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2010 IRCHA JamboreeAug 11, 2010 Wed-Thu-Fri-Sat-Sun

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08-15-2010 08:17 PM  7 years agoPost 421
Hayes

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Moab, Utah

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Its really hard to know where to begin with this event ... my first time. I am an average joe pilot that made an 18 hr drive to the event, some travelled from farther, some less.
The first day there seemed pretty exciting to get out and fly with guys who share the same passion and hobby. I put in a flight or two when I could if I could get inbetween the team pilots (at least 8 strong) as they dominated almost every flight station. There were alot of impressive helicopters and pilots around but from my perspective it became apparent the essence of a funfly where friends flew together hung out and talked about all from wrecks, new manouvers, wrenching techniques, new products etc was being lost to commercialism.
Second day was a bit brighter once the storm from the previous day had cleared out, again managed to squeeze a couple of flights in and a little more intimidated by the skills of the factory pilots flying endless hours of pop, lock, drop, "hit the deck, lets hear some noise WORD" flying that got old, just wish to have seen more of us average joes out there having fun. There were many vendors there, some of which I overheard saying they wont be attending again. one vendor remaining nameless argued internally and openly about their lack of interest to sell, another tired of being chiseled and hampered for better pricing in a market that has little profit. To note several vendors never even showed up to fill their booths.
As we entered the weekend I had a sense of just wanting to be at our personal local funflies where friends have character and are not machines driven by names on shirts or numbers of thise shirts. Where we give to organisations and the more we give the more people want to come and be apart of giving to those that suffer.
The multiple sclerosis society received donations from the jamboree but personally what it took to raise that raised questions to me on a firework display that must have cost $25,000.00 + yet could have been halved and the difference given to the same cause with pride from genuine people.
As saturday began I had no desire to fly the flight line was again swarmed with team pilots, infact if the electric machines were removed there is still a dominating presence of nitro machines contrary to hear say in the electrics being the future. As the grand finale approached our group did not want to stay another night and decided to just head for home.
When the raffle was announced there was mention of a registered pilot count of 960 most of which were vendors and their helpers, my guess for pilots that actually attended and flew was probably closer to 300 nonetheless the total count is still lower than last year which if I am correct was around 1004 registered pilots.
Im just a guy saying it how I see it to conclude there were moments of fun but it wasnt commercialism. I won't go again if it's just for the show.

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08-15-2010 08:57 PM  7 years agoPost 422
merlin3

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hmm, quit an amazing post since most of it is completely opposite view of me and everyone I know. Also you are off on last years pilot count. This year was just another great ircha, I'm just an average joe as you say and there were no problems like you mentioned. It sounds to me like you more of just intimidated, you need to just not care what other people think and go out and fly. I don't know you can complain about an event that raised 11k for ms and say that they could have done more. Have you raised more for ms? If you don't feel like going out and actually socializing at ircha then don't come. You'd be surprised how many of thos "pro" pilot will actually be helpful and friendly to you if you are nice to them. Either way I'm guessing the pilot count at next years ircha will get even higher.

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08-15-2010 09:41 PM  7 years agoPost 423
AltecLansing

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I did have a good time there. I didn't fly as much as I wanted, but that's okay. I got to socialize, meet new people, learn of new vendors, see some great demos, met the avant girls, outrage girls, and smack talk girls, saw new items and got a chance to get away from the house and from work.

I do agree about the team pilots bunching up at some of the flight stations. It seemed they would travel far away from their tents, even passing open stations to fly on the end. I wonder why? And those on the end who didn't have a golf cart experienced a long line to fly when that happened or had to travel away from their tents by shuttle or foot to fly. If you walked the entire flight line you can see how you would choose not to fly, if you had to walk away from your tent.

And as for the golf cart rentals, they wouldn't rent a golf cart at a one or two day price, they charged you for the entire event time, even if you only used it for one day. So, that kind of discouraged us from renting a golf cart for 1.5 days of field time.

Would I go again? Probably. Its just the 12.5 hours to get there that I can do without.

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08-15-2010 09:56 PM  7 years agoPost 424
RyeGuy83

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Last year's count was around 960 or so. It's about the same as we did this year. As a volunteer for the event, I have to agree with Merlin about the flightline. I have volunteered for a few years now, and there are plenty of spots open. I can assure you that the east end of the flightline was open almost all of the time. With few exceptions of RC Heli Resource Team and Mikado once or twice to do a demo testing. We as volunteers on the flightline actually have golf carts that act as taxis to help bring pilots to open or low-numbered stations. I even had a few pilots ask me which stations people haven't crashed at yet to make sure they weren't Hexed or anything. You know how pilots are with their superstitions and what not.

