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10-05-2010 07:48 PM  7 years agoPost 21
rexaholic

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I'm really glad to see so many positive reviews on the Beast. I fly mini-v's right now but I'm not opposed to another brand as long as they fly either as good or better than the mini-v.

It really makes me happy to see legitimate, mostly glitch free competition with the monster mikado. Competition only means lower prices for all of us.

Keep the war going BeastX!!!

oh yeah...and you too align, skookum, and totalG...

"Helis are proof that God loves us...Wind is proof that he also has a sense of humor!"

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10-05-2010 08:21 PM  7 years agoPost 22
Turkana

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The price for the beastx is hot indeed if you consider that it is a brand new system and that it already performs so well from day one.

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10-05-2010 10:39 PM  7 years agoPost 23
MaSt0RaS

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i have 2 of them on nitro helis.. they are perfect the only problem i have its a little wobble on tictocs... i have to put a harder tape..!

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10-06-2010 01:27 AM  7 years agoPost 24
theriddick45

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I have to say I'm a believer now that I tested the Beastx on both of my helis the rex 600 and the gasser Preddy. I love it, all I had found is that you have to strap the unit very tight on a gasser or nitro but at soon you get it strap oh my God.... thats it.

I have been flying without electronics for over 8 months and never tried another unit so this is my first one and I love it, since my helis where flying mechanically well setup without the stab unit I just installed the unit with no other mechanically or unwanted weird behavior. Turn it on when thru the setup for the beastx and fly it awesome!!!!!

I have to get a second unit for the gasser i put it back on the rex 600 for more testing.

I love the set up no pc need it very simple and straight to the point. LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT....

Suzi Janis 800e & 700e 3blade both w/Ikon

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10-21-2010 04:12 PM  7 years agoPost 25
JohnThompson

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A friend found a site in Florida with Microbeast in stock. I will be flying one this weekend.

http://shop.choppershots.net/SearchResults.asp?Cat=141

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10-21-2010 04:47 PM  7 years agoPost 26
Wimbledon99

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A friend found a site in Florida with Microbeast in stock. I will be flying one this weekend.
How many heli's do you have? You'll want a BeastX for every one so see if the shop will do you a deal

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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10-21-2010 05:10 PM  7 years agoPost 27
Tail_BoomStrike

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Nice find John.... That's $20 cheaper than what I paid for mine on another retailer in the US....

What heli is it going to....?

I got mine on 700N.... Although I prefer the feel of flybar, so far I'm liking this one.... It has a closer to flybar feel on piruetting maneuvers, I could adjust my timing better.... I still have to get used to the artificial feel....

I'd probably recieve the Edge FBL tommorow from the mail.... That might help dial it in better.... I've only flown it with 690D, so, I couldn't increase swash gain too high without noticing bad tendency on piro maneuvers....

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10-21-2010 05:41 PM  7 years agoPost 28
JohnThompson

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I am dropping it into my Trex600. I might transfer it to the 700 if I like it. I am trying to lay hands on some Mavrikk FBL blades.
If all goes according to plan, I will stay up Saturday night getting it ready for Sunday morning. I am very anxious to give it a try.

JT

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10-21-2010 06:32 PM  7 years agoPost 29
red_z06

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uBeast does not require FBL blades as long as your cyclic servos are strong enough. There is a huge performance gain and crispness when used with 3d blades in smack style flying.

www.JustinJee.com

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10-21-2010 08:00 PM  7 years agoPost 30
Tail_BoomStrike

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JT,

Nice to know.... What FBL head are you using BTW....? The "time consuming part"(well, yes and no depending on what head conversion you picked up) is basically reconfiguring the lingkage geometry, normally on the servo side, it don't really take that long, it's more of how familiar you already are working with your machine.... The MB part of the set up is the easiest....

Mine's only an ADK convesion.... And I used the 6 arm servo control arm on my 610's.... It took me quite a bit of time to get my mechanincs set up, having have to deviate from Align standard configuration.... But believe it or not I could rotate my servo arm 180* without any binding.... 6* test is dead on on the blue light..... But I still want to try the 3G servo wheel later on, to see if it will make a difference....

red_z06,

I guess I gonna have to try the FBL blades anyways.... It's already on the way.... Then I'd just get back here and write about it what I think.... Should be interesting how two different flyer may have the same or different opinions on certain product.... I believe my 610 servoes have good enough torq and speed.... I could fly fairly descent 3d even on my worst day....

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10-21-2010 08:52 PM  7 years agoPost 31
Wimbledon99

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But I still want to try the 3G servo wheel later on, to see if it will make a difference....
Hi,

You may find the resolution is off when using the Align wheels with the BeastX (as with the vBar). Even with the FBL wheels the holes are too far out.

Best resolution for both 600 & 700 when using the BeastX is at 10mm / 10.5mm from centre. I use the 6 arm Futaba horns and install the balls on the second hole from centre.

This is 'on the nail'

Hope this helps.

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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10-21-2010 11:19 PM  7 years agoPost 32
elmobad

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I got the blue light at 6 deg. with the Align Head and inner hole on the stock Align servo wheels on my 700LE

Right now I have a set of the EDGE 713 FBL blades on it now. So what I am reading it will preform maby better with my SWE 710's???

