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06-04-2010 10:24 AM  7 years agoPost 1
s.kuronen

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Would this work: 500-3D with flybar for 620 blades just by assembling 500se tail boom (690mm) and braces & longer belt? Should I have 450mm(600-3D) flybar?

Power setup: Xera 4025/3Y 560 kv, CC 85HV
Batteries: 10S or 12S

I expected the motor to be delivered with 5mm shaft but heck NO, it comes with 6mm shaft. So 12S might stay as a dream unless I manage to obtain (drill?) 13 or 14 teeth pinion (153t). 15 teeth pinion would result in pretty high head speeds. Or not? I practised drilling to one pinion and I would be ashamed to show the result to anyone.

Opinions highly appreciated.
Thanks.

-sami

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06-04-2010 02:48 PM  7 years agoPost 2
NTM

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I would not with 620mm blades and a full weight 10s or 12s setup, the 600 blade grips/bearings/spindle are built heavier.
The 500se is more of a lower power, lightweight 600mm blade machine.

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06-04-2010 04:20 PM  7 years agoPost 3
mmc205

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hmm, i always thought the 500 and 600 head was identical.

***Logo 600 vbar***Henseleit TDR vbar***

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06-04-2010 04:41 PM  7 years agoPost 4
eggmcmuffinplz

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Mostly. The difference is the blade grips, thrust bearings, and spindle.

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06-04-2010 04:41 PM  7 years agoPost 5
Jag72

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500 and 600

hmm, i always thought the 500 and 600 head was identical.
Nope...they are pretty much the same but not identical...they both have 8mm spindles but the logo 500 is turned down to 6mm on the ends for the thrust bearings and the grips on the 500 are considerably smaller than the 600.

The logo 600 grips are bigger and also wider...so the hole to hole size of a 600 is considerably wider than the 500 and is closer to the size of a 90 sized head than anything else.

the flybar heads use a 3mm on the 500 I think ...and the 600 is 4mm

but who cares...if its flybarred it should be converted to flybarles

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06-04-2010 09:49 PM  7 years agoPost 6
s.kuronen

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So no 500 blade holders for at least heavy flying with longer blades. Fortunately my fingers are not able to do anything tricky or quick on purpose.

I was thinking about having 2x6S ~3000mAh (10S ??mAh) batteries, should weigh max 1000g, 6S 5000mAh ~800g. Xera 4025 motor brings 100g extra compeared to Scorpion 4020, not much more power though. According to rumors, should be an efficient motor. I believe Logo with 500 holders can bear that additional load. If not, I was at least warned by experts.

I reconsider converting into full 600 when I have a basic ground touch again. V-bar, who knows. If Visa sponsors.

thanks for advice

-sami

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06-05-2010 03:15 AM  7 years agoPost 7
roc

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Xera 4025 motor brings 100g extra compeared to Scorpion 4020, not much more power though. According to rumors, should be an efficient motor.
scorpion have HK4020-560kv closed motor? I can not find!
I think you said HK4025-550KV,its data: Rm=35mohm 326g
XERA motor 4025-560kv ,Rm=19mohm, 385g

so i think Xera motor will be more powerful and efficiency!

In fact---normally,XERA 4020---equal to scorpion HK4025, and so on

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06-05-2010 06:07 AM  7 years agoPost 8
s.kuronen

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Did I buy a rocket engine? Esprit model wrote that Xera had max 1800W continuos power. I compared that motor to my Scorpion 4020-1100 and Scorpion has more power (~1600W) I can ever use. Hope Xera is as good as people write on RR. I wanted to get a good quality, powerful enough and efficient 10-12S motor. Reasonably priced too.

I decided to update the powerline now and maybe Logo gains size in the near future. My chief accountant (the woman in our appartment) checks every packet I receive So step by step. She already knows what kV rate means and batteries cost.

-sami

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06-05-2010 06:22 AM  7 years agoPost 9
roc

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sure,i think you do owned the world top heli motor(xera)!

about motor's power and efficiency datas in detail,you had better send PM or email to David(who is the designer of XERA),and he will give you satisfied anwser!

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