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05-31-2010 11:37 PM  7 years agoPost 161
Dennis (RIP)

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BP is responsible for the clean up. Transocean is responsible for the accident.
And Obama is responsible for the BS.

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06-02-2010 12:06 AM  7 years agoPost 162
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FBI please get involve in this oil Bull shi@@@@@@

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06-02-2010 02:22 AM  7 years agoPost 163
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Their about ready

To make the flange cut !!! jIG AND FIXTURE READY TO GO !Look's like a carbide wire. AWSOME and at 5000 feet !

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06-02-2010 02:39 AM  7 years agoPost 164
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Pardon my stupidity

Here are some dumb questions. If you have a device that can clamp on the pipe that can pass a carbine cutter across the pipe, after you have a clean cut what about a device that clamps on the drill pipe and has a gate valve above it. Sure might not be a great seal but we are only talking a couple thousand PSI which is nothing for the steam fitting guys? Would it just eject the drill pipe?

Ok idea number two along those same lines a device that literally clamps the pipe shut with shear force and then drill a well to relieve the pressure.

Idea #3 a device could be built in a week or two that could sleeve a pipe over the existing pipe and then weld a seam around it?

Give this project to a college graduate class and we would all be dumbfounded with the ideas...

Ok guys shoot holes in all this and throw out some better ideas...

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06-02-2010 02:49 AM  7 years agoPost 165
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Their about ready
To make the flange cut !!! jIG AND FIXTURE READY TO GO !Look's like a carbide wire. AWSOME and at 5000 feet !
You mean I'm not the only whacko watching this stuff unfold live? It's actually a diamond coated carbide wire. And yes.... pretty damn awesome!

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06-02-2010 03:03 AM  7 years agoPost 166
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Pardon my stupidity ....
03fomoco you not the least but stupid but the amount of brainpower brought to bear on this problem is staggering. The shear number of ideas that have been explored, discussed, and dismissed will fill volumes I'm sure.

Every thing they have done is all based on the time frame that you have seen it unfold in.

The bottom line is that the relief wells are the fix.... PERIOD. Everything else is a gamble. They are out to do whatever they can to minimize the oil spill for the next 2 months until the relief wells hit and that is it in a nutshell. They started moving rigs into position to spud the relief wells the moment they realized the BOP was kaput. But in deep sea drilling, you can't make a baby in 1 month using 9 women. It takes what it takes to get those relief wells drilled and everyone would scream their heads off because it would look like they weren't doing nothing for the next 2 months.

Let's hope that the top hat that is about to go into place captures most of the oil for the next 2 months until those wells are in.

Mark C.

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06-02-2010 03:18 AM  7 years agoPost 167
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cutter

Rember the Russian submarine that sank a few years ago off the coast of I think it was Finland. (torpedo exploded in the fwd torpedo room and killed the crew). They made a wire cutter that cut through the entire front of the sub and raised it up to the surface. Those sub hulls are Hard and Thick, much bigger than a pipe.

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06-02-2010 03:28 AM  7 years agoPost 168
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Man I love making chip's !!!

I give my hat's off to the boy's at BP ! Accident or not -- that put's the ole Buggo - track torches and my #24 tip's to shame !

I'm looking forward to see them pick the weight. Bet that sucker is noisy !!

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06-02-2010 04:04 AM  7 years agoPost 169
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Sure might not be a great seal but we are only talking a couple thousand PSI which is nothing for the steam fitting guys?
Try 6000 to 10,000 psi for a typical deep well. But yeah cool stuff indeed.

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06-02-2010 04:15 AM  7 years agoPost 170
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Holy crap they are gettin after it now! What an oily mess That little cutting robot is gonna need a trip to the carwash!

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06-02-2010 06:10 PM  7 years agoPost 171
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where are you guys watching this live?

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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06-02-2010 06:11 PM  7 years agoPost 172
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where can I find that live feed??? Google comes up with the usual crap stories, but no live feeds.

OOps -sorry Pru, didn't see your post!!

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06-02-2010 06:19 PM  7 years agoPost 173
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06-02-2010 07:26 PM  7 years agoPost 174
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Strange, watching this live is about as interesting as watching paint dry, yet I can't take my eyes off it.

"Some problems don't have solutions, only outcomes" --Isaac Asimov

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06-02-2010 09:22 PM  7 years agoPost 175
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One of the live feeds.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_int...rov_stream.html

Actually it's better to just open the stream using media player.

http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/....asx?bkup=46260

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06-02-2010 09:45 PM  7 years agoPost 176
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Cool....
Hey I just had a thought and I'm sure the guys here that know their dookie can tell me if this is silly. How about a metal sleeve that , of course, that slips over the exiting pipe and on the end of that sleeve is attached a seriously high strength 5,000 ft. length of hose (think larger diameter and thicker fire hose)that runs to the surface. Guys have mentioned bladders and we all know that won't work because of the pressure at those depths. HOWEVER, if instead of trying to contain the oil, we simply re-direct it. With the pressure the crude is coming out of the pipe, I would think it would be looking for the easiest escape route, and that would be up.
I wouldn't think that burst strength would be too big of an issue because the pressure inside and outside of the hose would be the same and the small amount of flexibility in the hose might solve some issues.
Somebody shoot me down here.....

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06-02-2010 10:40 PM  7 years agoPost 177
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HOWEVER, if instead of trying to contain the oil, we simply re-direct it. With the pressure the crude is coming out of the pipe, I would think it would be looking for the easiest escape route, and that would be up.
I'm no expert but it sounds reasonable to me.

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06-02-2010 11:08 PM  7 years agoPost 178
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...

[/quote] BP is the most stringent in safety in the whole Gulf of Mexico period.

How can that be?

From the OSHA

Willfull safty violations-
Sunoco @ 8
Conoco Phillips @ 8
Citgo @ 2
Exxon @ 1
BP @ 760

British Petroleum would rather pay the fines because there so small, than pay for an environment that protects there workers.

I cant wait to see the chains and shackles come out...

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06-03-2010 12:14 AM  7 years agoPost 179
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Hey I just had a thought and I'm sure the guys here that know their dookie can tell me if this is silly. How about a metal sleeve that , of course, that slips over the exiting pipe and on the end of that sleeve is attached a seriously high strength 5,000 ft. length of hose (think larger diameter and thicker fire hose)that runs to the surface. Guys have mentioned bladders and we all know that won't work because of the pressure at those depths. HOWEVER, if instead of trying to contain the oil, we simply re-direct it. With the pressure the crude is coming out of the pipe, I would think it would be looking for the easiest escape route, and that would be up.
I wouldn't think that burst strength would be too big of an issue because the pressure inside and outside of the hose would be the same and the small amount of flexibility in the hose might solve some issues.
Somebody shoot me down
That is exactly what they are going to do. But instead of flexible hose they are going to use riser pipe

The OSHA stats you pulled up are for their refineries not their offshore production. Two different animals

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06-03-2010 12:20 AM  7 years agoPost 180
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Sand It In

And then get the wreckage down too every last nut and bolt off the bottom. Screw the profit's - lesson learned.

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