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08-10-2010 11:33 PM  7 years agoPost 21
adampatrick

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Anyone using the external receiver option? I cant find any way to set the FC gain or tail gain without using an aux channel or G-View, since I have to use one aux channel for the governor I am only left with one for either FC gain or tail gain? I was expecting to be able to set the FC or tail gain from the computer but theres no way to do it?

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08-11-2010 12:22 AM  7 years agoPost 22
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Not using the external option but if you set the FC gain to I think it's "Gview" option then it will use your max FC gain as the value. At least that's how I understand it. Down side is you have to open the software to change gain but it free's up a channel. FYI I am at 60 now and it flys really well there. If it feels disconnected keep upping the gain till it becomes responsive.

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08-11-2010 01:13 AM  7 years agoPost 23
adampatrick

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I thought that was the way it would work but everytime I came back to the interface it went back to 26 and it still felt spongy, but now I think its just too low after your statement. Cheers mate.

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08-11-2010 01:44 PM  7 years agoPost 24
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Gyro/FC Gain
On the TotalG the PWR/Bind slot is the AUX channel, I have the Y harness with battery hooked there and to GEAR channel on my Optima9 and you can adjust the gain then from the radio.

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08-11-2010 03:28 PM  7 years agoPost 25
adampatrick

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AUX channel, I have the Y harness with battery hooked there and to GEAR channel on my Optima9 and you can adjust the gain then from the radio.
As previously stated that setup only allows for control of two of the following - governor, FC gain, OR tail gain...not all three as the external setup only allows for two aux channels.

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08-11-2010 03:44 PM  7 years agoPost 26
DWS6

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Gyro/FC Gain
On the TotalG the PWR/Bind slot is the AUX channel, I have the Y harness with battery hooked there and to GEAR channel on my Optima9 and you can adjust the gain then from the radio.
That is only true for external receivers. The EXT 1 and 2 are your aux 1 and 2 if your using satellites.

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08-11-2010 03:46 PM  7 years agoPost 27
Gernejr

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where can you download the Total G manual? l like to see how wiring and radio setup is.

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08-11-2010 04:11 PM  7 years agoPost 28
adampatrick

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http://curtisyoungblood.com//TotalG...spectacular.php

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08-11-2010 05:18 PM  7 years agoPost 29
ncarbon

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Sorry
Sorry Adam, I miss understood ya. I had troubles figuring out where the 2nd AUX was on the TotalG physically. Perhaps, because I don't see a way to add the 3rd AUX with an external, they could program one of the current AUXs like a heading hold gyro below 50 for gyro and above 50 for FC gain adjustment, just a thought......maybe impossible.

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08-11-2010 06:01 PM  7 years agoPost 30
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I'm not sure thats possible as you would still need the switch to be in position for one or the other, so you would either have the tail gain set or FC gain set but never both at the same time.

In any case I have now sorted it. Once you load the interface and have connected the total g, the drop down "Programming" menu offers a Gview mode in which any changes are kept once set, its like having a gview but on your pc! With this in mind I am going to have the governor on one aux channel and the FC gain on the second so that I can turn the stabilization off if required as suggested. Once I've got both gains set I'll use the second aux channel for something else.

Anyone seen the auto chaos part? Any guesses at what this does?

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08-11-2010 06:50 PM  7 years agoPost 31
ncarbon

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AUXs
Sure would be nice to have a way to handle the third AUX with an external rx.

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08-11-2010 07:24 PM  7 years agoPost 32
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Hehe,

Saw the auto kaos feature, not 100% sure what it is but sounds great

Wes

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08-11-2010 08:01 PM  7 years agoPost 33
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Did a bit of looking around and found this video of a computer controlled heli doing a chaos, I bet the electronics in the total g could pull this off!

http://www.youtube.com/user/stanfor...u/3/kN6ifrqwIMY

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08-13-2010 10:26 PM  7 years agoPost 34
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Anyone figure out how to hook up a switchglo?

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08-14-2010 03:56 AM  7 years agoPost 35
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Yes I have a switch glo on mine. The EXT 1 & 2 are the Aux 1 & 2. Grab signal from your aux and power from any of the other ports.

