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12-31-2009 12:57 AM  7 years agoPost 1
Mark Spies

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Houston & LaPlace

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First I want to thank Badgerfarm for the new in the box Champion.I have been trying to finish it but too many projects.Here are a few pics so far.I should be finish in a week or so.It's been a long time since I had one,you forget how great the Schluter were back then.No parts missing,everything fit perfect. Mark

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12-31-2009 03:19 AM  7 years agoPost 2
Helizrule

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Lake Ariel, PA

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Nice machine. They are built like a brick and sound so solid and robust while flying. Oh and the sound of the auto hub clicking away when winding down. Ahh the good ol days.

One mile of road will take you one mile. One mile of runway will take you anywhere in the world.

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12-31-2009 03:30 AM  7 years agoPost 3
Mark Spies

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Houston & LaPlace

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Yes those were the days.Not sure if its as much fun as it was back then.You had to be a builder not open the box and fly.I had a few Schluter's back then,if I remember I really learned to hover on a Champion that I bought from Bob's R/C in Beaumount Tx.I spent alot of money with him LOL.

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12-31-2009 04:09 AM  7 years agoPost 4
Badgerfarm

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Missouri

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You're welcome Mark, nice looking machine. Be sure and post some updates when you get it in the air.

Randall

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12-31-2009 04:41 AM  7 years agoPost 5
dkshema

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Very nice, and a nice clean canopy finish. Looks good. Post some flying pics when you get a chance.

I owned one, it was a great heli. Great find. Badger seems to have stumbled upon a good stash of older Schluters recently. Lucky him.

I'm building up a Superior I purchased from a fellow here on line a while back, it's bringing back a lot of memories.

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12-31-2009 11:35 AM  7 years agoPost 6
Mark Spies

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Houston & LaPlace

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Thanks Guys

Happy New Year to all.

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12-31-2009 02:56 PM  7 years agoPost 7
Helizrule

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Bob's RC in TX, man I spend thousands and thousands there. We always had a good conversation.

It is true those were the days of true building. You had to cut out, sand, glue and paint the radio wood work. Same as for the canopy. Dial indicate the fan and clutch for that top cone start shaft. The main blades had to be lead filled and epoxied, sanded, weighed, balanced and covered. Oh and Pitch and throttle curves kept you up all night LOL.

One mile of road will take you one mile. One mile of runway will take you anywhere in the world.

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12-31-2009 04:45 PM  7 years agoPost 8
rocket_33

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Mount Pleasant, Michigan USA

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Old Bob's RC.....he was a great guy and so helpful. I remember the long telephone conversations we had and remember how much he helped my out when I went to the NATS in Lake Charles, LA. I wonder what ever happened to him?

And Schulters, I had the Champion (great machine) and the Scout and the Superior. Schulter made some great helis back in the day

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12-31-2009 09:52 PM  7 years agoPost 9
Mark Spies

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Bob is still do good.I saw him a few months ago at the Beaumont flying field.In fact I bought one of his airplanes (ultra-stick).Still has the welder caps and looks the same. I will post more pics when I finish her.

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01-01-2010 05:55 PM  7 years agoPost 10
ECOHELI

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wow looks like i really nice build! keep up the good work. i have a question about a champion that i am restoring, for lack of better words to get her in the air again. im not to happy with the clevis links(i think thats the name of the white links at the servo arm connections). i was thinking of changing all of them to regular ball links as newer modern helis have. should i do this or just buy newer clevis links?
i just want to make this bird as reliable as possible. what do you guys think? if i do go with the newer style ball links do you know what size i would need as my thunder tiger links just slip right over the rods and do not thread on...too large.
thanks guys!

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01-01-2010 05:59 PM  7 years agoPost 11
rocket_33

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Back in the day when I had a Champion I switched them from the clevis to ball links. Schluter actually had a die and you could buy rod stock to make your own pushrods. So yes if you can switching to ball links would be better IMHO

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01-01-2010 06:30 PM  7 years agoPost 12
ECOHELI

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Connecticut

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thanks rocket. do you know where i can but the correct sized plastic ball links to fit the stock rods? does rocket city links make some that fit?

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01-01-2010 06:41 PM  7 years agoPost 13
Mark Spies

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You are correct on that.I have the clevis links that are for the Horizon they are the same a Schluter. I use the clevis because I wanted to try and keep it like it was in the 80's.

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01-01-2010 07:22 PM  7 years agoPost 14
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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I'm building a Superior, it too, had the nylon clevises that actually worked quite well. They had a nice "snap" closure that was very secure.

This kit had them as well, but seeing that they are perhaps 20 years old, there is a chance they may have aged and become brittle. I was looking for a replacement that wouldn't cause me to go out and buy a few bits here and there and settled upon using some ball links and the balls from my Align 700 kit.

The links thread onto the stock Schluter threaded rod perfectly. I would imagine Hirobo and MinAir ball links would work fine, as well.

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01-01-2010 08:19 PM  7 years agoPost 15
Blue Angel

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Schluter ball links

Hello ECOHELI: The old Min. Air. Excel links were an exact copy of Schluter's links. Don't know if the current MA links are the same or not, but should be easy enough to verify. If still the same, you can substitute them for Schluter. No one would know otherwise.

Blue Angel

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01-01-2010 11:06 PM  7 years agoPost 16
ECOHELI

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Connecticut

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dkshema, so you are you say that the align 700 ball links fit on the servo pushrods? i would think that the align rods are thicker than the schluter rods? can you confirm the diameter of the align rods to the size of the schluter ones? i have some thunder tiger rods that i believe are a standard size and the links from them are to big for the schluter ones.
i would like to go with the align links due to them being easier to find than the old excel links.

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01-01-2010 11:36 PM  7 years agoPost 17
dkshema

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I measured the unthreaded portion of several pushrods on the head of my 600N and 700, and find that the rod diameter varies from about 1.96 mm to 2.02 mm.

Measuring the same unthreaded portion of the stock Schluter rods, I find the diameters vary from about 1.96 mm up to about 2.00 mm.

The Align ball links thread onto the threaded portion of the rods and feel just as secure as the Schluter clevises.

I'll shoot and post some pics of my Superior linkage later this evening.

The Rocket City ball links ought to thread on properly, as well.

I could probably mail you a couple of the Align plastic ball links for you to try.

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01-01-2010 11:43 PM  7 years agoPost 18
ECOHELI

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Connecticut

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dkshema, that would be great. i would like to know for sure before i spend the money on them.
thanks

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01-02-2010 02:13 AM  7 years agoPost 19
Kristian M

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Norway

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Schlüter ball links

The Champion uses 2mm rods. rcmarket.org provides orginal Schlüter 2mm ball links. They look just the same as they always have. I used that on mine. I had to slightly bend some of the rods, and space out the ball on the pich slider.

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01-02-2010 07:05 PM  7 years agoPost 20
dkshema

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ECO -- you'll have to PM me your mailing address.

Yes, the Align ball links really do fit just fine on the stock Schluter rods.

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