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01-12-2011 01:34 AM  7 years agoPost 3161
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evolution,,

sure there was evolution in some amount or to some degree, maybe even a large degree, BUT evolution does not rule-out Intelligent Design,,

again, someone needs to tell me how that Protein making Machine first made it's self

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01-12-2011 01:36 AM  7 years agoPost 3162
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Yes, and the TRUTH is whatever you want it to be based on what you wish to believe, or have faith in.
Nope, the truth is what's real. Reality doesn't require faith.
there is also evolution nutters.
Yes, but there are also evolution scientists, who are the leading scientists in their fields. Don't you think it odd that all top scientists in related fields, more or less unanimously discount creation as a bunch of religious hocus pocus?

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01-12-2011 01:40 AM  7 years agoPost 3163
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sure there was evolution in some amount or to some degree, maybe even a large degree, BUT evolution does not rule-out Intelligent Design
Well, what do you reckon might have been intelligently designed? Certainly not man, since we didn't evolve until very recently, on the evolutionary tree. We are one of the 'top branches' as rcflyer_09 might say

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01-12-2011 01:44 AM  7 years agoPost 3164
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""what do you reckon might have been intelligently designed""

rather Fish, Rat or Human the very-very first Protein making Machine didn't make it's self, it had to come from somewhere

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01-12-2011 01:52 AM  7 years agoPost 3165
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the very first Protein making Machine didn't make it's self, it had to come from somewhere
Why did it have to come from somewhere? Just because we don't know all of the answers, doesn't mean we need to make them up, or to believe in 'answers' that others have made up.

Anyway, this thread isn't about the 'first protein making machine'. Mankind didn't exist anywhere near the time that the 'first protein eating machines' appeared. Not even close

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01-12-2011 01:53 AM  7 years agoPost 3166
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Nope, the truth is what's real. Reality doesn't require faith.
Depends on whose reality you are talking about.
Yes, but there are also evolution scientists, who are the leading scientists in their fields. Don't you think it odd that all top scientists in related fields, more or less unanimously discount creation as a bunch of religious hocus pocus?
All you have to do is use Google. There are scientists out there that disagree. There are some that agree.

There are also scientific fields that agree. And some that don't.

Where is the reality?

Its only what you define it, as it works for you.
Anyway, this thread isn't about the 'first protein making machine'. Mankind didn't exist anywhere near the time that the 'first protein eating machines' appeared. Not even close
Nice dodge. Man had to start somewhere, even if he was brought here.

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01-12-2011 01:58 AM  7 years agoPost 3167
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""Why did it have to come from somewhere? Just because we don't know all of the answers, doesn't mean we need to make them up, or to believe in 'answers' that others have made up.""

those parts didn't just bump around until they came together in the first Cell, you got to know that, things just do not happen that way !!

""Mankind didn't exist anywhere near the time that the 'first protein eating machines' appeared. Not even close""

true,,, AND there is also NO proof that the Evolution was or was-not tweaked by a higher life Form !!

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01-12-2011 02:01 AM  7 years agoPost 3168
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01-12-2011 02:03 AM  7 years agoPost 3169
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Depends on whose reality you are talking about.
Reality is what's real. If 10 people are looking at a heli, and 9 of them agree that it is a heli, those people are being realistic. The one that doesn't, is not being realistic. You could I suppose say that he has a different version of reality from the others, but I would argue that there is only one reality, and that is that it's a heli.
All you have to do is use Google. There are scientists out there that disagree. There are some that agree.
Just because someone says he's a scientist doesn't mean he is one. Google is great yes, use it to research the credentials of scientists, and 'scientists'
Where is the reality?

Its only what you define it, as it works for you.
It's nothing to do with what works for me or anyone else. Reality is reality.

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01-12-2011 02:06 AM  7 years agoPost 3170
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I guess size does matter,,

get it ?,,,,, Star/Matter ,,, get it

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01-12-2011 02:11 AM  7 years agoPost 3171
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Dusty,,

A) those parts didn't just bump around until they came together in the first Cell, you got to know that, things just do not happen that way !!

B) there is NO proof that Evolution was or was-not tweaked by a higher Life Form !!

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01-12-2011 02:18 AM  7 years agoPost 3172
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It's nothing to do with what works for me or anyone else. Reality is reality.
The term "Reality" is simply use a bit to much.

To many various forms of reality exist. You have yours. Others have theirs. We all, as mankind, have survived with our own forms of reality different from others.

As already mentioned, depends on whose reality you are talking about.

You cannot define and tell others what their reality "SHOULD" be. You can try all you wish. And still, you can bet that there will be plenty whose reality is not the same as yours. And there will be plenty of those that will not let you convince them of your reality. No matter how hard you try.

Guaranteed.

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01-12-2011 02:27 AM  7 years agoPost 3173
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or,,,
the reality of reality is that reality is the same for all of us, and more reality is the fact that some people don't know that, so they have a different reality..

sorry for the edits, but that's reality

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01-12-2011 02:29 AM  7 years agoPost 3174
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01-12-2011 02:32 AM  7 years agoPost 3175
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Nice dodge. Man had to start somewhere, even if he was brought here.
What do you mean 'nice dodge'? If you want to talk about abiogenesis, I suggest you start a new thread

Yes man came from somewhere:

Where do think we came from? Outer space?
As already mentioned, depends on whose reality you are talking about.
Yeah, just like the guy who doesn't believe he's looking at a heli, has his own version of reality.

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01-12-2011 02:36 AM  7 years agoPost 3176
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A) those parts didn't just bump around until they came together in the first Cell, you got to know that, things just do not happen that way !!
How do you know what does and doesn't happen? We could go back and forth all day about what 'might' be. Far better that we can provide evidence to support our assertions. Makes for a more meaningful discussion.
B) there is NO proof that Evolution was or was-not tweaked by a higher Life Form !!
There's no proof that there is or is not a teapot that orbits the earth. Why would you take anything seriously, that we have no proof to suggest may or may not be?

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01-12-2011 02:38 AM  7 years agoPost 3177
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the reality of reality is that reality is the same for all of us, and more reality is the fact that some people don't know that, so they have a different reality..
Got it in one. Or are you going to edit that once you realise what you've said?

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01-12-2011 02:41 AM  7 years agoPost 3178
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Dusty,, so what are you saying, God didn't make man but he tweaked his Evolution

BTW, this thread is about Abiogenists, notice the Subject Matter "God Did Create Mankind", if God did create Man then that would be Abiogenists

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01-12-2011 02:44 AM  7 years agoPost 3179
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If you want to talk about abiogenesis, I suggest you start a new thread
Well, what if I don't want to?

Where do think we came from? Outer space?
Its possible. Not saying it did. But, it is possible and you cannot prove otherwise.

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01-12-2011 02:46 AM  7 years agoPost 3180
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BTW, this thread is about Abiogenists, notice the Subject Matter "God Did Create Mankind", if God did create Man then that would be Abiogenists
The science of Abiogenists says that science is UNCERTAIN about the beginnings of man.

Of course, arm chair scientists will say that Abiogenists is not a science.

You see, its not their reality.

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