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12-31-2009 06:30 AM  7 years agoPost 1
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Ann Coulter: Ivana Trump Escorted Off Plane: Napolitano Declares 'The System Worked'

by Ann Coulter 12/30/2009

In response to a Nigerian Muslim trying to blow up a flight from Amsterdam to Detroit on Christmas Day, the government will now prohibit international travelers from going to the bathroom in the last hour before the plane lands.

Terrorists who plan to bomb planes during the first seven hours of the eight-hour flight, however, should face no difficulties, provided they wait until after the complimentary beverage service has been concluded.

How do they know Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab didn't wait until the end of the flight to try to detonate explosives because he heard the stewardess announce that the food service was over and seats would have to be placed in their upright position? I can't finish my snack? This plane is going down!

Also prohibited in the last hour of international flights will be: blankets, pillows, computers and in-flight entertainment. Another triumph in Janet Napolitano's "Let's stay one step behind the terrorists" policy!

For the past eight years, approximately 2 million Americans a day have been subjected to humiliating searches at airport security checkpoints, forced to remove their shoes and jackets, to open their computers, and to remove all liquids from their carry-on bags, except minuscule amounts in marked 3-ounce containers placed in Ziploc plastic bags -- folding sandwich bags are verboten -- among other indignities.

This, allegedly, was the price we had to pay for safe airplanes. The one security precaution the government refused to consider was to require extra screening for passengers who looked like the last three-dozen terrorists to attack airplanes.

Since Muslims took down Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, in 1988, every attack on a commercial airliner has been committed by foreign-born Muslim men with the same hair color, eye color and skin color. Half of them have been named Mohammed.

An alien from the planet "Not Politically Correct" would have surveyed the situation after 9/11 and said: "You are at war with an enemy without uniforms, without morals, without a country and without a leader -- but the one advantage you have is they all look alike. ... What? ... What did I say?"

The only advantage we have in a war with stateless terrorists was ruled out of order ab initio by political correctness.

And so, despite 5 trillion Americans opening laptops, surrendering lip gloss and drinking breast milk in airports day after day for the past eight years, the government still couldn't stop a Nigerian Muslim from nearly blowing up a plane over Detroit on Christmas Day.

The "warning signs" exhibited by this particular passenger included the following:

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

He's Nigerian.

He's a Muslim.

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

He boarded a plane in Lagos, Nigeria.

He paid nearly $3,000 in cash for his ticket.

He had no luggage.

His name was Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab.

Two months ago, his father warned the U.S. that he was a radical Muslim and possibly dangerous.

If our security procedures can't stop this guy, can't we just dispense with those procedures altogether? What's the point exactly?

(To be fair, the father's warning might have been taken more seriously if he had not simultaneously asked for the U.S. Embassy's Social Security number and bank routing number in order to convey a $28 million inheritance that was trapped in a Nigerian bank account.)

The warning from Abdulmutallab's father put his son on some list, but not the "no fly" list. Apparently, it's tougher to get on the "no fly" list than it was to get into Studio 54 in the '70s. Currently, the only people on the "no fly" list" are the Blind Sheik and Sean Penn.

The government is like the drunk looking for his keys under a lamppost. Someone stops to help, and asks, "Is this where you lost them?" No, the drunk answers, but the light's better here.

The government refuses to perform the only possibly effective security check -- search Muslims -- so instead it harasses infinitely compliant Americans. Will that help avert a terrorist attack? No, but the Americans don't complain.

The only reason Abdulmutallab didn't succeed in bringing down an airplane with 278 passengers was that: (1) A brave Dutchman leapt from his seat and extinguished the smoldering Nigerian; and (2) the Nigerian apparently didn't have enough detonating fluid to cause a powerful explosion.

In addition to the no blanket, no computer, no bathroom rule, perhaps the airlines could add this to their preflight announcement about seat belts and emergency exits: "Should a passenger sitting near you attempt to detonate an explosive device, you may be called upon to render emergency assistance. Would you be willing to do so under those circumstances? If not we will assign you another seat ..."

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=35037

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01-04-2010 02:59 PM  7 years agoPost 2
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she's always a good read.

