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06-06-2010 03:09 AM  7 years agoPost 81
LonR

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Spitfire1,
Yeah,i'll wait and go with two 4 cell packs once im ready to buy batterys but I did my maiden flight today and so far so good.Has a tiny side to side wobble in normal mode so i'll up the headspeed a little.Seems to make really good power in idleup with the stock motor/esc .Man I haven't flown in a month so I had the shakes pretty bad after 2 mins haha.Thanks for the headspead converter,thats pretty cool and I saved it .Now I need to see where my headspeed is.I didn't even look to see what pinion I have,just set my curves and flew haha.Heres my maiden flight.Didn't have anyone to record so I sat the camcorder on the hood of my car and kept it in view the best I could.Im very happy so far ..

mckrackin,
We were talking about running a 2 cell to my 6 to make a 8 cell pack but im waiting..

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06-06-2010 03:23 AM  7 years agoPost 82
Spitfire1

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Its always a delema as to stick with 6s or go HV, considering you could end up putting a perfectly good motor/esc and packs to no good use.

Maybe see how it goes with 6s for a couple of months, some guys seem to realy like the power on 6s, Im thinking it varies a great deal from one 600 heli to another, atleast you have the HV esc already thats a big extra cost.

Im thinking to get 2 4s packs is going to cost maybe $100 shipped, not sure about mixing and matching different age lipos if you bought 2s 5000`s, plus one 6s 5000 + 1 2s 5000 would add a bit more weight, I dont think it would matter all that much an 8s 5000 though, Im sure the heli would lift the extra weight easily.

Remember it may take a few flies of your 600 to iron out all the little gremlins and get it setup well so you can judge how well it goes on 6s, unlike say a 500 thats overpowered enough to just set the pitch curves track the blades throw it up and 3d.

EDIT: strangely I found my 600e was not bad for tic tocs(better than my 500), where my prob was in flips it seemed too flip too slowly and slow the rotor down too much.

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06-06-2010 05:22 AM  7 years agoPost 83
LonR

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To be honest im thinking about selling the CC 85HV and buying a esc/motor made for 6 cells.I really like the power from what I seen today and I shouldn't have a problem with it.Im running -/+ 12 degrees of pitch and 8degrees of cyclic.When I did the tictocs I used full pitch just to see how the power was and it really didn't drop at all but my batterys are also new so time will tell.I flown a 12 cell setup,its way to much for me and people make a 6 cell setup sound like a dog so thats the only reason for wanting to go 8 cells.My collective management is pretty good,I can control my heli good and 6 cell batterys are cheaper.I can also use a better charger than a 8 cell setup because this charger is taking freaking forever .I honestly made my mind up to go with the 6 cell Scorpion 4020-1100KV motor,just not sure on the esc but I want a charger first haha....

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06-06-2010 05:35 AM  7 years agoPost 84
Spitfire1

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Thats good to hear your happy with it, I was concerned it might be a big let down for you so thats great news, should keep the CC85 and use it on 6s, everyone else is.

Be interesting to hear how you compare the 6s electric to 50 size nitro, powerwise.

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06-06-2010 06:26 AM  7 years agoPost 85
McKrackin

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Awesome dude.I knew you would like the EP burst.

Now we need a battery that can do 8 minutes

The ESC you got is awesome.

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06-06-2010 06:34 AM  7 years agoPost 86
McKrackin

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That wobble looked like a servo letting go.....
Have you opened them to see if they're ok?

Electric helis put a little more torque on than nitro.
They can't do it for very long but they can do it

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06-06-2010 06:57 AM  7 years agoPost 87
McKrackin

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Did you see my tard post earlier?
I was going to make a busy video for the guys on one of the slower forums.
It's a forum for noobs and I was planning to cut out the first flight.
I went up with a series deal with a pair of 3S packs from Hobbypartz....
Gonna loosen up my fingers.
Anyway,a pair of 2650mAh 40C.....Blue lipo they're called.Xheli stuff.
Watch the trees in the back.lol...Blowing hard.
I brought it back to do a look and listen hover and BAM....a little gust pushed it in.Stripped the TT gears.I was pissed.PISSED!!