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08-14-2010 04:02 AM  7 years agoPost 36
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Gotcha, works like a charm....thanks.....

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08-14-2010 05:52 AM  7 years agoPost 37
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Also while doing this, be carefully not to feed your 8.1 volts back into the Ext/aux port on the receiver! I ran mine through a Spektrum regulator as I want to keep the rest of the system on 8v. I did not try it, but I bet you could cut the power wires and keep just the signal wire running into the Ext/aux port.

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08-14-2010 11:04 PM  7 years agoPost 38
ncarbon

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First Flight finally Xspec w/RJX head
Ok, I was nervous during spool up, read a few tip over stories, it was just fine and perhaps I was overly paranoid. Hover was simple and solid. Forward flight nice and straight. Aileron and elevator is quick at 70% atv, the tail ocsillated back and forth at moments with gain set @60, so I only flew a quick short tank and need to adjust the tail gain down. So, left with a nice smile on my face.

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08-15-2010 05:06 AM  7 years agoPost 39
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Ok, I got both my Synergy N5 and my Rave 450 flying on TG's....and all I can say is....WOW....they are awesome. Setup was quite easy, I simply took my time and read through everything. They both setup without a hitch. I am using an 11X so the programming is great. I have seperate gyro menus in the radio for both the tail and the flight control. I set both up with trim lock to activate once I am in the air as suggested. It's really cool that you can switch to a landing mode to make the heli more forgiving during landings and autos. As mentioned by a few other folks, the gains are relatively low. I think they are somewhere around 35ish in the TG, and I ended up at 57-59. I think I might be able to go a little higher, as I never really got any oscillations. Having the gains rather low is nice and comforting for the first flight, however it makes for a very mushy and loose feel. It's quite strange. What I chose to do was set my idle up2 a little higher than idle 1 and idle1 higher than normal. When I first lifted off, I went to idle2 rather quickly, knowing that I could quickly switch back down if I got into some oscillations. Which never happened. So then I just opened up my gain menu and set the curser on the tail, as I felt the tail needed to be trimmed first as it felt quite sloppy. So as I was basically hovering and doing some slow flying, I kept turning the thumb wheel on my radio and increasing the gain. I was able to increase it quite a bit to where the tail felt close to where I wanted it. Then I landed, set the curser to the Flight control gain and did the same thing. Again I was able to increase it quite a bit. Once I got the FC close to where I wanted it, I went back to the tail and fine tuned it a bit so it would not kick on punchouts.
Then I flew the heck out of it, and it's like flying a dart. It goes straight as an arrow. I took it about 100 yards passed the end of the runway, got going nice and fast forward along the runway, and put it into sideways flight and released the sticks. It continued straight down the runway and easily passed another 100 yards before I took it back, and it never moved out of line.....and it was quite breezy today.....it also flies amazingly well in slow flight, and the in flight auto trim is really cool. You basically just put it into a hover, release the sticks, and flip a switch and it trims the heli. It's really cool.....The Total G is awesome, unfortunately I had to order another one for my N9, and now I am completely broke. I cannot compare it to the new V-bars, but I did have a couple of the older silver ones, and while they flew great, the Total G was much easier for me to program, and it flies much better....Again, I have not flown the new V-bars, so I cannot compare the two.....Anybody need some paddles and flybars?

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08-15-2010 07:39 PM  7 years agoPost 40
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On my way back from IRCHA. Just a quick update in case anyone was wondering the status. Curtis spent quite a bit of time with me on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday to help identify the weird flight control issues I was having. We went through my setup, swapped Total G's, bypassed my regulator, and he even let me borrow a set of servos to help figure it out. Good news is the TotalG had nothing to do with the interactions I was getting. Bad news is my 8717 servos need new gears and a possible rebuild as one might be lagging and I need to replace my elevator horn as it seems to have some backlash under hard load. Running at a higher 8volts helped too. Each change made small improvements that eventually made the issues go away.

The Heli flys and tracks really well now. I have to say I couldn't be happier especially being the amount of time he spent trying to help when his booth was full of interest from other people with questions or needing help.

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