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01-24-2010 04:06 PM  8 years agoPost 1
FLAME747

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Hi All,

Newbie here, will just a few questions.

How much flight time are you all getting from these gas heli's,

Is the maintenance up keep difficult.

Does it get covered with that oily stuff after flying

Thanks,

FCA

JR X9503.Trex 450 Sport Modified by NightFlyr – Call Sign “MidNight Cowboy”, JR 287MG on Cyclic, Fut

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01-24-2010 04:50 PM  8 years agoPost 2
AceBird

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How much flight time are you all getting from these gas heli's,
most people fly 20-30 minutes but you could go longer depending on tank.
Is the maintenance up keep difficult.
Some would say yes and some would say no. It requires a more attentive regiment.
Does it get covered with that oily stuff after flying
Absolutely not.

Ace
What could be more fun?

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01-24-2010 04:53 PM  8 years agoPost 3
turboomni

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[quote]Hi All,

Newbie here, will just a few questions.

How much flight time are you all getting from these gas heli's,

Is the maintenance up keep difficult.

Does it get covered with that oily stuff after flying

Thanks,

FCA

Flight times can be from 15 to 45+ minutes per tank.

Maintenance is minimal once setup correctly and the motors last far longer than a nitro motor. Gas motors are very different to tune than nitro so if you are familiar with nitro do not apply it to a gas motor. It is no more difficult than nitro just different.

There is no oily goo all over the model and instead of 25 to 30 + bucks for a gallon of 30% nitro a gallon of gas is under 3 bucks.

If you get an onboard generator there will be no need to charge anything. If your TX will go for 6 hours so will the heli,,just keep filling her up and go!!

If you arn't into the Fly it Like you Hate it style of nitro flying and are more into gracefull moves that people can actually see then you'll love gassers. There are now some gassers that are approaching the nitro power level too.
I flew nitro alot and bought a used gasser to see what all the fuss was about. My nitro hasnt flown in a few years now. Now gassers are all I fly and the smaller electrics.
There are some real experts on this forum that know far more than I and am sure they will chime in.

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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01-24-2010 05:59 PM  8 years agoPost 4
imnxtc

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How much flight time are you all getting from these gas heli's,
With a 1650 head speed on my G231 powered Century Predator, I get a bit over 45 minutes. With an 1850 head speed for better 3D. I get 30 minutes.
Is the maintenance up keep difficult.
Like any other type, that will depend on the model you choose. I have had a number of different gas powered helis over the years and I find my Predator to be the one that required the least maintenance. About the only component I have replaced after over 250 fights are some ball links.
Does it get covered with that oily stuff after flying
They stay very clean over many flights. Almost as clean as an electric.

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01-25-2010 04:05 AM  8 years agoPost 5
rbort

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Good answers
Looks like some good guys here responded, well done So do you have a particular gasser in mind?

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4195 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3266 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1533 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 380 flts

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01-25-2010 04:34 AM  8 years agoPost 6
raynman

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I do ..... Im converting my rjx X90 nitro to a Gasser.

Reading all the stuff on here ...... I'm very excited1

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01-25-2010 05:34 PM  8 years agoPost 7
rbort

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Cool!
Gassers are really great in my opinion. They give you the time to fly and practice so you don't have to keep landing to refuel. They stay clean and you can clean whatever "mess" they make with one damp paper towel, compared to about 10 for a nitro. They are cheap to operate, and these cost savings will pay you back for a fund that you can use to make repairs or upgrades.

Good luck I'm sure once you get into it and get the hang of it you'll be in love! Many people always say you don't have the power of a nitro with a gasser, but fly a gasser long enough and you learn to deal with whatever power you have and enjoy it just the same. After a while you won't even know the difference, as you'll be 3Ding it and finding that you can do all the moves maybe not as fast but precise and repeatable.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4195 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3266 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1533 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 380 flts

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01-25-2010 07:53 PM  8 years agoPost 8
chopper_crazy

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Delphos, Ohio

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I have flown several nitros and electric machines over the past couple of years. Last year, I bought a MA Spectra G and loved it so much that I just picked up a Century Radikal last week. I can't wait to start the build.

It's a complex, costly, glow powered anti-gravity machine!

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01-25-2010 08:01 PM  8 years agoPost 9
raynman

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Lyall Bay - Wgtn - N.Z

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I've got 15ltrs niro to burn - Then hello Gasser - All I have to do is replace the frames on my rjx X90 - done .......
Cant wait to experience the Gasser Buzzzzzz .......

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01-26-2010 01:59 AM  8 years agoPost 10
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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Plano, Texas

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Are there premade frames you're going to use, or are you going to do a DIY conversion?