I am an average joe flyer who actually didn't fly that much this year as I volunteered 16 hours of my time to help out around the AMA Grounds. Just so you all know, there were more boxes setup on the far east side, you could fly at Site 3 (hovering at setup clinic, FAI on the runways, or 3d on the east side) and at Site 5 (anything you want). And yes, there were shuttle buses that could take you to any of these locations every 15 minutes or less. Not many people were using them this year.

I am sorry for those who didn't have a good time this year. I am quite surprised that there definitely were some vendors that happened to not show up at all. Rather disappointed with that fact. But there are lots of good people to meet there and fly with. I met a group of guys last year at this event and ended up staying with them all this year. We had about a dozen or so of us that shared an RV space / tents over at Site 3 (the runways). A couple of them even helped me solder up some LEDs so I can nightfly with them.

If you see someone driving a golf cart with little orange flags on them, hollar at them for a ride. They are there to shuttle you back and forth and enforce AMA / IRCHA guidelines for the event. If you can't find a station, ask them which ones are free. If someone isn't taking turns in the proper fashion, let someone know. It will definitely be taken care of with authority. There are TONS of events to attend / watch, and lots of things you can learn. If it wasn't for this event, I wouldn't know 1/2 of what I do now.

And as someone mentioned previously, a lot of the "Pros" will definitely be more than willing to help you out. I got together with Bobby Watts and Jack Burnside last year to talk about the Gaui 425 (Which is the night-bird I spoke about previously) and talked with Nick Maxwell at NATS (He placed 2nd I Believe) about his flying style and how is machine (The new ENV) is put together (electronics, motor, etc.) They might be sponsored pilots and seem like Heli Celebrities, but they are still just people. People who fly very well and take the hobby seriously.

I would also like to thank all of the volunteers for their work this year (The ones who showed up to their shifts anyway). If it wasn't for all of you, the event wouldn't be possible. Thanks again to Bobby Watts who gave his $7000 to MS. Great Job! If anyone decides to join the event next year that had a bad experience this year, feel free to contact me with any questions that can make your experience next year more enjoyable. I do not take complaints... only questions. BTW.. I do not work for IRCHA, AMA, or any other Company affiliated with the R/C Hobby.

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08-15-2010 10:23 PM  7 years agoPost 425
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I thought it was a great time. It got a little boring and annoying with HOW MUCH time they took in between calling numbers when it came to the raffle and I got REALLY annoyed with the whole "if you don't yell and make noise they won't get on the deck" things. I think the flight will be rewarded with applause and such afterwards and should be left there but that's my opinion.

Regardless, none of that left a "bad taste" in my mouth. It's a huge event with flying buddies around, places to go, good food to eat, and all of this on top of flying. The friends I was hanging out with went flying several times and didn't have any huge issues.

This was my first year as well and I already am looking forward to next year.

I got to meet the Outrage girls as well as come home with one heck of a haul.

Regards, Brandon Bartolomucci; Team Synergy; Team Scorpion; & Team Bavarian Demon; AMA# L939231

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08-16-2010 12:01 AM  7 years agoPost 426
RyeGuy83

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Due to Runryder's low upload rate, I decided to post photos to another site and link them instead. Feel free to check them out.

IRCHA 2010 Pics

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08-16-2010 12:28 AM  7 years agoPost 427
kcordell

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For several years now, as this event has gotten very large, finding flying time can be interesting. Now, if you really want to go to this event to just fly, go over to site 3 (Stage Center, main RV site). There were many flight stations set up over there, not many using them and all kinds of flying going on. We went over there every day for an hour or so as we knew we could get some good flying in, not worrying about encroaching on someone else's airspace, and having fun. If seeing friends, making new friends, seeing the top pilots, seeing and talking to vendors is your cup of tea, the main flight line is the place to be, but do you really need to spend 13 hours there every day? If you are an early riser, plenty of flying stations available from about 6:30AM (sunrise and some fog) until about 8AM everyday. And this year with the high quantity of golf carts, easy enough to get around the entire site. On Friday, Saturday, you could have gone over to the "L Pad" (little blue pavilion farthest away from the IRCHA main site) and flown all day by yourself (we actually spent some time over there because we could really fly around without bothering anybody. And of course, if you stay for Sunday, the main flight line is deserted.

