

you dont have a clue about anything whack job

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02-20-2011 06:29 PM  6 years agoPost 3838
outhouse

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what is stronger?

geography or faith?

geography, you only have faith based off of a religion because of where your were born

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02-20-2011 06:33 PM  6 years agoPost 3839
Dennis (RIP)

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Faith CANNOT intrude on science. When it does, faith gets "fasified". Faith also CANNOT intrude on logic or ethical constructs.
No one said it could intrude on science that I recall. I am sure it has in the past. But, it does not today. Certainly not in advanced cultures. Science keeps ticking along nicely regardless of anyone's faith.

That said, its simply another reason why science and faith are not compatible.

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02-20-2011 06:45 PM  6 years agoPost 3840
helicopter

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This is what Jesus says....

Recorded for us by St. John in Chapter 3

16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

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