My Turnigy packs would never let that happen.Well,maybe,maybe not..but I pushed it up and it went ahead and hit the dirt.No spares.

Anywho...My Turnigy 30C is 5 times the battery my 40C Blue lipo is.
I bought the Blues because they're in the states and get them quick.

My mistake.Turnigy is the battery leaders in my opinion.I got Align,Lightning Power,Outrage,Hyperion and Turnigy.

Hyperion is a good pack.
Outrage is a POS.100-120 cycles.DONE.....
Align isn't worthy of being called a POS.
Lightning Power shouldn't be allowed to be sold.Dangerous.
Bang for the buck is Turnigy.Same battery as Hyperion at 1/3 the price.

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06-06-2010 07:18 AM  7 years agoPost 88
McKrackin

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Can you hear a difference?

Blues....Idle up 100% flat....

Watch at YouTube

Turnigy...89.5% in the beginning and 95% at 1:26.....

Watch at YouTube

Big difference buddy.
Go with the Turnigy packs.

I was hung over in the second vid and babying myself.
Just listen.Don't watch

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06-06-2010 07:42 AM  7 years agoPost 89
Spitfire1

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mckrackin:

I think He`s concerned the CC85HV wont be able to handle the amps that the 6s setup puts out (I have read they can put out 120 amps), someone earlier on in the post said if he uses the CC85 theres a good chance it will go pop on him.

Do you run the CC85HV ? Maybe you can convince him its OK as thats what most people are useing in 6s machines, I understand the CC85HV is only good for 100 amps, but Ive never heard of anyone haveing any problems with them, I hear of them not working but cant recall hearing about any catching on fire due to amps, I think there pretty much bullet proof in that regard.

In regard to the power or lack of with the 6s, I think what realy ruined my 600e for me was after flying my 500e for 6 months or so, I found going back to the 600e was very difficult, after being used to the way I could toss the 500 around so easily without haveing to worry about collective management so much/at all.

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06-06-2010 07:58 AM  7 years agoPost 90
McKrackin

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OMFG...Nevermind that last video.
I know there is a difference in RPM's but I couldn't understand why the pitch didn't save it.

I just went into my radio for a look-see.
I messed it up bad.
I got my 250 pitch curve transposed on my 500.
The 250 is a little too bouncy so I dropped the center point on the pitch to 38.5%.
I broke an antenna off on my 500 so I took it's RX and put it in the 250 and put the 250 RX on the 500.
Instead of re-binding,I re-named them in the radio.
I didn't change the curves.

The pitch pumps didn't feel different since I was pushing past the center point but when I went to let it down easy,I didn't realize I had negative pitch all the way to 3/4 throttle.

Krack-head,you deserve to pay for parts.Effin Duuuhhhhh....

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06-06-2010 08:05 AM  7 years agoPost 91
McKrackin

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Maybe you can convince him its OK as thats what most people are useing in 6s machines, I understand the CC85HV is only good for 100 amps, but Ive never heard of anyone haveing any problems with them, I hear of them not working but cant recall
Well,let's put it this way....A buddy of mine is running the 85HV on his Pantera and his Castle Link shows 130amp spikes.

It runs an average of 65-70amps but with 700mm blades and still running a clutch,it peaks hard.

A lil Trex 600 won't push that ESC a bit.

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06-06-2010 08:21 AM  7 years agoPost 92
LonR

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Spitfire1
Thats good to hear your happy with it, I was concerned it might be a big let down for you so thats great news, should keep the CC85 and use it on 6s, everyone else is.

Be interesting to hear how you compare the 6s electric to 50 size nitro, powerwise.
Yeah I really like it so far but that was only one flight haha.I wanna put this esc on it but if it burns up im screwed.Trust me I do,its brand new but thats alot of money down the drain if things go south and I don't have the money for another one.I really rather get the right one with the right motor so im not worrying if the esc will fry while im flying.I did check the Alihn esc right when I turned the camcorder off and I could hold my finger on it for 7 secs or so,im guessing thats good?Forgot to check the motor but my lipo was a tiny,tiny bit warm .

