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06-06-2010 02:11 AM  7 years agoPost 461
buzzsaw

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Southeast USA

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tryan02
Having a 150 is nice on the bigger planes,however on the smaller one you do still need to have them just right.I use almost no expo during High alpha and hovering/tork rolling,it is just where I like the feel.Having a good throttle curve is the uuut'most of importance.Here is a short video of me doing some hovering and basic 3D stuff with one of my big planes,you can really see the inputs on the stabs well.Video is not that well and I just started back with the big planes after about a year away,lolol I still beat the crap out of my helis though

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Dave

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w-9RdW69Z8

SkySpy Aerial Video

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06-06-2010 02:23 AM  7 years agoPost 462
Spitfire1

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I find with about 25 or so degrees it hovers OK but I dont feel like I have complete control like on the sim, eventually I have to bail out and i would not attempt it low, a lot is inexperience also.

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06-06-2010 11:36 PM  7 years agoPost 463
hbk2owner

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indianapolis, Indiana

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Just got home from a funfly. I flew the swift and the tiger 60. The swift was my contest bird. The first try i did not do to well then the 2nd round i got all my points except for the bomb drop. There was no way to do it with the swift. I should got extra point for not using rudder at all. Everyone else had rudder. It was a fun day.

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06-07-2010 01:42 AM  7 years agoPost 464
Spitfire1

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MX went into the ground did not hear my timer go of and went into low voltage cutoff, was already flying low and near stall spead comeing around for a landing and did not even realise it was deadstick until it was too late.

My 45 deg throws made hovering much easier, I was just about to really get it nailed I think.

May be able to fix, main problem I see is the cowl is destroyed, wonder if it would be possible to fly without a cowl?

My f16 augered in minutes later from a bad handlaunch, got nothing to fly now.

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06-07-2010 02:23 AM  7 years agoPost 465
airboss

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spitfire , sorry to hear about your MX , you got to disable the cut off function on your esc and none of these things will happen again.
with esc motor cut disabled you will always be able to recover and land safely even though the lipo is low .

Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3

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06-07-2010 03:11 AM  7 years agoPost 466
john howard

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Deatsville alabama

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spitfire I feel your pain I went to an event this weekend and put my 100cc yak in hard.trashed the fuse but maybe able to salvage the wings and the stabs.All turned out well on saturday a friend sold me a 42% edge 540 with a 3w150 on cans with all jr 8411;s for 1500.00 ready to go.i programmed it to my transmitter and put a tank through it that afternoon.Im going to change all of the servos to hitec 7955's and change the scheme but still got a deal on It.He even gave me half my money back on the da100 I pulled off of the yak.Good friends are priceless.

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06-07-2010 03:51 AM  7 years agoPost 467
Spitfire1

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I dont understand with helis on the couple of occasions I went too long I got tail pulseing, on the 3 occasions its happened with planes so far it just instantly goes to zero with no warning at all.

If I went too long with my heli I could literally destroy the lipo and the charger would not recognize it as a 6s, where with planes it just stops and the pack albeit a bit hot and puffy is still readable as a 6s (not as low)

Because I was at less than 1/4 throttle I did not even realise the power had gone until it was too late.

Its the nature of the hobby that you dont try certain manouvers that you think you can do incase you trash the plane, and then something stupid like not hearing the timer causes a crash.

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06-07-2010 12:32 PM  7 years agoPost 468
SSN Pru

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the tail on the heli's was pulsing because that's probably the warning function on your ESC's working. some of the ESC's pulse the power rapidly near LVC to warn the pilot of low voltage and the coming power loss. the tail twitches becaue the gyro is fighting the quick power pulses.

In all likelyhood, the power on your plank pulsed as well, you just never noticed it if you were using the same make of ESC.

It's best to use a timer AND a low voltage visual warning device with bright LED's. There are some on the market and designs exist to make your own.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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06-08-2010 02:13 AM  7 years agoPost 469
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Fly 3 Mistakes high when learning new maneuvers!!!

As for the lipos and cutoff well thats not a constant SSN Pru I have batteries in a foamie that will not hit cutoff till the plane falls out of the sky!!!!

If I start pulsing I cant come back around to land, I have had to land downwind a few times. Once I was in an inverted low pass when it died (I was talking ) I flipped it over and down it went no airspeed left luckily with a foamie you can just drop it no harm done.

