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12-30-2009 05:12 AM  7 years agoPost 1
Don

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WI

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All you guys who started out in this hobby with a 30 size nitro, are you glad you did or would you rather have started with one of those little electrics (450 or smaller) like so many people are doing today?

Do you think you are better off going nitro first?

If you were getting into the hobby today, which way would you go?

Me personally, I'm glad electrics weren't really available when I started because I probably would have gotten a small electric to start with and easily lost interest after hovering a small fragile "toy" around my living room. I'm glad I did nitro first !

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12-30-2009 05:15 AM  7 years agoPost 2
krashtagain

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ohio

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Smoke and slime !!! Started with a 30 when the Concept 30 was the thing . I like the small electrics as well but the slime and smoke rules .

If you're not living on the edge you're just taking up space !

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12-30-2009 05:31 AM  7 years agoPost 3
ERIC AUSTIN

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USA

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I started in 97 with a Hirobo Shuttle Z and do not regret a thing. What I see today is these electrics which are awesome and easy to fly ( like the Blade MSR ) However, once you think you are the shiz and get a CCP2 or similar for $200 you find out real quick you know nothing.

Personally, I think the flood of electrics is great for the hobby. More people in it, prices are cheaper. ( From nothing to Shuttle Z in 97 was $800 ) However, I also see a lot of frustrated people that cannot understand why they cannot fly a real heli after 1 month on a ultra micro.

Bottom line, I am glad I had to build my first heli from the ground up and learned old school without crashing every day.

Eric

Sucks to be an old timer though!!! Was 27 in 97 damn......

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12-30-2009 05:42 AM  7 years agoPost 4
bcm

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Tuolumne,CA

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30 size Enya engine, wood blades and rate gyro......
good old days.

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12-30-2009 05:50 AM  7 years agoPost 5
cdrking

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Seattle

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I used to auto a Concept 30DX with foam blades.

I'm an old timer.

Jeff

To hover is divine, the alternative is rather PLANE.

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12-30-2009 05:52 AM  7 years agoPost 6
tasmanian devil

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DeSoto,Tx.

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Started with a nitro.Would'nt change a thing.

I do'nt crash,I just rearrange parts.

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12-30-2009 06:20 AM  7 years agoPost 7
skytrekin

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Youngtown, AZ

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The stability of a 30 size heli is pretty good.
I started with a cx and learned the cyclic ( I flew planks first )
Then made a mistake ( I believe looking back ) and got a cp pro. After many main blades, main gear/shaft, I could hover it pretty decent.
I got a great deal on a nexus 30 and was surprised how stable it is. I think it is a awesome trainer, besides the unavailability of parts, it does everything slow, and easy to see, and can handle some wind.

I would't consider myself a old timer (39) but thats how I started. I do like the sound and smell of nitro, and watching something mechanical hovering is pretty cool.

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12-30-2009 08:41 AM  7 years agoPost 8
Aaron29

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USA

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I still have my Raptor. And I also have a Blade 400. I would go back and learn on the Raptor again, if I had to. Much more stable.

I may have tried to get into a Blade 400 from the start if I were starting today, not knowing that it would be much more difficult to fly. I wonder if I would have gotten discouraged or not.

That said, I love my Blades and would not get rid of them. But they are tough to consider as a "starter" heli.

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12-30-2009 11:18 AM  7 years agoPost 9
JeepCJ

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Pennellville NY (Syracuse Heli Group)

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When I first started, it was with a Concept EP bought used local. No interenet, and no local heli community that I was aware of, it seemed like the correct choice coming from a car backround. I learned to hover indoors with it, but not much more after moving outdoors. Bought a new Concept 30Dx and I was able to progress into foward flight. I know its not the same now. But back then, it was much easier to learn on a larger 30 size nitro heli.

Bob

Team Synergy/ Team Scorpion

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12-30-2009 11:58 AM  7 years agoPost 10
Chris Lupa

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Lancaster, UK

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I started with a 30, but wish I had started with a 50. Having that extra room to grow would have been nice. I always recommend that new pilots don't start on a 450/250 because they are inherently less stable. Mind you, a cheapy Blade or counter-rotating model is always a good one for complete newbies to get a "taste" of this crazy hobby!