Team Futaba, Team Synergy/Rail, Team Scorpion, Team Castle Creations, YS Engines, VelTye

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08-16-2010 01:09 AM  7 years agoPost 428
Frank Bostwick

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Some interesting and unexpected responses to the event. Ok Ill throw in my opinions. IRCHA virgin here, intermediate pilot.
I got to go last second and spent Wens. night thru the Give aways.
I was a little disappointed I was so personally unprepared only 1 of 4 ready for the flight line and pretty disorganised in the camping kit department, but thats neither here nor their I guess.

It was amazing to see so many talented pilots throw down.
Thats the number one reason for my attendance and I was not disappointed.

Generally I think it was a moderately well run event. We all have room for improvement. The staff was as friendly as you will find anywhere.
I salute and thank them.

Every day at day break and every night as I went to sleep the sound of rotors spinning was close at hand. Priceless. In the late evening
when what ever breeze was blowing gave up the ghost, the smoke was so thick you could see it fairly heavy in the car head lights as the Hotel bound guys hit the road. If you were a camper, you were a Nitro smoker like it or not. (for the record I liked it)

The SWARM guys need to be Thanked and commended. What a fun time. The hard work of many was in plain sight for all to see and no way that party was cheap. Guys have fewer gallons or fewer batteries because they paid for that great party and fun time.

Night flying is just TFC. And I am sorry to note the passing of at least 4 helis Friday night. The last one a duzzy on a nice bird. We have all been there before. Break out the cash guys.

I flew once because I was not going to go to IRCHA and not fly. I freely admit I was intimidated by the skill evident up and down the line. Im 48y/o and have not felt intimidated since my collage years during some football after parties involving the police but thats another story....

I was impressed with the AMA site. Its freakin huge and nicely kept. Ill be back for other weekends full of flight. I cant believe more weekends of guys just camping out and burning fuel dont happen. Like a quarterly fun fly. The miles of flight line just have to under utilised.....Id be happy to drive the 150 miles a few times per year.

I will not give away my personal "gold secret" but very comfortable showers are available on site. What a treat for a tent camper!

As a former assistant scout master Id like to give a shout out to Troop 25 for a fine job with the food. When I placed my lunch order and asked different scouts the scout oath the and Law, I was given an accurate and complete response but still gave em a hard time as old habits die hard. Good job guys I hope you made some good money for whatever adventure your troop is planning.

I too was kind of turned off by the constant and high pressure applied to the sponsored pilots to smack it down on the deck. I understand and agree that that stuff is exciting but enough is enough, and to encourage crashing, come on, that just aint right. There was a lot of amazing flight over 10 feet high that was awesome. I had no problem with the DJs' style but think the emphasis should be on impressive flight at all altitudes and not just with the rotors or tail blades blowing cut grass. A side note I was also turned off by the give aways during a guys flight. Cant we have some respect for the skill and hours of hard work being represented. I know time is always an issue but let me watch the flight will ya? Im too greedy not to try to score some of the major stuff the was tossed (um too short to get any either).

Golf Carts. I sure can see the need and was thankful to get a ride with my case of 30%, both to and from the trailer, especially since my camp was 150 yards past the last Portapotty on the EAST end of the line. Im also, IMO, not overly safety conscious. All that said its a matter of time before the EMS is gonna have problem on their hands. I also dont consider myself some ole' curmudgeon, but will note that a very large majority of the "close Calls" some very close, had non licenced (for cars) drivers. Potential liability would be cut by at least 1/3 if not half by instituting an age limit for driving at this very crowded event. Not gonna fight this out those are just my observations. Not against young ATVers or young pilots or young whatever. Just stating what I saw with my eyes.

Speaking of safety and I honestly hesitate to say this out loud. A heli 6' up headed at the flight line at 80MPH (this is for example only)........There were times that I felt..........I dont like the nets at all.........Ill be there watching next year, right up front. The view and experience is awesome, worth the minimal risk for me.......but..um....Time and risk have a habit of catching up.
'Nuff said.

The site is very underutilized. Like I said I was intimidated. I admit that I was not well prepared for 3 solid days of flying. But even if I was. I bet my cycles would still have been limited. I think it would be a great idea to use the other flight lines more. I know there were several events that happened on other lines but generally they were not well promoted. Id like to see other flight lines devoted to other skill levels. Perhaps attended by some sponsored guys. I know this, Im gonna work alot harder at being prepared next year and Im planning a lot of time on less populated flight lines. It would be great if 3-4 tents and some experienced guys were there too.

