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01-25-2010 05:04 AM  8 years agoPost 21
rocco.sj

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Testing not over yet!!
Hey everyone,our testing and reviews are not over yet. Well will do a testing perspective point of views on all levels of pilots,starting from a newbie,to intermediate and to the advance level. Stay tuned once again and hopefully this information and videos will be a good experiance for eveyone!. Thank you.

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01-25-2010 03:36 PM  8 years agoPost 22
BPINE

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Does that mean I get to fly it TOOOOOOO.

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01-25-2010 04:21 PM  8 years agoPost 23
Melnic

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From the look of those photos with the controller box mounted at an angle, are all 3 sensors in the smaller Tail gyro looking box?

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01-25-2010 06:17 PM  8 years agoPost 24
steph280

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yes all sensors are in the single cube.

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01-29-2010 12:19 AM  8 years agoPost 25
rocco.sj

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Hey Bpine,good job on building your FLB on your T600. I hope you enjoy it more then your flybar'd heli's.

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02-21-2010 01:55 PM  8 years agoPost 26
Raptorz499

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Anymore updates?!?!

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02-21-2010 08:56 PM  7 years agoPost 27
rocco.sj

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Raptorz499
We ran into a minor problem with the 3G but nothing extremely serious. We will still post more updates and continue to review the 3G FLB units with the Trex 250,450,500 and the 600. As for now,our testing is in halt due to weather we're having here in northern california.

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02-24-2010 05:29 PM  7 years agoPost 28
rocco.sj

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Hello everyone!,For those who have the 3G FLB unit and wants to post a thread or videos with there own experiance, please do so in this thread so others can benifit from any issues or non issues at all!. The 3G FBL unit is still in it's first phase and i'm pretty sure align company always comes back and make things better. Remember this not a bashing thread,it's basically an info guide to better RC pilot's out there that are beginners or more advance. Thank You!.

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Ray F.

PS. Electric helis only!!.

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02-24-2010 06:28 PM  7 years agoPost 29
danieldouville

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killer write up!
onthesnap, you should be a writer! excellent work, and thats coming from a public school teacher!!
i loved your approach and disclaimers, very approachable and readable. My experience has been very similar to your write up, i agree on everything, i had slight trim issue (my mechanical slackerdom), bobble in elevator tic toc, (gain work), tail issues, autos (but no rabbit ears on mine), even had the same feelings with regards to comparisons with the vbar!

lets all hope that the usb adaptor and updates give us the pre-torque comp and parameter adjustments we all want in this system!!

Omnidirection shocks and pursuades my soul to ignite

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02-25-2010 04:08 AM  7 years agoPost 30
OnTheSnap

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Thanks Daniel! It was a ton of fun being one of the first "normal" guys to try out the system.

Since then, I've done a ton of autos with the 3g, and it performs them very well. The thing to keep in mind is that the system tries to maintain the same cyclic rates even at slower headspeeds. So you have to retrain yourself to make small corrections when you touch down. I've also found that it's best if you land with some headspeed instead of just bleeding it off. This helps prevent any tendency to tip over.

I'm in the process of moving the system to my 450 pro to see how well it performs on a smaller heli. I'll post my thoughts here. I like to auto the 450 as well, so it'll be fun to see how it performs there.

I'm looking forward to the release of the USB cable. Hopefully I can get one in my hands soon so I can try and find tune a few things. I'm curious to see how much polish Align has on the software interface. As far as I know, Align hasn't released any PC software before. So this should be an interesting experience.

With vBar releasing a PnP kit with the option to convert it into a full vBar, Align has some serious competition in this space. If Align can release software that appeals to nerds like me, then Mikado has a bigger problem then it realizes.

MSH USA -- Cyclone -- Jeti -- Xnova

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02-25-2010 04:55 AM  7 years agoPost 31
rocco.sj

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Don't worry alex,you got one(USB link) coming next week!!