Sponsored by CSM and QuickUK

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12-30-2009 11:59 AM  7 years agoPost 11
dialarotor

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Traverse City, Michigan

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Cut my leg and count the rings to get my age

Blue Shuttle with an OS.28 and Concept DX30 with OS.32 and foam blades. Always had fun with them. Early electrics, Kalt Whisper were horrible. TREX450 and MiniTitan so much better.

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12-30-2009 12:13 PM  7 years agoPost 12
JRjoe

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Jonesville , IN USA #1

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Started back in 01 with a Century Hawk and an OS 32 and wouldn't change a thing.... Those twitchy little electrics probably would have turned me off...


JRjoe.....
Indoor plumbing??? No, we don't need that!!!

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12-30-2009 12:27 PM  7 years agoPost 13
chris6414

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Sneads Ferry, NC USA

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Started with a fixed pitch Dragonfly 4(all seperates). Went to Iraq and flew a Blade CP Pro and progressed to forward flight, then got a Esky Belt CP (450) Now, have a second hand Hawk Sport with OS .32 with a mechanical Futaba G-153 gyro. About as far as my budget will take me right now. Just ordered a HK 450 with a scale fuse to play with at the house. Still like the 450s to start, as they are cheap and somewhat stable. If you can fly a 450, you can fly anything.

Century Hawk Sport, OS .32, Futaba 7C, GY-601 9251
Predator Gasser SE G-23, Fut 3010 servos, JR gyro/servo

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12-30-2009 12:52 PM  7 years agoPost 14
PAHelinut

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PA USA

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I started with a Nexus 30 then went to the Raptor 50 V1 when they first came out.

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12-30-2009 01:00 PM  7 years agoPost 15
Brokenlink

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Oakdale

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I started with a schluter Jr 50,then after eleventeen crashes I went to a 90 size.If I had to start over I would have probably went with a 30 size heli.

Jamie Griffith

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12-30-2009 01:03 PM  7 years agoPost 16
bosshoss

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Chicago, IL

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I WISH I started with a 30 or 50.

The little 450 was torture to learn on.

Why Hover a Yak, when a Heli does it better?

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12-30-2009 01:12 PM  7 years agoPost 17
heli-cuzz

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Pittston, Pa. USA

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My first heli was a Caliber30. I have no regrets starting with a 30 sized nitro, if I had to do it from the start again, I'd go the same 30 sized route. Crashes are relatively inexpensive
I most likely would have lost interest after the first crash learning on any ep heli.
I like electrics, but something about nitro really gets my adrenaline flowing.

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12-30-2009 01:16 PM  7 years agoPost 18
junkpilot

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Alamogordo N.M.

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Electrics or Nitro

Look at it this way, Without all those infernally small electrics we wouldnt have any fourteen year old RR Masters.
Junkpilot

When you fly JUNK it's hard to tell when you've crashed!

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12-30-2009 01:16 PM  7 years agoPost 19
Rotowerkz

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Windham, NH

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I still have my Raptor. And I also have a Blade 400. I would go back and learn on the Raptor again, if I had to. Much more stable.

I may have tried to get into a Blade 400 from the start if I were starting today, not knowing that it would be much more difficult to fly. I wonder if I would have gotten discouraged or not.

That said, I love my Blades and would not get rid of them. But they are tough to consider as a "starter" heli.
I have to second you on that. I kind of went the same way. I bought a Century Falcon from some guy 4 years ago, then put it on the shelf until I had time to devote to helis. Then, last fall (over a year ago), I got the bug, and decided to try the Blade 400 because the Falcon was a bit expensive to fix in a crash (2 crashes before the B400).

After dozens of crashes and improvements in the servos, gyro and ESC on the B400, I dusted off the Falcon and found that it was relaxing to fly by comparison, even with the added complexity of nitro. I bought a used Raptor 30 V1 in July, and was impressed with the sheer simplicity of the design as well as the smooth flight characteristics. I understand why they sold so many.

My B400 is now my beater heli. I use it for learning new stuff.

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12-30-2009 01:24 PM  7 years agoPost 20
Gyronut

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Martinsville In.

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I started with a Hummingbird and then moved on to a 30 Raptor.

Rick

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