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01-20-2010 08:27 PM  8 years agoPost 1
QuantumPSI

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So, at some point this year, I'd really like to get a vbar logo 600. I'm curious to know how much it would be to get a complete setup minus Tx. Including at least 2 sets of batteries and a charger and powersupply (I'm a nitro guy and so I don't have a high power charger). I'm not looking for insane power, but clearly I want the power of an electric. I really like Kyle Dahl's power set up (whatever it may be). It looks like it has very good power, he gets 5+ minutes of flying time, and it just looks like a great machine in the air. Not too light, not too heavy, and just the right amount of power. So, how much we talkin here? Servos, motor, vbar, batteries, etc. The works! Thanks!

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part

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01-20-2010 10:58 PM  8 years agoPost 2
MTBSuspEng

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I'd say if your looking for a top shelf setup you'll be pushing $3000, especially if you need a charger and power supply. I lost count on my recent build but I'm sure I was easily over $2500 minus charger and power supply. Granted I went for the works; Vbar + Bluetooth, Kontroniks, Xera, 4000 mah 10s, BLS251, JR8717, Edge, ect. You could probably find something used for $2000ish, and if Mikado announces a new 700 in Feb there should be plenty of lightly used 600 airframes for sale. Keep in mind most people are building their logo's as monsters, 10-12s birds with more then enough power for a 700 sized heli at a lot less weight. I love mine and will probably be trading up when/if a logo 700 become available.

Trex 700e VBar 5.0, BT, Radix, 1917h, Jive, 8717, BLS251
500 ESP Mini V-Bar, MSR

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01-20-2010 11:28 PM  8 years agoPost 3
Blades345

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Its definitely going to be pricey. I added everything up on mine including batteries and chargers and mine is over $2000 so I can tell you now it won't be cheap, but it will be worth it.

When u don't feel like soaring through the air with a plane, beat it into submission w/ a heli!

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01-21-2010 03:27 AM  8 years agoPost 4
SGrim80

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I paid $2,185 for my Logo 600 (no charging equipment or batteries) and it put the biggest damn smile on my face I ever had flying a helicopter. Its not just the "I spent so much on this thing I have to like it" thing either.

DO IT! You won't regret it.

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01-21-2010 03:41 AM  8 years agoPost 5
QuantumPSI

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Yeah I know it's going to be up there, but I just wanted to know just HOW HIGH it would be.

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part

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01-21-2010 04:30 AM  8 years agoPost 6
jphilli

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Mikel, just sell one of those slimers you're holding on to. It'll be much more fun.

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01-21-2010 04:32 AM  8 years agoPost 7
QuantumPSI

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BLASPHEMY!

Off with his head I say

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
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01-21-2010 04:43 AM  8 years agoPost 8
rocco.sj

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$2500 Budget will get you going including the batteries and charger. Go to http://www.readyheli.com and calculate the kit and electronics on there site. On the batteries if you're not too picky i would invest on the hobby city lipo batteries. The 30c 5000mah will go for about $63 bucks which is a good batteries if i might say. http://www.hobbycity.com .Now if you want the high end stuff,that's a different story!. A high end electronics and batteries and charger will range about per say $3000 to $3500.

JR Americas
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01-21-2010 06:32 AM  8 years agoPost 9
dahld

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Here's one version that will get you in the air with quality, very high performance and style:

Kit: Logo 600 V-Bar kit with painted canopy - 1023
Motor: Scorpion 4035-560 - 170
Pinion: 18 tooth (stock mod .7 gears) - 20
ESC: Kontronik 80HV - 400
Kontronik heatsink - 7
Kontronik slave BEC cable - 15
Servos: JR (X3 8717's and X1 8900G) - 560
Main blades: Edge 603mm flybarless - 90
Tail blades: Edge 95mm - 28
Connectors: 4mm bullets for batteries, ESC and charger - 20
Batteries: Thunder Power (X2 10S 4400 45C ) - 840
Charger and Balancer: 200-300 for a high quality, high wattage version.
Power Supply: Pick your poison. Worst case - 200

Total not counting the two batteries - 2833
The reason I'm not including batteries, is because you have to look at them as fuel costs. When the nitro guys figure the cost of a set-up, they don't add in the cost of a years worth of fuel and glow plugs.

But with the batteries (which was your original question) - 3673

This set-up is about as good as it gets. Substitute stuff as you see fit .

Dave

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01-21-2010 07:02 AM  8 years agoPost 10
rocco.sj

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Hey dave,you forgot the the extened rx for the v-bar.LOL(2x$30)-$60.Grand Total $3733 with no tax included yet.Wow! That's alot of cash!. But no pain no gain,right!.

