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06-05-2010 06:05 PM  7 years agoPost 1
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Hi, I'm thinking about doing a scale Schweizer 300 heli. I've looked at the century, hirobo, and vario kits. Question: whats the best?

I want parts readily available and gas, nitro or electric are cantidates.

By best I mean what looks the most realistic and professional as far as scale helicopters
Thanks for any guidance!

- Steve

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06-05-2010 06:27 PM  7 years agoPost 2
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i have always liked the hirobo because the mechs were designed to make the it look realistic. i dont like the canopy's palstic though, for that i used the century fiberglass with opening doors canopy.
the hirobo 300 also has scale working landing gear. the century and vario doesnt.
while the century one is okay, i am not crazy about its appearance withthe landing gear but i gues you can make your own.
the vario is a nice looking bird and only the gear kills its scale appearance.
heres my hirobo with the century cabin and fins

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06-05-2010 10:43 PM  7 years agoPost 3
Rodan

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My problem with all three is that the tail boom does not angle up enough... they all look like the boom is straight.

If I were to do a 300, I'd do the Vario, and build custom skids for it...

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06-05-2010 11:35 PM  7 years agoPost 4
gorhambirds

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Hirobo Schweizer

Hey Guys,

Actually, I am working on a Hirobo Schweizer right now. The tail boom does angle up to what I believe is an accurate scale rendition. Depending on where you secure the clamp on the long braces, you can angle it however you please (within reason ). The current kits come with a fiberglass canopy that has opening doors and a separate windshield. The detail is much better than the older plastic canopy. The only drag is the expense if you have to replace them ( about $300.00 for both ). I haven't priced the canopy on the Vario model, but being a bigger heli, I'll bet it costs more. I've never seen anything inexpensive from Vario. Then again, their quality warrants it. I've never seen anything of poor quality from Vario. I once looked into the Vario Schweizer but it was way too expensive for me. I think the Hirobo is the best bang for the buck as far as covering all bases. Let me know if you have any particular questions on this particular model. I'd be glad to answer them.

Steve Z

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06-05-2010 11:39 PM  7 years agoPost 5
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yeah you beat me to it on the boom angle. it has a universal dog bone type coupler that allows the right, er correct angle

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06-06-2010 12:55 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Rodan

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Wasn't aware of that...

Everyone I've seen pictures of had the boom looking 'flat'.

Good to know that it can be adjusted!

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06-06-2010 12:58 AM  7 years agoPost 7
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OK, hirobo seems like a good start. First question: They specify a 46 fx-h engine. I don't know if they still make that engine; However I think the 50 hyper or so has the same footprint..., If it does , no problem there. Second question: I'd most definitly be going with the scale 3 bladed rotor head, if so, do I need a vbar or some type of flybarless electronics , to fly with the flybarless 3 blade head?
Third ,I'd probably want a custom paint job, anybody have some good references to start looking for a cool paint scheme.

I love rc heli's ; however flying is not my passion, I am a builder so This project is more about scale and less about practicality.

Thanks for all your expert advise.

- Steve

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06-06-2010 01:56 AM  7 years agoPost 8
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Everyone I've seen pictures of had the boom looking 'flat'.
Rodan we've been so brainwashed by the pod n bom laws we tend to carry a lot of it over to the scale side
the os 50 hyper is the same footprint and will fit noporblem
you dont need the flybarless systems to fly them but many prefere to have them.
check out http://www.helispot.com and http://www.airliners.net for colorschemes.
just punch in theheli you want to find pix for.

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06-06-2010 07:46 AM  7 years agoPost 9
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Unfortunately, I think the best looking Hughes/Schweizer/ Sikorsky 300 model is the Morley H300, but is no longer made, so it doesn't meet your criteria.

Watch at YouTube

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06-06-2010 04:22 PM  7 years agoPost 10
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rj you're right it was at least one of the most realistic looking!!

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06-06-2010 07:42 PM  7 years agoPost 11
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the century 300 also has scale working landing gear. the century and vario doesnt.
Doc I know you mean the Hirobo 300 ...

Wayne - Fly it like you stole it! You're in good hands with Runryder!

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06-06-2010 09:19 PM  7 years agoPost 12
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Reddragon, yep you're right, if i'd slow down long enough to read what i am typing, i would see the mistakes i make.
if i look at the screen while i typ hello, it would look like this, hwooo[
i rest my case

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06-06-2010 09:51 PM  7 years agoPost 13
payne1967

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if you want a boom to bend a little more get an old one from a beginers p&b model thats made love to mother earth

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06-06-2010 11:25 PM  7 years agoPost 14
helibeli

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Morley schweizer300 was the best looking 300 ever brought out and spare parts were dirt cheap.Pity he didn't bring out a petrol version.

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06-07-2010 12:33 AM  7 years agoPost 15
gorhambirds

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Although the landing gear is close to scale on the Hirobo Schweizer, the "shock assemblies" really don't compress very well. In fact, a hard enough landing to compress the shocks will surely result in bending of the cross struts as they are just thin aluminum. I am experimenting with some other springs that will not only allow the shocks to better compress, the compression will allow the skids to sit a little wider apart and lower the over all height of the heli. As it stands, the gear is a little too narrow and holds the helicopter a little too high off the ground as compared to the full size Schweizer, in my humble opinion.

Steve Z

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06-07-2010 04:41 AM  7 years agoPost 16
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yeah after i noticed the shocks starting to crack, i made my own using brass and brakeline tubing.

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06-07-2010 05:20 PM  7 years agoPost 17
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I really like the tanks and fiberglass work on my Century S-300 along with the opening and closing doors...I also like the sweet sound of the OS52FS that powers it (To get it to run properly and develop proper power is a whole other story)

To make the boom come out at the more scale location, one can simply raise the scale canopy bits and fuel tanks while installing, as per the mod described by Steve H in the Century forum some years ago. As this also moves the cabin up closer to the head, the distance now between the head and the top of the canopy is much more scale-like.

I also shortened the length of the stock boom to make it more of the scale length. That is very easy to do with a wire-in tube type of tail drive that it comes with.

It is also relatively easy to make up one's own scale gear with the shock absorbers from a small R/C car using a plate across the top between the gear and the frames and attaching the shock absorbers to it. Of course the most simple solution here is to just get a set of Hirobo ones as a friend did on his.

Phil

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06-07-2010 08:05 PM  7 years agoPost 18
Daveyg

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old fart I have a hawk pro I was thinking of converting to a 300 and was starring at the 52FS I have sitting here thinking bout how cool it would sound in it,,what gearing are you using and do you run a scale 3 blade head ?

sorry I must be getting old :-) I did a search and found where I had ask that question before LOL!!!

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06-07-2010 11:17 PM  7 years agoPost 19
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sorry I must be getting old :-) I did a search and found where I had ask that question before LOL!!!
Then you must have found my answer.

Phil

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10-21-2012 02:17 PM  5 years agoPost 20
coptercptn

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I have 2 Morleys 1 assembled but not finished..and 1 NIB.. Offers?

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