I know I saw a thread with this idea not long ago but Ill note it again. Visible RR screen names would be a good thing. Not everyone is Mr. out going. I have gotten to know and call friend many guys here on RR and Im sure I walked right by them many times over the last few days. To me thats a missed opportunity. Next year Im gonna do something, tee shirts, tags, something.

I thought there would be alot more and better "deals". Im a budget guy so I was just hoping, you know? I did get a great deal on a case of fuel but the best deal I found was at the Century tent. RotorTech 600s for $50? get outta a here!

Lastly and I say again Thank You to our hosts for a good job. Man the raffle needs some attention. I know on one hand its about talking up the folks who donated that what 20 grand worth of stuff? I have NO problem with that in any way. But "tedious" would be an understatement. Get 2 teams pulling tags. Once the winner is identified and moving, Call out another tag. Gonna do some ad lib pass outs? Spread the love baby! the east side scored pretty heavy. (I wandered all sides and was the guy with the well behaved dog). Do something to get it moving along! Dont get me wrong, I am very thankful for the whole deal. Those prises were off the hook. More is definitely better, just please move it along.

Over all my impression was very very positive. I had a great time and plan on attending next year and volunteering to help out.
Thank You IRCHA for a great event that is THE heli event in all the World.

RIP ROMAN

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08-16-2010 03:52 AM  7 years agoPost 429
Timbers

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A blast
Very hard to leave IRCHA this year it's always such a great time! I am happy to be home and clean and cool cause it was frickin HOT! IRCHA is getting so big it's unreal. I think we need to buy the farm fields to the sides so we can extend the flight line!

Thanks to everyone for their appreciation of the SWARM party that we throw every year. Me and a bunch of my friends do the party every year. It started as just a small gig for our group and now its turning into the Muncie County Fair! We really enjoy planning and cooking for everyone and watching people have a good time. I was happy at the end of the night when I shut my fryer down and joined the rest of you for a beer! Thanks to the guys who brought the jambalaya, the wine, and the guy who brought me the crab cakes to fry, those were a real hit with people! Thanks to everyone in our Wisconsin group, Joe the corn guy and Mike (Dialrotor) who helped organize and cook I hope we can continue doing this for years to come!!!!!

The fireworks show was probably one of the coolest things I've ever seen in my life. I'm sure it will keep evolving and getting even better in the years to come!

...Tim

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08-16-2010 04:22 AM  7 years agoPost 430
JJMAN (RIP)

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The drive home sucked, my heli's are trashed, my car is filthy, I'm tired as a dog, my wife is bitchin! BUT I HAD AN ABSOLUTE BLAST!

Everthing was just over the top and awesome, the flying, the vendors, the volunteers, the site, the food!

A special Thank You to all you guys that supplied, cooked and served the food Friday nite. Very tasty, that was some of the best corn on the cob I have ever tasted by the way, no butter required! I for one, really appreciated that, I know it was alot of work and expense.

JAY HIGGS

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08-16-2010 04:26 AM  7 years agoPost 431
RyeGuy83

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Tim. You are welcome for the jumbalaya on behalf of Gus and Timmy. I was camping with them all week long and the two of them took their time to make that stuff the best it could be. We all thought it was great, and the entire pot was gone by the end of the night.

Just so everyone knows.. you can fly pretty much at any site that is open and reserved by IRCHA for the week. As far as utilizing more spaces or flightlines... it would require a TON more volunteers to be out there watching them and making sure people are being safe. I don't know what the numbers were, but I know that there were quite a bit of volunteers who never showed up for their scheduled times. If you're going to volunteer... please make it a priority to be there. You make a commitment to helping out, and the IRCHA guys really need you to be there on time and in good spirits.

I also recommend that you fellow pilots attend the NATS for F3C, and the Class I thru Class III sections. There is definitely a lot more to flying (even competitions) than hardcore 3D. Even scale pilots have a NATS. Very smooth and elegant flying with super precision. I also know that the US World's Team is still looking for financial assistance to send our guys over to Italy next year. I would love to see us take the championship home for a 2nd time in a row.