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01-04-2010 04:50 PM  7 years agoPost 3
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Since Muslims took down Pan Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie
Isn't this a bit unfair ? I thought some Libyans were responsible for Lockerbie, not the whole Muslim populations. When American soldiers
abused prisoners in Iraq, the papers didn't report "Christians abused prisoners". When that guy in Switzerland locked up and abused his daughter for 15 years, the news reports didn't mention that he was a Christian.

My understanding is that the only reason some Muslims have anything against Americans is for their unconditional support for Israel.
Their quarrel is with Israel, not America. The Muslim world's hatred for the US would disappear if the US withdrew support for Israel.
and (2) the Nigerian apparently didn't have enough detonating fluid to cause a powerful explosion.
This is interesting. We are talking about Al Queda, an organisation capable of orchestrating 911, yet not capable of ensuring enough material would be available for the bomb. Surely they tested it on the ground. Makes you wonder if he or whoever helped him really wanted the plane to go down.

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01-04-2010 04:58 PM  7 years agoPost 4
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My understanding is that the only reason some Muslims have anything against Americans is for their unconditional support for Israel.
Their quarrel is with Israel, not America. The Muslim world's hatred for the US would disappear if the US withdrew support for Israel.
I doubt that.

Besides. Why should we give in to an enemy that attacked us?

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01-04-2010 05:11 PM  7 years agoPost 5
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Their quarrel is with Israel, not America. The Muslim world's hatred for the US would disappear if the US withdrew support for Israel
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This is interesting. We are talking about Al Queda, an organisation capable of orchestrating 911, yet not capable of ensuring enough material would be available for the bomb. Surely they tested it on the ground. Makes you wonder if he or whoever helped him really wanted the plane to go down.
Oh really

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01-04-2010 05:23 PM  7 years agoPost 6
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Isn't this a bit unfair ?
Yes, it is. It should have read "radical muslims". Their motives were not proven to be religious. They were revenge for military strikes. Targeting innocent civilians in revenge for military strikes on military/terrorist facilities cannot be justified.
My understanding is that the only reason some Muslims have anything against Americans is for their unconditional support for Israel.
Some Muslims? Radical Muslims want to kill everyone who is an infidel, and they want to cause chaos in order to speed the return of the 12th imam. We will continue to support democracies and our allies throughout the world. Israel would be a peaceful nation if their enemies would stop attacking them.
Makes you wonder if he or whoever helped him really wanted the plane to go down.
Not every attack is successful.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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01-04-2010 07:48 PM  7 years agoPost 7
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"Israel would be a peaceful nation if their enemies would stop attacking them"

Err should read... "Israel would be a peaceful nation if enemies would stop attacking them whilst trying to regain their stolen land"
That is after all what it's all about...

It would have been much easier had the UN given the Jews Ireland in 1947 instead of a part of Palestine, an Arab state...

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01-04-2010 08:48 PM  7 years agoPost 8
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Arabs stole the land from Israel first. Americans have no problems coexisting with Native American tribes, who were given land after the American Indian wars. The Arabs need to suck it up and accept that Israel has a right to exist, just like Americans have accepted that Native Americans are entitled to their land.

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01-04-2010 08:52 PM  7 years agoPost 9
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isn't it a bit embarrassing to be an 'american' at the moment?

look at who we keep putting in charge.

pathetic.

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01-04-2010 11:30 PM  7 years agoPost 10
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WOW...WTF????? That has to be a real bull****e statement unless I am misunderstanding what you're saying.....

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01-05-2010 09:26 AM  7 years agoPost 11
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The Nigerian guy who attempted to blow up the plane on Christmas day is guilty of the attempted murder of hundreds of innocent people and for that, he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
We were told that he didn't have enough explosives for a bomb.
However, I find it easier to believe that his masters who trained him probably switched bottles before he boarded the plane to ensure the plane wouldn't go down and he'd be caught. He only managed to start a small fire which could easily be put out by the on board fire extinguishers. If the plane went down nobody would know who was responsible. OK so who were his masters ? My guess is, Mossad agents in Al Queda. Why do I think this ? Because Israel is the only country that benefits from this type of publicity. I could be wrong, it could be CIA agents, preparing the groundwork for US going into Yemen, we'll see.
Besides. Why should we give in to an enemy that attacked us?
Sorry, I didn't get that. Who attacked you ? Are you talking about 911 ?
You might check this out. http://www.realnews247.com/9-11_coverup.htm
Are there still Americans who believe that a few Afghan cavemen managed to disable the North American defenses and flew planes into the twin towers ? What about Tower 7 ? It was not hit, so why did tower 7 collapse ?

