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06-02-2010 04:51 AM  7 years agoPost 1
drdot

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fwiw...

Since no one else has chimed in...Hats off to Israel!!...I realize the whole Gaza thing is a giant opportunity for another Obama apology tour...But I'm so happy the Israelis took it to the muslim bastards...How stupid are these "activists", really? I hope they do it again ...real soon!!

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06-02-2010 04:57 AM  7 years agoPost 2
Dennis (RIP)

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Its amazing how blind the world can be.

Oops, I guess we were blind & dumb November 2008.

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06-02-2010 05:37 AM  7 years agoPost 3
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Yeah, this is a bit bigger story than gays in the military or obamas birth certificate. As the "flotilla" were about to leave I had a feeling about something. As I heard the first news come in I logged in to a swedish newspaper (my country of origin) and sure enough the
were emidiately headlines like "massacre" and "the flotilla attack"
beeing in a country that in general takes the palestinian side.
It's funny that part of the UN are up in arms and north koreas sinking of the south's ship seams to be of lesser importance.
I'm not a 100% supporter of israel but the thought of having
hamas & co gain more power..... btw I'm sure they were hoping for a higher death toll for propaganda purposes.

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06-02-2010 05:53 AM  7 years agoPost 4
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Yeah hats off to em, they board a vessel in international waters and start shooting at people indiscriminantly.

The law states they can do this only if they believe that such a vessel is about to to attack there country, so far theyve yet to find one fire arm, as you would expect from a humanitarian vessel carrying medical supplies.

The entire world is in unanimous codemnation of this piracy on the high seas (state sanctioned murder), yet as usual America backs them all the way to the hilt.

For the record, I find muslim states pretty scary myself.

But Isreal is arrogant and downright dangerous, wouldent surprise me if they start throwing mushroom clouds around the joint pretty soon, and America will still support them all the way.

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06-02-2010 06:23 AM  7 years agoPost 5
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You wish israel could be a little smoother and wait til they got to
palestinian waters but it would probably be the same outcry.
For everybody that hates israel there's plenty of hope.
They are eventually going to be so outnumbered by muslim arabs even within their own borders.

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06-02-2010 06:27 AM  7 years agoPost 6
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Israeli Ship Gives Fair Warning
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKOm...player_embedded

Israeli Soldier Being Attacked by "Demonstrators"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU12...player_embedded

Close-Up Footage of Passengers Attacking Soldiers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjk...player_embedded

"Peace Activists" Stabbing IDF Soldier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buzO...player_embedded

More Footage from the Mavi Marmara
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAMF...player_embedded

90% of life is "showing up"

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06-02-2010 06:41 AM  7 years agoPost 7
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My heart goes out to those poor soldiers in with there automatic`s, kevlar armour and all being hit by protesters with sticks.

What do you expect if you repell onto someones boat with machine guns, a welcomeing party??

I say hats off to them for not just bowing down like cowards, as I would have done if confronted by heavily armed Isreali comandos hellbent on shooting the place up..

They make it very hard for people to to be simpathetic to there cause when they start shooting people in this manner, Ive even seen ultra orthodox jewish people protesting about this latest outrage, so I would say they havent fully thought this through at all, the Isreali government that is..

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06-02-2010 06:59 AM  7 years agoPost 8
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We gotta remember that there were 5 other ships that got escorted to a israeli port with no incident. This is off track a little but..
my brother over in sweden said he took away the kid's crayons, why I asked? -it's too dangerous he says, in case they decide to draw
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06-02-2010 07:04 AM  7 years agoPost 9
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Not takeing back anything Ive said, but I just had a look at where Gazza is in relation to Isreal, and in relation to there coastline and international waters.

Its a can of worms, Gazza basicaly is in Isreal. Say they were bringing weapons in or about to launch a nuke, its pretty hard to differentiate between a ship comeing into Gazza or comeing into Isreal, I need to do more research or wait til more facts come to light.

If it was a ship comeing into Australian or American waters without permission I would say sinkem with missiles, its not so easy to define if a ships coming into Gazza or comeing into Isreal, its a tricky one now I look at it.