JR Americas
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01-21-2010 07:59 AM  8 years agoPost 11
PeterMa

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Logo 600 for the rest of us :-)

Logo 600 bought used but never flown w/ flybarred and VBared Head (but no VBar Electronics), Kontronik Jazz 55-10-32, Actro 24-4, Radix 600mm, 9254 $980
401 $120
3 x 9252 $240
12S A123 off Ebay $120
Power Supply (PC PS converted) $40
Charger Hyperion EOS1210i (now available for $150)
Receiver power supply 2s Lipo with Emcotec regulator $70

Total $1620.

I later traded the Actro Motor with an Kontronik Tango 45-06. Flight-time is around 5 min and recharging at the field takes 25 min.

Obviously, this setup is not for the power-hungry, but it's great for my flying style and it puts a smile in my face... Still flying with flybar, but eventually will move the V-Bar Electronics from my Logo 400 to the 600.

Peter

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01-21-2010 03:33 PM  8 years agoPost 12
Jag72

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Flybarred logo 600..
I didn't think flybarred logo 600's actually existed

and a 401 to boot...LOL...now that is just wrong...

you need to go flybarless PeterMa...you'd be surprised at the performance improvement...

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01-21-2010 03:45 PM  8 years agoPost 13
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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How about this one for $1800??
https://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/t565288p1/

Everything except the charger and lipos. So you will be at ~$2300-$2500

Team MikadoUSA 480XXTreme, 550SX, 600SX, 700XXTreme, 800XXTreme!!

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01-21-2010 04:11 PM  8 years agoPost 14
Blades345

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Its funny, but the flybarred Logo seems rare. I barely see any flybarred Logos out there. I would guess that 80% of Logos out there are FBL, but I am going by pictures and what I've read. FBL is the way to go and man is it the best.

When u don't feel like soaring through the air with a plane, beat it into submission w/ a heli!

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01-21-2010 04:13 PM  8 years agoPost 15
kirk

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laughingstill
Thanks for the link to my for sale add. This heli was bought from Jag72 and has top of the line equiptment. I am open to reasonable offers so if anyone wants it please PM me with one...

Thanks again!!
Kirk

Proud to have over 13 pages of Good Guy feedback.

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01-21-2010 04:27 PM  8 years agoPost 16
Jag72

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Flybarless
Flybarless is the ONLY way to go

Kirk...that heli is a very nice one for sure...glad you managed to keep it in one piece...

Not that I am a flybarless snob...but I only fly flybarless these days...

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01-21-2010 06:59 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Tday

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The way I look at it, a vbar ship generally speaking costs about $200 more than a comparably equipped flybarred ship. $475 for the vbar controller less $160 for a top of line gyro you don't need less $100 for a receiver you don't need (yes, you need 2 satellites so that's why it's only $100). A nitro will have a motor, governor, and muffler ($550 plus governor)...and the equivalent cost on electrics is motor and high end esc/governor/bec (~$570). The cost per flight of fuel varies with heli size, but it looks like David has about 600 flights of fuel for $840 or $1.40 per flight.

Kit prices vary, naturally, but the kit portion in this case is $550 and it last a really long time with very little to actually break. David Dahl describes maintenance as a belt and dampeners every 100 flights and an occasional inner grip bearing. He's had a heli for over 1700 flights. I've not been so lucky as gravity seems to intervene.

Tom

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01-21-2010 07:30 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Big Fil

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QuantamPSI

As you can see there are multiple ways to skin a cat. Being familiar with Kyle's setup I came up with some numbers that I think will give you a good idea. Figure $3500 plus or minus $400 to stay within the same tier of electronics he is using. That number takes into account everything you'd need minus the TX. About $1000 of that figure is batteries, charger, and power supply.

Of course if budget is a concern and your willing to step down a tier in components (real or percieved....another thread really) you can probably shave another $500-800 off that number fairly easily.

Hope this along with the other posts helps give you an idea. If you want the complete list I worked off I can post it and show where $$'s can be added or subtracted. It was very close to Dave's list but I did everything based off what could be purchased at RH.

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01-21-2010 07:43 PM  8 years agoPost 19
QuantumPSI

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All of this is great information everyone and is exactly what I was looking for. I can't afford this heli now but when I get a real job, I plan on saving for it and giving myself a mini christmas with it!

...now where was I, dh/dt = BS-dx/dt
I will fly you forever... till earth do us part

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02-04-2010 02:27 AM  8 years agoPost 20
neavissa

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I am a total beginner to helis. i have a belt cp pro 2 and know how to "fly" it, that's it. (been doing planes for a while though)
i was asking myself the same question:
how much is it gonna cost me and should i as a beginner, go FBL??? The answer is simple: WHY NOT?
Almost everyone is listing the best of the best and makes it sound like that you have to go that way, or you wont enjoy your bird! if that is the case, i have a simple question for you:
do you drive the best car ever made?
do you live in a $40 million penthouse?
do you have 300 foot super yacht?

and so on. i am sure i made my point. i really doubt that you need to have the best available equipment to make this thing fly/have fun with it! $300-400 for batteries?! why? are you competing, sure. if not, not necessary at all! it would be nice if someone would have pointed that out...

thanks,
G

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