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01-05-2010 11:05 AM  7 years agoPost 12
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Are there still Americans who believe that a few Afghan cavemen managed to disable the North American defenses and flew planes into the twin towers ?
While I DON'T believe that "a few Afghan cavemen" did 9/11, I DO believe that a well funded, well organized, well trained, multinational paramilitary terrorist organization called Al Qaeda DID. Most Americans share this view.

Look here...if you think it was a few "cavemen," you REALLY need to read up on Al Qaeda! They had resources, personnel, international ties, money, training, weapons, and ideaology. Osama Bin Laden is hardly some caveman. Look him up. He was born of a Royal Family and was worth some 300 million dollars. Funding something of the scope of 9/11 was well within his abilities. He and his were gutsy, well trained men. Using modern weaponry and training, they were able to kick out the Soviet Union. Essentially, they were trained to military standards.

They were hardly a bunch of cavemen. The idea they were simpletons is tossed around in conspiracy circles to make you go "hmmmm." Frankly, the more you know about Al Qaeda, the more the "bunch of cavemen" view sounds ignorant. If you are trying to convince people of your CT (conspiracy theory) you need to use a different angle because as soon as you said "a few cavemen", I turned the switch off.
We are talking about Al Queda, an organisation capable of orchestrating 911, yet not capable of ensuring enough material would be available for the bomb
While the 2001 version of Al Qaeda WAS capable of 9/11, they are now less strong of an organization. Still dangerous for sure, just not what they used to be. Something you have to remember, is that we have been at war with Al Queda for some time now, and doing quite well at it. We have frozen accounts to disable much of their operations around the world. No money=no weapons, no food, no incentives, briberies, etc. We've disrupted the chain of command by continually killing off key leaders. They are busier trying to not get killed by us, something that hadn't been a problem pre 9/11. We've intercepted and disrupted communications. They still recruit, but you can bet your arse that they occasionally recruit intelligence operatives, or suspect it, and that trust is a huge issue in what is left of their organization. What recruits they do have no longer have safe terrorist training camps to train in. This HAS to play a part in capability.

Bottom line, I doubt they have quite the capabily they used to. Not to say that they aren't dangerous! Leave the door open and look what happens. But most of their operations are now decentralized to the point where you are going to see things like this and hopefully nothing like 9/11 scale.

If you think American leaders WANT this to happen and it's some conspiracy, you are hugely mistaken. Something like this destabilizes travel, the economy, and thus edges us closer to chaos and general unrest. The outcome of a total economic collapse would threaten our national security like no terrorist attack could. No leader in his rightful mind wants that sort of chaos.

I know you are trying to think "outside of the box," but you're too far outside! Please read up on this and get information from multiple sources. You'll find the CT stuff has all sorts of holes in it. If you thought the "true story" was hard to believe, the CT stuff is even harder, especially when you probe the evidence.

Finally, consider the enemy. They kill women and children INTENTIONALLY. If they happen to kill a man, they like to drag their burned bodies down the streets in animalistic displays. Fajullah, Mogadishu, true animalism. They love to blow themselves up all over Iraq, especially if doing so means double digit civilian deaths. They love to gas civilians in London trainstations. If threatened, they'll take a hostage and use him as a civilian shield. This is what they are.

Why do I make a point to say what the enemy is? Because who they are is entirely relevant to the believability of CT's. You MUST consider the terrorist ideaology before deciding who "the bad guys" are. Do you believe that this is a giant conspiracy, that government is planning world domination and all this violence with people blowing themselves and families up all over the world are fighting for good? Are they killing women and children intentionally to bring a new era of freedom?