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01-26-2010 02:27 AM  8 years agoPost 11
raynman

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Pre made frames - There is actually an RJX Gasser on the market - I have the 90 nitro version - so all there is to convert is the frame set ...... mean aye

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01-27-2010 12:53 AM  8 years agoPost 12
FLAME747

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KATY, TX - USA

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Hi All,

I was thinking about getting the new Avant E that’s supposed to be released soon, but right now I am looking for longer flight time, and don’t want to invest a lot of money in several battery packs, so gas sounds pretty good.

So far I am focusing on the Century Radikal G20 – so I have a few questions

What’s the difference between the HD & LT model?

Which frame is stronger Carbon or G10?

Which starting system is more reliable – Hex, Pull, Electric?

I am still doing research, so I am pretty sure I will have a lot more questions

Thanks

FCA

JR X9503.Trex 450 Sport Modified by NightFlyr – Call Sign “MidNight Cowboy”, JR 287MG on Cyclic, Fut

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01-27-2010 01:21 AM  8 years agoPost 13
Justin Stuart (RIP)

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E-Aurora? Good luck with that. You'll be waiting awhile it seems.

Avant RC
Scorpion Power Systems
Thunder Power RC
Kontronik Drives

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01-27-2010 01:27 AM  8 years agoPost 14
rccarguy

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Boston MA

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What’s the difference between the HD & LT model?
Essentially the rotor head, the HD uses a Predator head designed for use with 690mm and larger blades, the LT uses a 50 size head similar to the one found on the NX50 but using a 1 mm larger spindle shaft (7mm). For anything other than AP or use requiring lifting a payload, you want the LT version.
Which frame is stronger Carbon or G10?
I have the G10 version and can attest to the fact that it's plenty strong in "unanticipated landing events", don't ask...
Which starting system is more reliable – Hex, Pull, Electric?
For simplicity and minimal gear required you can't beat a pull start. I started out using the hex drive with Dynatron starter on my Radikal and quickly found that it takes serious power to turn the G20 engine especially when cold. You'll need either a 24 volt setup or connect to a car battery to get the engine to spin, 12 volts on a gel cell just doesn't have the juice to turn it over. I now use a pull start and it works every time with minimal fuss. Carry the heli out to the flight line, power up the RX and ignition, a couple pulls on the starter rope and it's time to fly

HTH...

XCell Spectra G
Radikal G20
Some obsolete nitro helis too...

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01-27-2010 01:46 AM  8 years agoPost 15
rotaryfalcon

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I have a Hobbico starter on 14 cells that easily cranks my 231 in a Preadator. I much prefer it to hand starting. A G-20 would be no problem.

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02-01-2010 05:16 AM  8 years agoPost 16
FLAME747

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Which gasser model would be best suited for a newbie, I would like to stay under 1K for the kit with engine.

As for the servos, and electronics please give advise also

Thanks

FCA

JR X9503.Trex 450 Sport Modified by NightFlyr – Call Sign “MidNight Cowboy”, JR 287MG on Cyclic, Fut

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02-05-2010 12:31 AM  8 years agoPost 17
FLAME747

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Ok guys - look like I will settle on the Radikal G20 - What engine are you all using, can't decide between the Zenoah 23cc Gas Modified Engine [url=http://www.centuryheli.com/products/productdetail.htm?prtnm=Z231HB¤tid=460] or the Zenoah 26cc BH Hanson Modified Pro Gas Heli Engine [url=http://www.centuryheli.com/products/productdetail.htm?prtnm=Z260HP¤tid=460] or should I go with a different brand

I am looking for something that will not bog down during 3D, Inverted flight...

Thanks

FCA

JR X9503.Trex 450 Sport Modified by NightFlyr – Call Sign “MidNight Cowboy”, JR 287MG on Cyclic, Fut

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02-05-2010 12:44 AM  8 years agoPost 18
copperclad

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NY

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Hi
the Radikal is designed for the Zenoah G-20 ei

the G-231 and the G-26 are both too large , and will not fit in the frame of the Radikal

Century does make a larger machine that is designed for the larger engines though

here is a link to Centurys PREDATOR GASSER NX V2.0, G10, with Zenoah G231 ENGINE
http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=9511

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02-05-2010 01:59 AM  8 years agoPost 19
rbort

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Copperclad is correct
am looking for something that will not bog down during 3D, Inverted flight...
None of the gassers will bog down if you collective manage properly, and all of them will (even nitros) if you don't.

That statement, of course, is within reason but meant to mean that any of the gassers will fly 3D and inverted with no issues.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4195 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3266 flts
Whiplash V1-2 Hanson 300, 1533 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 380 flts

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03-08-2010 05:49 PM  8 years agoPost 20
FLAME747

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KATY, TX - USA

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How type of radio are you guys using.

how many channels in total will I need for to operate a gasser with all of the standard electronics & HeliCommand

Thanks

FCA

JR X9503.Trex 450 Sport Modified by NightFlyr – Call Sign “MidNight Cowboy”, JR 287MG on Cyclic, Fut

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