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01-25-2010 03:57 AM  8 years agoPost 1
TJinGuyrrProfessor - Socorro, NM - USA - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I did a search and found very little info on these connectors so I thought I would take a few photos and write up a short review.

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Like many I am fed up with Deans. They are annoying on so many levels and although I can't say I have ever had a performance problem with them, there are plenty of failure reports on the forums. Anyhow I am always keeping an eye out for other options. Some folks love the EC3 connectors and as nice as they are, they are very expensive, hard to reuse and very hard to connect/disconnect. Then I came across a new option, the XT60 connector. They looked small enough and I liked the design so I grabbed a 10 pack and am giving them a go in place of the Deans I use.

First impressions
Wow these things feel great! They fit together very nicely and feel very secure. They require less force than either a Deans or a EC3 but feel very secure. Size wise they are just a little bigger than Deans when connected. The best part is the design is similar to a EC3 where no metal is exposed past the housing, ever! There is even a recess for the heat shrink to fit into in order to ensure no metal is exposed on the back side.

Lets just say they make a very good first impression

Soldering
Because of the design they are very easy to solder, much easier than Deans. I have used both 12ga and 16ga so far and both fit will inside the solder cups. Over all it is a good design but not perfect.

My only problem. I was using a "3rd Hand" soldering helper and with the connector I was working on clipped in the alligator clip. When I finished soldering on some 12ga lead wire and removed the connector from the clip I found that the head of soldering had softened the housing enough that the alligator clip sunk its teeth into the connector. It did not ruin the connector but it did deform it a bit. Now I am a fairly good solderer and was using a very nice solder station. SO if this can happen with me soldering, it can REALLY happen with someone with less skills and/or equipment.

A few photos
Here they are in all their yellow glory

(left) Opps melted that one. (right) My solder helper for soldering the connectors on packs. The shrink tubing on the terminals to protect from shorts while soldering.

The XT60 compared to Deans knock-offs and EC3s.

Here is what I am using the connectors on the at this point.

Here is what each size of wire looks like soldered to an XT60.

Jan 25th, 2010 Update
I made my first flights using the XT60s and I am liking them very much. They are larger than the Deans but that is not an issue on my bird. They are SO much easier to line up when connecting them and with all the area to grip, unplugging them is super easy also. Plus I can easily disconnect them with one hand, something I could not always do with Deans. Right now I am seriously considering converting to the XT60s on my Protos also. I am running 3.5mm bullets and although they work fine, I am really liking the XT60s.

- Chris

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01-25-2010 07:38 AM  8 years agoPost 2
atkw

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I'm also contemplating on changing my Deans connector. This looks like a feasible option. Btw, where can we find this?

Any chance you have use Powerpoles before? If you have any on hand, would you mind posting a picture for comparison? Thanks.

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01-25-2010 07:43 AM  8 years agoPost 3
OICU812

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Thx to Mr. Mel for advising me onto these as well.!

I love these connectors for my 450-500 sized birds for sure, running them on 3S and my small 2600-3000mah 6S and they work a treat! Real tight in beginning but after about a dozen hookups they are just right. I will not go back to deans for small stuff no way, these are great. For larger my favs are the EC5s for sure, anything above 6S gets those on my vote.

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01-25-2010 03:19 PM  8 years agoPost 4
TJinGuy

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You can get them off eBay and HobbyCity. There are other sources but those seems like the easiest.

I don't have any PPs, maybe someone else can post up a pic?

- Chris

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01-26-2010 04:24 AM  8 years agoPost 5
atkw

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Guess what, I found the size comparison and picture. Just thought I'll share with all.


It's a picture courtesy of JIM DUDA fr RCGr...
P.S. If it's inappropriate/illegal to do this, I'll take it off.

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01-27-2010 05:12 AM  8 years agoPost 6
Ace Dude

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You can also cut down the Powerpoles to make them small if space is an issue.

http://www.flyrc.com/articles/using_powerpole_2.html

  

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02-01-2010 01:32 PM  8 years agoPost 7
chris6414

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Solder trick
I use my propane torch to super heat my solder tip when soldering 12 G and bigger batt wires. It can take awhile with standard iron to heat the connectors and the risk of melting is always there. With a super heated tip and good tinning, you can solder these in about 2 seconds. This way the connector won't melt on you with sustained heat.

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02-01-2010 03:41 PM  8 years agoPost 8
TJinGuy

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Having a soldering station with a 900F setting makes it trivial also.

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02-01-2010 03:58 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Ace Dude

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The correct way to solder is to use a constant tip temperature ~700-750 degrees Fahrenheit and adjust the tip size when more thermal mass is required for soldering larger contacts. Ever wonder why companies such as Weller have so many tip sizes available? I use tip sizes from 1/32"-1/4" depending on what I'm soldering.

  

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02-01-2010 04:07 PM  8 years agoPost 10
TJinGuy

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Why then Ace do soldering stations have variable temps? Maybe because you might want to change the temp for special soldering jobs. But yes you are correct, tip selection plays a big role in soldering, just don't forget that it can be overcome by raising the temp.

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02-01-2010 04:35 PM  8 years agoPost 11
Ace Dude

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But yes you are correct, tip selection plays a big role in soldering, just don't forget that it can be overcome by raising the temp.
The point is to use the proper size tip for the job so you don't have to touch the dial. When you turn up the dial it's much easier to melt the connectors as shown in your photos.

  

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02-01-2010 06:05 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Pistol Pete

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tip selection plays a big role in soldering
Other variables to consider;

the amount of time heat is applied and type of solder being used.

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02-01-2010 07:02 PM  8 years agoPost 13
TJinGuy

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- quality of tinning on tip
- what you are holding the to-be-soldered item with
- how much solder you have on the tip when you make contact
... yeah there are a lot of variables when soldering

But lets face the facts here, most people have a $10 Radio Shack 35W soldering iron. No it does not have multiple tip options and it is not adjustable in any way. So why are we still talking about this?

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02-01-2010 07:05 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Pistol Pete

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So why are we still talking about this?
Because you have not closed the topic.

Any other questions?

BTW...thanks for "short" review. It's amperage specs would have been a nice piece of information to include such as 65A nominal vs 40A for deans.

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02-25-2010 04:44 PM  8 years agoPost 15
GScott

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Looks like these are essentially bullet connectors. Does anyone know what size they compare to? I believe the EC5's are basically 5mm bullets. Since all my packs and ESC's have 10g leads I'm looking for a Deans alternative. I currently have Powerpoles on most stuff but I'm nervous on how easy they are to pull apart. Also not sure if they are up to the task on my Logo 500se and 12s 700e.

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02-25-2010 05:46 PM  8 years agoPost 16
TJinGuy

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They are effectively 3.5mm billets. A regular 3.5mm male will fit in the female XT60 but not the other way around. I personally give them more credit than Deans but others will say different.

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05-01-2010 03:31 AM  8 years agoPost 17
Toywizard

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Soldering
Just my two cents.....I have been using a wood burning
iron for my soldering for years...like 30+.

I have a soldering gun and iron but they don't get hot enough
or hold the heat like my wood burner does.

Nice fast soldering on Deans.

I am interested in the XT60 plugs because I accidentally purchased
a batch of batteries with them mounted.

Now I either have to adapt over or convert all. hmmm

Have a great weekend all.

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