I also have to give mad props to Nick Maxwell who did a very nice impromptu flight after the NATS Judging was over. It was an awesome blend of 3D and F3C maneuvers and EVERYONE was highly impressed. The F3C guys even told Nick.. "You better not suggest any of that crap as an official maneuver, or we'll have to kill you !" lol. It was very interesting to see a Cobra V with rolls and a flip mixed into it. Beautiful flying Nick... great job! And grats to Curtis Youngblood for taking 1st place.... again... for the 19th time. Sheesh !

CONGRATS TO ALL THE WINNERS FOR THE NATS, THE ONE CONTEST, DRAG RACES, AND THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE WHO PARTICIPATED IN THE EVENTS.

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08-16-2010 12:06 PM  7 years agoPost 432
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RAINBOW SPACEMAN!!!!!

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08-16-2010 03:18 PM  7 years agoPost 433
RyeGuy83

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The Models @ IRCHA
The girls wanted me to post up some of the pics that I took of them or with them. So Holly, Jessica, Jessica, Jade, Jordan, and everyone else... here they are.

Thank you ladies for making the week interesting again. Jessica and Jade... it was nice seeing you out there again this year.

Outrage

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08-16-2010 04:20 PM  7 years agoPost 434
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Nice work there RyeGuy This was my first IRCHA, but at least I was familiar with the site from having attended XFC for the first time this year as well. I will be going back to both events next year for sure, only next time, I am going to come in for the entire event and not just a 3 day weekend.

It was awesome to volunteer and work the flight line. It's a great way to meet a lot of people, see a lot of stuff, and be right in the middle of the action. I will be signing up for a lot more shifts next year for sure! I will again make myself available to whoever is heading up the volunteers to fill in whenever I can as needed. I got called in for the last shuttle shift and was glad to fill it.

I just can't get over how many people there can fly 3D! I suck! I can only do some basic FF, piros, and auto, though I throw a loop and roll in there, but they are not pretty. I really hope by next year I can get up on the flight line without looking like a total dope!

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08-16-2010 04:35 PM  7 years agoPost 435
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I just want to say that no one should feel like a dope or be intimidated about their skills. That's one of the things I love about the heli crowd. No one cares if you can't do the smack down 3D. No one is judging you and everyone was a beginner once. This hobby is all about having fun.

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08-16-2010 04:47 PM  7 years agoPost 436
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You are right about the heli crowd. I only felt like a dope because I am always hard on myself / need to give myself a push. Just an example of the wonderful heli community, I was flying on field 3 Friday afternoon sharing a box with a guy just sport flying a 700. Another guy with a Logo 600 elec came and joined us and blew us both away with the 3D he was doing, then he insisted one of us fly. My 500 was down, all I had was the 450 and put on a pretty lame show, but when I was done got lots of complements and encouragement from the guy doing mad 3D. I think my only descent manuver of the flight was the auto from 4' in some pretty gusty wind. I found everyone to be very positive and helpful, so newbys should not be afraid to come out and join in!

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08-16-2010 04:49 PM  7 years agoPost 437
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my 2nd year at IRCHA, had a great time. only thing was I left my starter out at one of the more eastward stations.

its a sullivan dynatron with the sullivan starter shaft, and an outrage 4s 2200 pack strapped to it. if anyone has It I would gladly pay shipping to get it back.

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08-16-2010 06:26 PM  7 years agoPost 438
dialarotor

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Sure it was hot
Just varying degrees of hotness. Hot pilots, hot helis, hot party, hot fireworks, hot vender chicks. Not so hot, Nightfly DJ, Rainbow Spaceman, great pilot and outfit, too bad DJ ruined it for the pilot.
Not so hot, lack of Porta pots on the East end of flight line and Site 5.
Hot, MIKADO, the helis, and Ralf and Inga, thanks for your extreme generosity with the Vbar units and that Grand Prize. Chris Bergen and Augusto you two out did yourselves with those grand prizes.

Not so hot, redneck nightflying. Love it but there should be a minimum of 3 Q-beam flashlights spread apart required and at least a single glowstick on the bird, scarey moments twice this year.

Did I sweat, you bet, definately a 3-t-shirts a day affair. Bet you see sweating towels with vendor names next year, like the little Align building towels, could have sold those from dawn to dusk.

Will I be back? Try keeping me away. Did I make friends? You bet.

Sort of a Blackeyed Peas things. "We had a good good week"

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08-16-2010 06:31 PM  7 years agoPost 439
Frank Bostwick

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And that fly over?
That was definitely TFC!!

RIP ROMAN

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08-16-2010 06:53 PM  7 years agoPost 440
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WOW, RAINBOW SPACEMAN*******

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