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02-26-2010 04:57 AM  7 years agoPost 32
coptereddie

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Outstanding write up OnTheSnap!
OTN:

Good write up! I was fortunate enough to pick one of these up for a great price (a friend owed me a favor! ) and I just installed it so I can see how it preforms...

You said programming was easier with the V-bar - the reason I settled on this one was the 3 axis setup, and it appeared that it was a snap (excuse the pun) to program. As this is my first one I wanted something I can ease into.

Questions:

How easy was it to set the tail - I have not heard anything about this?

Did you try the Dual rate option that Eury suggested - Interested?

For a first timer, like myself do you recommend this one - or moving to another option (SK or V-bar)?

Thanks so very much!

Edwin

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02-26-2010 05:58 AM  7 years agoPost 33
OnTheSnap

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Hi Edwin,
My view on ease of programming is rather skewed. I'm a really technical person doing geeky things every day. vBar has come a very long ways since early software releases, and I really don't think it should be a barrier for anyone interested. Most of the time you can just get a buddies configuration file and start from there. They do a good job of hiding complexity while providing a way for advance users to still access these settings.

Anyway, enough about vbar. The 3g's approach is software free, so it relies more on proper mechanical setup and radio settings to get things right. Because of this approach, it gives up a lot of flexibility, but for most of us the out of box experience is excellent anyway.

So if you're computer savvy, you'll feel right at home with the vBar. If not, the 3g setup will appeal more to you.

The tail setup is very simple, and similar to other high end gyros where you use the stick to program direction and limits. The instructions are well written, and I don't think you'll have any problem. Just make sure you don't have the tail servo plugged in until you set the frame rate properly so you don't burn it out.

I hate expo and dual rates. I really like my heli's super twitchy. I also hate changing the way a heli flies for any reason. So I just adapted to how the 3g autos instead of messing around.

Also, if you're flying a big heli (600 or larger), consider rigging up an external power bus for at least 2 of the cyclic servos. Having a single connection with a 3A connector and 22 gauge wire makes me quite nervous. Also check the quality of the crimps on your gyro connector.

So I think you have a great system, and there is no need to go run out and buy a vBar. After you fly FBL for a while you'll find yourself wanting to convert the rest of your fleet. My final flybar heli is about to be converted. When this day comes, you may want to try something different like a vbar or SK720 just to experiment and have some fun trying something new.

MSH USA -- Cyclone -- Jeti -- Xnova

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02-26-2010 04:14 PM  7 years agoPost 34
Melnic

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Does the Align 500 FBL mechanics use the same feathering shaft, bearings & dampers as the regular 500?

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02-26-2010 06:59 PM  7 years agoPost 35
rocco.sj

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Everything on the 500FLB rotor head(bearings,feathering shaft,rotor grips,etc,etc..)is pretty much the same as the original 500 rotor head. They are interchangeable and should be no problems.The only slight difference they have changed was the swash ball links on the swash plate.They are alot bigger and beefier.So i would recommend getting the new swash ball link for the new 3G unit.
http://www.alignrcusa.com/index.php...roducts_id=1526
http://www.alignrcusa.com/index.php...roducts_id=1537

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Ray F.

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02-26-2010 07:09 PM  7 years agoPost 36
DWS6

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cant be completely the same, the delta offset on the grips is different, right?

Dave Williams
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03-16-2010 05:04 AM  7 years agoPost 37
rocco.sj

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Sorry dave for not responding back to you quicker!. As for the delta offset on the main grips,yes they are little off by millimeters. I'm gussing the ball link for the T500 that is coming out soon should take care of that issue.
http://www.alignrcusa.com/index.php...roducts_id=1537
As for the bobble in the rotor head?.Edged FLB main blades should minimized that issue due to the CG of the main blades,it's best suited for the FLB 3G unit. We will post some videos this weekend inregards of the bobbling ,and other small issues people have in mind?.

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