As for my 600N vs my 600E I can't really say right now but i'll know tomorrow if it doesn't rain or Monday for sure..
mckrackin
That wobble looked like a servo letting go.....
Have you opened them to see if they're ok?

Electric helis put a little more torque on than nitro.
They can't do it for very long but they can do it
Im 100% sure its not the servo.You really need to fly a nitro so you can compare them .Im no pro but I fly hard enough i'll know if the 6 cell setup will be better than a 600N with a OS 50 Hyper.Will report back with video in the next day or 2 and give my honest opinion.I do love nitro and do plan on going back (maybe) but im not going to lie.Yeah I just opened another window and seen the crash,that sucks.As for your camcorder,I think you need to change the white balance (AWB) so everything isn't so bright.Do what I do,play with the white balance settings and take random videos to see which ones come in better.I have a canon DC100 mini dvd camcorder and the best setting for it is shade or daylight depending on the light out side.I got a Samsung Progressive HD camcorder and the stock settings work perfect.

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06-06-2010 08:23 AM  7 years agoPost 93
McKrackin

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http://www.youtube.com/user/helipai...u/7/3eBTVYc-Jtw

I think Steve is running 12S in this video so amp draw is hard to compare.But what I said about his 85HV was on 6S.Not 700mm blades though.I checked and I was way wrong.It was with 550mm blades.Close.

Camera...I need help with that.
How do you change it to get rid of the white out?

That video didn't have any flying in it.Thank god.lol.....

I'd hate to miss it next week though when I get up and running.

In that vid you see me moving around?
That's because the glare was as strong to me as it was the camera.
I had to see the shadow.

Maybe no more flying on that side of the house at noon?

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06-06-2010 08:27 AM  7 years agoPost 94
LonR

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Spitfire1 mckrackin:

I think He`s concerned the CC85HV wont be able to handle the amps that the 6s setup puts out (I have read they can put out 120 amps), someone earlier on in the post said if he uses the CC85 theres a good chance it will go pop on him.

Do you run the CC85HV ? Maybe you can convince him its OK as thats what most people are useing in 6s machines, I understand the CC85HV is only good for 100 amps, but Ive never heard of anyone haveing any problems with them, I hear of them not working but cant recall hearing about any catching on fire due to amps, I think there pretty much bullet proof in that regard.

In regard to the power or lack of with the 6s, I think what realy ruined my 600e for me was after flying my 500e for 6 months or so, I found going back to the 600e was very difficult, after being used to the way I could toss the 500 around so easily without haveing to worry about collective management so much/at all.
If your 100% sure the CC 85HV will be fine then i'll use it.I'll do a search and see what I can find on the CC 85HV with stock motors on 6 cells and report back.I mean I bought it to use so thats what I wanna do but I don't wanna kill it because I do not at all have the money to replace it and I know i'll be hard on the heli..

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06-06-2010 08:34 AM  7 years agoPost 95
McKrackin

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It will definitely be better on 8S but I'm pretty confident that 6S will be fine.

I won't put money on it til I read some though.lol...
My buddy Steve has it on 6S and 12S so......

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06-06-2010 08:56 AM  7 years agoPost 96
LonR

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mckrackin It will definitely be better on 8S but I'm pretty confident that 6S will be fine.

I won't put money on it til I read some though.lol...
My buddy Steve has it on 6S and 12S so......
I really need to see feedback from someone that has video of them flying the CC 85HV on 6 cells with a stock motor or a Scorpion 4020-1100KV motor for a year or so because thats what im looking for now.If I had the $180.00 to replace it if it fails I would but thats alot of $$ for me just to take a chance to see if it holds up .Im sure it will be fine for some sport flying but I plan on beating the sh!t out of the heli all the time .If I start burning things up because it wrong,im not going to like electrics at all.I wanna good setup that im not going to have problems with.Thats why I love my nitro helis,fuel,fly and there problem free for me because I know what im doing with them.I want the same out of this heli .

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