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06-03-2010 04:22 AM  7 years agoPost 1
soggy

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i have read enough of CC's esc incident in both RR n HF forum..

i wanna buy one to try out but have no balls for it on my 600 size heli.

kontronik is way bit too high end price for me..

how come CC is not doing something to prevent such incident happened?

it kept me think 10 times whether i should go for a CC or just dig out a bit more for a Kontronik.

What else ESC in the market is good , apart from this 2 brand..

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06-03-2010 04:43 AM  7 years agoPost 2
Logotoys600

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I never have problem CC yet I have about 200 flight on my Logo 500

I building a Logo 600 Im definitely gonna use Kontronik 80A

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06-03-2010 04:53 AM  7 years agoPost 3
philip 01

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what types of problems are people having with the cc esc's?

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06-03-2010 05:06 AM  7 years agoPost 4
rocco.sj

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Even though i had some small mishaps on CC deans connectors due to bad soldering, i'm still using CC85HV on my Logo600.

I have about well over 50 flights, and so far, so good!.

IMPO, if your going to use the CC esc on your heli, you really need to know the right proper gearing,and voltage from your battery pks.
Good Luck!.

Cheers,
Ray F.

BTW- Logo team pilot Daniel Katzav is using the Scorpion 130A on his Logo600. Just an option ESC to think about besides CC and Kontronik.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1HzkKlh0DA

Personally,i don't own a Scorpion Esc, so i can't comment on it.

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06-03-2010 05:22 AM  7 years agoPost 5
soggy

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hi monkey

https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t591061p1/

some of negative feedback ...

and a few more..

i am not anti CC or anything as i know ( align ESC worse still )..i thinking to get one of CC ICE series but wouldn't want to end up my heli in flame ...

no offence guys..just discussion

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06-03-2010 05:30 AM  7 years agoPost 6
dxflyer

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I really did wanted the CC HV 80 ice to work out; had over 100 flights on it. Governor was doing okay; 12S set up. My data log said only averaged 15 amps and peaked at 100amps so my gearing is okay. But it did bring down my logo 600 so I'm scared to put it back on and just bought the jive 80hv. If you want to try it I would suggest having a seperate power source for the receivers and electronics. Goodluck.

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06-03-2010 05:37 AM  7 years agoPost 7
rocco.sj

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@dxflyer

What Bec did you use on that Ice 80HV?.

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06-03-2010 05:54 AM  7 years agoPost 8
dxflyer

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Western robotics hercules Super Bec; 10 amps continuous 15 amps peak and can handle to 58Volts.

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06-03-2010 06:17 AM  7 years agoPost 9
lloyd

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Not sure what cells you want to run inn your L600 but another alternative is the Hobbywing range of esc and I had but great results so far even with the built inn BEC.

lloyd

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06-03-2010 09:39 AM  7 years agoPost 10
soggy

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lloyd , dont think i wanna risk my $2000 heli on a hobbywing ESC..

maybe if a Flasher or a HK600..i may consider using Hobbywing Esc..

my choice

1. Kontronik ( die die have to dig the money out )
2. CC Esc ( hope i wont get the unlucky jackpot, with CC exchanging one to one electronic while i have to pay for 10 items more on the heli )

3. Scorpion ESC ( might be another alternative )

4. Align ESC ( i think its a No No thing )

5.Hyperion 85A opto ??

not much ESC choices actually...

Last resort

- go back to basic ,,,nitro heli...

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06-03-2010 10:12 AM  7 years agoPost 11
soggy

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06-03-2010 10:36 AM  7 years agoPost 12
LaurenceGough

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Save up, buy Kontronik that's what I did (and I struggle with £££$$$).

Saves you money in the long run and puts a smile on your face.

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06-03-2010 11:46 AM  7 years agoPost 13
Raydee

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I use CC on every RC model I own. I have had bad ones that didn't last one run. Every company has bad components or bad solder joints. One thing I learned long ago with CC ESC's is not to push them at their rated output. If the ESC is rated at 200 amps and 6s I would only push them to 150 amps and 5s. The CC BEC's I would NEVER push over 4s even though they are rated at 6s and the new 12s bec would never be pushed past 10s. I have had over 25 CC ESC's and have only had three of them that went bad, one because of a bad motor one burned for no reason in the first run (bad solder joint in the esc) and the last one just quit without a puff of smoke. All were replaced without a question. I love the New ICE esc's , I am running them in my heli's and my boat hulls. On my larger heli's and boats I have the BEC disabled on them and run seperate battery packs just to be safe.

The Future of Nitro is ELECTRIC

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06-03-2010 12:08 PM  7 years agoPost 14
Ronald Thomas

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lloyd , dont think i wanna risk my $2000 heli on a hobbywing ESC..
That is the thing. See the difference is really ~$150 between the two ESCs so I would save the $$$ so that you don't have to spend WAYYY more than that in the event of a failure.........Ron

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06-03-2010 12:11 PM  7 years agoPost 15
soggy

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actually its quite true.. why save a $150-$200 where u your chances to burn into flame is $1500 ..its 10 times more..

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06-03-2010 12:29 PM  7 years agoPost 16
msg73

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Are the issues more with the CC ESC or the BEC? CC ESC's have been around for a while (except for the ICE) and most of the recent issues I've read seem to be the BEC's failing and sending the full voltage to the electronics and frying them. On a big expensive bird, the safest thing to do is run a separate rx battery.

I'm setting up a 12s FBL Logo 500 with a CC HV45 and will be running a 2s 1000-1300mah lipo through a dedicated bec to the rx. If the ESC fails, it won't send the full 12s/50 volts through the electronics and I will still have power to the servos to auto it down.

Can't see why everyone wouldn't do this as an insurance measure for the bigger, more expensive helis.

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06-03-2010 01:56 PM  7 years agoPost 17
eddiscus

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Why not run a LifePO4 2S pack at 6.6 volts and drop the BEC all together. I have been running the LifePO4 pack w/regulator for tail servo (not absolutly necessary according to others) on my Logo 600 with 10S with no problems so far.

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06-03-2010 03:13 PM  7 years agoPost 18
LaurenceGough

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Having a RX pack + reg = quite a bit of additional weight and another thing to charge after just a few flights. Also on some models it can be a bit of a pain to change them around (if you don't want to wait to charge them) compared to main lipo packs.

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06-03-2010 06:58 PM  7 years agoPost 19
eddiscus

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Well since Kontronics recommends to use a nicad reciever pack in parallel with the BEC as a buffer for the BEC, I don't see much of a difference in weight savings. A 4.8 volt 600mah nicad receiver pack weighs about 93 grams and a 2s 6.6 volt LifePO4 comes in at 101grams.

I agree every gram counts but if it makes the difference between staying in the air or kissing the ground. I will choose staying in the air.

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06-03-2010 07:36 PM  7 years agoPost 20
dxflyer

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I think I'm going with redundancy and have the bec and rx pack. 101 grams will barely make a difference and it is worth the peace of mind.

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