Anyway here is a few pics of my new toy I can officially participate in IMAA!!!!

No Really I am the club President!!!

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06-08-2010 05:02 AM  7 years agoPost 470
Spitfire1

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Im realy starting to wonder about the old 3 mistakes high rule, it seems to me with helis and planes alike, the times when Ive crashed or come close too have always been when I lose orientation due to the heli/plane being too high and far away, if its low and close I can see whats happening, react and at least have a chance of saveing my model.

Ive never been very good at flying at distance, everytime Ive done something new with a heli be it a backflip or whatever Ive had to do it either at eye level or slightly higher, maybe 10 - 15 ft.

The only time when this failed me was my first attempt at backward inverted, everything went wrong and I was too low and crashed.

Im trying to do new things as high up as possible with my plane, but Im finding its that which often makes me nearly crash when I lose orientation.

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06-08-2010 12:55 PM  7 years agoPost 471
fla heli boy

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cape coral, florida

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+1 Spit. I've always said that. Guys at our local field (even some pretty good pilots) fly so f'ing high, that I ask, "where's the enjoyment"??? You can hardly see what it's doing. Sorry, but I like landing with weeds stuck in my wheel pants....

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06-08-2010 01:03 PM  7 years agoPost 472
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Im trying to do new things as high up as possible with my plane, but Im finding its that which often makes me nearly crash when I lose orientation.
I am not a very skilled heli pilot just loops and flips mostly scale pilot.

I can do 3D maneuvers proficient with planes though. It is different for me I dont worry about orientation I am at a point I just know the plane is where I last put it. I guess it also helps learning to fly through the sun in the morning as our field faces the east.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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06-08-2010 01:27 PM  7 years agoPost 473
SSN Pru

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As for the lipos and cutoff well thats not a constant SSN Pru I have batteries in a foamie that will not hit cutoff till the plane falls out of the sky
I know, that's why I recommended a visual voltage device. I made my own that I set at 3.33v/cell. It lights up a high brightness LED when it hits that voltage. That's a battery-saving-safe voltage that ensures long battery life!

Constantly draining your battery such that the LVC hits will ensure that your batteris live a short and miserable life!

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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06-08-2010 05:16 PM  7 years agoPost 474
tryan02

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No Really I am the club President!!!

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06-09-2010 01:55 AM  7 years agoPost 475
airboss

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helis are easy to lose orientation but the planes are much better at forgiving the mistakes , Hmm helis are a lot of time and money and parts after a crash, planes get some ca and oracover and maybe a little epoxy, helis got to be set up perfect or they fly like dog dooty and planes just need some trim if all isnt perfect. I dont fly helis anymore and dont mis them much either, infact here in oc the plane guys are just a lot nicer to hang with and giant scale is finaly affordable thanks to http://www.pilot-rc.com and engines like DLE.

Urukay HPS3 KSE 700 HPS3

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06-09-2010 02:20 AM  7 years agoPost 476
Spitfire1

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I find the plane just turns into a black siloute sometimes and if I panic all of a sudden my brain flips out, I think what happens is I doubt myself just for a milisecond or so, its a horrible feeling.

Also our club is surrounded by thick bush, trying to recover your receiver out of there, your likely to get bitten by snakes and punched out by kangeroos, at best spend the next 2 days pulling ticks out of your legs. Assuming you dont get lost and die of starvation.

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06-09-2010 01:03 PM  7 years agoPost 477
SSN Pru

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I've found, through my 15 years of RC, that the best practice is to ALWAYS keep a mental picture of the orientation and direction of your plank and heli. It helps a LOT when your eyes try to deceive you.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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06-10-2010 02:38 AM  7 years agoPost 478
tryan02

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Canton, Missouri

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Just got back from flying my newly purchased but old kit 85" hangar 9 taylorcraft!!! I have never flown a plane so relaxing and so aerobatic at the same time I am excited about getting the smoke system done for it.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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06-10-2010 12:46 PM  7 years agoPost 479
SSN Pru

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clip wing?

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06-10-2010 09:41 PM  7 years agoPost 480
tryan02

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yes clipped wing taylorcraft zenoah G-26 magneto version bout all you can sensibly fit under the cowl. The bigger my planesget the more I like them. I am setting up the TME simple smoke pump system for the cool factor.

No Really I am the club President!!!

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