GOT FBL?

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10-21-2010 11:27 PM  7 years agoPost 33
red_z06

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I have never tested it with 710dcn. I have been running 700dcn for past year or so. Between 700dcn FBL and 700dcn, there was a noticeable difference.

www.JustinJee.com

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10-22-2010 02:15 AM  7 years agoPost 34
Husker

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I got the blue light at 6 degrees with align fbl wheels(inner holes) without changing anything from how it was set up with the 3g.

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10-22-2010 02:25 AM  7 years agoPost 35
JohnThompson

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Mike,
I am doing the ADK conversion also. I planned to use the 6 arm wheel to get the 10mm that the FBL units like.

You need to come back here to visit sometime. We were hoping to see you at the Invasion.

Jt

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10-22-2010 04:17 AM  7 years agoPost 36
Tail_BoomStrike

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Hi,

You may find the resolution is off when using the Align wheels with the BeastX (as with the vBar). Even with the FBL wheels the holes are too far out.

Best resolution for both 600 & 700 when using the BeastX is at 10mm / 10.5mm from centre. I use the 6 arm Futaba horns and install the balls on the second hole from centre.

This is 'on the nail'

Hope this helps.

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!
Wimby,

Thanks for the tip.... My servoes are basically configured the way you described.... I don't know what head conversion you opted for though....

I had the chance to compare the pitch arm length between Align 3G main grip and the ADK conversion.... The ADK is 5mm longer than Align 3G.... The 3G uses link ball without stand off on the swash.... So that compensate for the avilable resolution on the cyclic throw.... ADK can simply use the stock flybared swash link ball and 10.5mm hole on servo horn....

My objective, however, for wanting to try the 3G servo wheel is to bump the collective pitch range to +-14*.... With my current configuration.... I'm getting a not quite +-13* without loosing too much available servo travel for cyclic throw.....

With the 3G servo wheel, I should be able to compensate the servo resolution for cyclic throw by using link balls with shorter stand off, I have two different sizes BTW.... But I wont find out until I tried....
I got the blue light at 6 deg. with the Align Head and inner hole on the stock Align servo wheels on my 700LE
elmobad,

Got you covered on the second paragraph above.... I hope you're talking about 3G head....
I got the blue light at 6 degrees with align fbl wheels(inner holes) without changing anything from how it was set up with the 3g
Husker,

Ditto....

JT,

ADK does the job excellently.... I don't know the exact pitch arm length difference compared to 600 Align 3G head..... But the 10-10.5mm hole link ball position on the servo horn works perfectl for the T-Rex push pull bell crank.... Just make sure the rods are equal in length....

And yup.... Sorry I missed this years Invasion.... Would've been fun.... I try to get back there for a visit and hang out with you guys....

Enjoy your Beast.... I'm liking mine.... I know you'll like it as well....

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10-22-2010 04:24 AM  7 years agoPost 37
elmobad

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elmobad,

Got you covered on the second paragraph above.... I hope you're talking about 3G head....
YEP I am using the 3G head links and link balls

GOT FBL?

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10-22-2010 08:21 AM  7 years agoPost 38
Wimbledon99

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Wimby,

Thanks for the tip.... My servoes are basically configured the way you described.... I don't know what head conversion you opted for though....
Hi Boomstrike,

When I first started with FBL I used to use the Mikado conversion and 10.5mm (with the vBar) was the optimum distance for me.

I switched to the Align head about 8 months ago and tried the Align wheels that came in the box. I went back to the Futaba wheels after only a couple of outings as my heli's didn't feel right (I also had two of the wheels move on the servos as they had stripped in 3D flight )

When I changed out my vBars for MicroBeasts, I found that the Futaba wheels 'dialled in' better.

All depends on individual set-up (and preference) at the end of the day I guess.

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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10-22-2010 08:36 AM  7 years agoPost 39
Wimbledon99

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Right now I have a set of the EDGE 713 FBL blades on it now. So what I am reading it will preform maby better with my SWE 710's???
Hi Elmobad,

I've definitely found performance differences in blades.

For instance, my 700's were initially set up on the 'Pro' setting for their test flights. One has a set of Radix 710mm FBL's and the other has a set of Edge 713mm FBL's.

I found that the Flip / Roll / Tumble rates were a lot quicker with the Edge blades than the Radix blades.

However, I just moved the settings to the Tx and dialled in the performance on the 'Radix' 700. It's now as nimble as the Edge '700'. For info, both heli's are now on the Tx in order to get the best from them.

I have to add that whilst 'dialling in' the heli's, the BeastX wins in my eyes for simplicity. Two flights is all each heli took and no messing with laptops, leads and displays

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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10-24-2010 11:31 PM  7 years agoPost 40
JohnThompson

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Well I flew the Microbeast for the first time today. Y'all were right, I do wish I had bought more than one. It feels like a flybar but stable. I couldn't believe how simple it is to setup and fly with the stock settings. No wobble or bobble or unwanted actions. I am very very happy.

John
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