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06-02-2010 07:29 AM  7 years agoPost 10
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There were no question marks, the ships left from Turkey under big public fanfare and that was the hole point, to turn public opinion against Israel by knowing they would intervine. Israel and Egypt have a blockade against gaza because of hamas. Israel fell in the trap
though and they should have been more careful.
Next time do like north korea and use a torpedo and we could all be enjoying titanic II on youtube right now, just imagine they peace keepers fighting over lifevests.

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06-02-2010 07:49 AM  7 years agoPost 11
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They need to do something about there public relations people over there in Isreal, everytime something like this happens they put someone on tv who just oozes arrogance and shiftyness, always reminds me of the old white South African`s goin on about apartheid, not as bad as the French mind you, but maybe they should use an American spokesperson instead, they just come across as very shifty and arrogant to me.

"We shut im! we shut im in the hid bucuz he wuz runin awuy!!"

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06-02-2010 08:09 AM  7 years agoPost 12
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You can try to defend Israel any way you like. The truth of the matter is this was an act of state terrorism by Israel, attacking a humaniterian aid ship in international waters and killing innocent people. It doesn't do good for Israel's image as a peace loving, responsible democratic state.
Three Cheers for Israel!!
As a Jew, Do you not feel ashamed saying that ?
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06-02-2010 08:25 AM  7 years agoPost 13
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Edit...... too hard.

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06-02-2010 08:48 AM  7 years agoPost 14
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^
I think its about 3am in the morning over there in the States and everyones still snoozeing, just you wait til they all get out of bed and realize someones said nasty things about there beloved Isreal.

It will be all on hell for leather, at best where in for one hell of a flameing, possibly banned from useing RunRyder ever again.

I think I can hear the angry mob gathering even as I speak..

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06-02-2010 09:05 AM  7 years agoPost 15
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Passion is fine. I like that in people.

But the facts of what happened speak for themselves. By saying what a great thing Isreal did, in the Assult of a internationally accredited flotilla of ships in international waters, unveils your bigotry, and unwillingness to empathize. Maybe im just smarter than that, or i got lucky, or got born into a good country with reliable news services.....Good luck with that.

Bigotry is an emotional commitment to ignorance.

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06-02-2010 11:52 AM  7 years agoPost 16
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Maybe im just smarter than that, or i got lucky, or got born into a good country with reliable news services
it's got nothing to do with being smart or not. Intelligence doesn't really come into it. Emotions are what humans have and are a part of what makes us what we are.

Let's talk about the cases where a person murders his neighbour because their dogs causes him endless sleepless nights that he couldn't take it no more. From the point of view of someone who don't know the background and context of the situation it might appear extreme, from the point of view of another it might seem justified but still over the top and the person should be locked up.

I don't support what Israel did, but paranoia could drive groups of people into making decisions that most rational people would see as flawed anyway. It's extremely hard to get inside the heads of those who are making the decisions and the circumstances and context of why those decisions were made.

This will definitely put an immense strain on foreign relations, and that can't be good for any of us.

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06-02-2010 04:01 PM  7 years agoPost 17
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fwiw..

My, My...I'm SOOO sorry I have an opinion...Says a lot that of all the posts I've made on the subject this one would be"pinked" ....(get it??)
Bigot, racist, etc...all have lost long ago their sting....I stand up for what I perceive as right...
This is a blatant attempt to goad the Israelis into exactly what they did...And said they would do...Videos show the muslim attackers clearly trying to beat the Israeli commandos....

Ask youselves this...What would I do if I were surrounded by people sworn to my destruction?..Negotiate....Or act?
To me, not a question requiring much thought.

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06-02-2010 04:23 PM  7 years agoPost 18
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Go Israel.
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06-02-2010 04:32 PM  7 years agoPost 19
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why did your post get pinked?

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06-02-2010 05:00 PM  7 years agoPost 20
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Ask youselves this...What would I do if I were surrounded by people sworn to my destruction?..Negotiate....Or act?
there are lots of similar questions like this behind this incident. And the incident will further polarise opinion.

but did the Israelis knew that it would come to this? Were they prepared for this or were their initial peaceful intentions rebuffed? Were there individuals on the boat who saw this as a opportunity to inflame and enrage the Israelis leading to the inevitable sequence of events so that the media will play into their game?

It's already polarised opinions here.

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