I'm serious! You must take a side here! Belief in CT's doesn't allow you to focus on who the enemy is. It places doubt in dubious places.

I'll admit I was momentarily intrigued by the CT sites. But I investigated more, and am glad I did. We need to focus on the demonic forces at work here. I say demonic, because there isn't any way I can try to explain their ideaology. There isn't a cause in this universe that would make me want to blow up women and children. I'd sooner put myself under a bus. And yet the terrorists will give their LIFE if it means some women and children die! How can this not be considered evil?

Educate yourself!!! From multiple sources. Yes, the CT sites have intrigue! "WOW what if it's true?!" It's like a secret! Feels exciting...like espionage. Like only you and a few others know about the truth and everyone else is mistaken. It makes you feel special, knowledgable. It's also more interesting to carry an alternate view. Reality is so boring compared to the interesting intrigue of a good conspiracy theory.

But consider this: Do you believe in the CT because of the EVIDENCE, or because of HOW IT MAKES YOU FEEL!? Please consider that and educate yourself, from multiple sources. I think you'll come around unless you are "addicted" to that feeling.

I've done a lot of research on Al Qaeda, 9/11, truther ideaology, and debunking. CT's make you go hmmmm, but upon further investigation, they fall apart. Most theories don't stand up to any scrutiny and luckily there are people who actively debunk them with facts.

I'm not from the government and I'm not trying to pull one over on you.

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That said, profiling does carry with it inherit risks to overall liberty. There are a lot of peaceful muslim men of that age in our country who probably fear for their safety and freedom everytime something like this happens.

It's hard to "pick a side." On one side you have profiling which no doubt works. No one can deny it. The question is, is it worth it?! Because, on the other side you have millions of muslim men who deserve the same rights as you or I going through an airport terminal. I don't have the answer. I would never choose to remove someone's rights, but the more I consider the inconvenience of profiling compared to the security risk the more I think profiling could be considered a "necessary evil." Luckily, such extreme measures aren't being taken yet. We are using more levelheaded measures for now, and hopefully the longhaul.

I DO think that for international travelers from the middle east we need to keep a better eye out. So profiling based on locations might be necessary.

That said, we are ALL inconvenienced by airport security protocol. I've gotten to the point where I just drive if I can. WAY less frustration.

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01-05-2010 02:03 PM  7 years agoPost 14
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all well said as usual Aaron.
I would add this about the profiling though. If the "good" muslims are experiencing any "problems" (and I'm quite sure they are), then why don't we hear a PEEP from the "good" muslims, speaking out against their radical brethren??? I know they're not supposed to speak ill of a brother muslim, but for christ's sake, they're blowing up their own women and children over what sect they belong too. If the "good" ones would rise up and make a stand against these idiots, maybe this could all come to an end once and for all......did I just say that???

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If the "good" muslims are experiencing any "problems" (and I'm quite sure they are), then why don't we hear a PEEP from the "good" muslims, speaking out against their radical brethren???
We don't hear from them because they don't make the news. But, every time we've been attacked, they have spoken out. It just doesn't seem that way when the 24/7 news channels spend days covering an event and only give a few seconds to the Muslims who are speaking out.

http://www.islamfortoday.com/terrorism.htm
http://www.reformislam.org/
http://www.m-a-t.org/
http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm
http://www.islamagainstterrorism.com/

It has been my experience that those speaking out, are a minority of Muslims. Most remain silent.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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Are there still Americans who believe that a few Afghan cavemen managed to disable the North American defenses and flew planes into the twin towers ? What about Tower 7 ? It was not hit, so why did tower 7 collapse ?
All of the 9/11 theories you think are right, are easily proven to be rubbish.

http://11-settembre.blogspot.com/20...sh-section.html

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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01-05-2010 06:34 PM  7 years agoPost 17
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you read it right.

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01-05-2010 08:06 PM  7 years agoPost 18
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sea of glass ...sea of glass....like my father said in '79. If we would've done it then, we'd have no problems...

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01-05-2010 08:37 PM  7 years agoPost 19
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there is way more to the 9/11 story than we will ever, ever know.

you can bet on that.

kinda like religion but that is another story.

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