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12-30-2009 09:52 PM  7 years agoPost 21
CNCjunkie

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Kauai (The Garden Isle), Hawaii - USA

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Yesterday we got to 49 around 2pm and 3 mile per hour breeze. Today it is expected to be 53 with calm winds, cloudy but dry.

Wish you were here... don't you?
Nope, still too cold for my taste.

Just another crappy day in Paradise....Aloha!

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12-31-2009 07:49 AM  7 years agoPost 22
Gearhead

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Raja, it's to cold for me to fly, my hands just can't take the cold like they could, in the 80s we used-to Tent Camp when Deer Hunting in 2ft of snow, it was fun but no more Deer Hunting for me, I just don't injoy the cold, had enough of it over the years,,

don't ask me how cold it's been here, I did hear my wife say it was 5F the other day, I have lived here so long I don't even think about the temp anymore, if I got to go out I just go out,,

every once in a while I ask my wife if she would like to leave Vt to get away from the winter when she retires, I think I got her thinking about it..

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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12-31-2009 03:58 PM  7 years agoPost 23
lejon

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CNCJunkie

I guess 78 is ok, but the 76% humidity is not to my liking. I will take the 49 and 10% humidity over the 78 and 76%, only because when it gets to 90 and 90% I would have to find an Air Conditioned location to fly.

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12-31-2009 04:15 PM  7 years agoPost 24
CNCjunkie

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I hear ya Lejon, but the humidity doesn't bother me like it used to when I first moved here 13 years ago, but yes, 80 can feel like 95.

Shade, plenty of water and sun block and we're good to go.

Just another crappy day in Paradise....Aloha!

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12-31-2009 04:24 PM  7 years agoPost 25
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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Flying... maybe not?

Well the winds died down finally, today max of 9mph but mostly 2 to 3mph to calm. I loaded up the car with the heli was thinking to sneak a flight in on the way to the electronics store and then THIS started...

Temps are 29F now, I guess if it stays cold enough I could get a couple of flights in the snow. If it turns to rain, I don't like water on my birds...

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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01-04-2010 01:03 AM  7 years agoPost 26
Wayne Parrish

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Well' Down in the good ole sunny south today it finally got to 30 degrees and winds of 12-13 . I know that sounds great to a lot of you guys and gals ,BUT,to us thats pretty dang cold !! The kicker is that we will probably have another week or more of this,then we go fly some !

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01-04-2010 03:06 AM  7 years agoPost 27
KopterKat

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Yeah that sounds pretty warm. Yesterday was cold with 35mph wind and today was a little worst. So there's no flying in Jersey


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01-05-2010 12:57 AM  7 years agoPost 28
GREYEAGLE

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Cry me a River

Boy I sure feel for you ! That's just terrible !

Heck we still wear our flip flops in that and we might put on a T- shirt. And to rub it it in X gas man: Is going over to feed the parrot fish frozen pea's at Hannioni Moma Bay and spy on the Whahinie's " Smooth Bellie's"

Ya want pity ? Hear take some of this !!!

Again another -20 actual and maybe a heat wave "20's" by the end of the week.

Oh by the way that's one of my pet's under the pine's in both pic's and that's my gal !

greyeagle

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01-05-2010 01:16 AM  7 years agoPost 29
Mike545

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flew today for like 5 min, it was 27 minus the wind chill, my hands froze, the heck with this

"always feel thankful..... never entitled"

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01-06-2010 01:11 PM  7 years agoPost 30
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It was only zero C and 3 inches of fresh snow so I felt obliged to go..a light breeze was throwing ice crystals at my face and snow and mist made viz pretty poor..

My usual slow, tortuous preflight on Spectra, fired up and warmd up, rechecked etc, etc..about 2 mins. The a gentle lift of and hover about a minute before flying carefully safe circuits on the new mix of synthetic I just wotched to..

5 Mins into simple circuits and about 50/60 yds out 70/80 feet up and it flames out without warning.I lost a little height compelting the turn back but was suprised how well it glided .. made it back to the runways but had to fly it down to the landing rather than any neat flare and settle...not quite enough inertia left in the head but at least i cleared the thick cr@p. It plonked down in 4 inches of snow, a little heavier than I'd have liked but no damage.

The it restarted first pull!

I didn't fy it again.. back to hunting for why. Tank level just by the bung so might simple be the clunk but it's only a gallon and a half and 2-3 mths since I last did it

pgk

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01-06-2010 02:16 PM  7 years agoPost 31
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flew today for like 5 min, it was 27 minus the wind chill, my hands froze, the heck with this
Exactly! LOL It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the darn wind! OH well I'll work on projects in my work room.

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01-06-2010 03:27 PM  7 years agoPost 32
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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Long flight times

The good news about that is that in the cold weather there is less times you have to refuel and restart the engine or whatnot. I usually start mine, fly for 3 to 4 minutes, land, go over to the heli and grab the muffler with my gloves to rewarm my hands, take a minute to get my hands warm, and repeat. I can go like that for about a half hour before I use up the entire tank, and, when it does run out my hands get cold trying to handle the fuel can and refuel I try to do it right away so I can squeeze the bulb with one hand but put the other on the muffler to rob heat from it before its gone and switch hands to keep both warm. Its my heat source that keeps me going in the cold weather you know, and much cleaner than a nitro I couldn't be grabbing that muffler I'd have an oil slick on my hands!

pgkevet, generally speaking gas motors do not flame out unless there is some issue. Maybe a lack of fuel? Try to see if the fuel filter is restricted or blocked, do you have the original "ceramic" one or are you flying the Walbro felt one? The "ceramic" one has a tendancy to block up especially in cold weather.

The Spectra does auto very nicely. If you're coming in flamed out and got some scattered blades going on (low head speed), instead of flaring to a stop make a running landing if you have a smooth surface to do it on, up to 3 inches of snow will be OK, not 6 inches that could be too deep. A running landing will give you more lift, as when you stop it you lose translational lift and it will drop in harder with no head speed. Just a thought. If you make it to Jamaica and we fly together with Hugh I can demonstrate all the different varieties of autos for you to help you out seeing all the possibilities if Hugh is Ok with that.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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01-06-2010 03:47 PM  7 years agoPost 33
pgkevet

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I think it may be the ceramic filter..the big thing with the white centre and alloy ends? I don't recall it feeling soft. Can you tell by scraping a finger nail over the surface? I'm sure it was the one you recommended from the link at the time, anyway.

My problem is that responses to quittign wengines just arenlt automatic enough... the microseconds af having to change my brain over..It wasa running landing until the very last bit when I tried to slow the rate of descent.. hence the 'plonked it down' with the last rotor interia.. no float left but the few inches of snow and the skid dampers did their job.

If you recall it did a couple of hiccups last time out and all but quit.. so I'll pull off muffler and carb.. check insde visually, rinse out the carb screen and pull the clunk. I hate that gas bung... a pig to get back in.

It's been snowing all day and just got even heavier. UK cut back so much on precautions that the whole country's ground to a halt.. no grit and salt distribution so running low and they scrapped most of the ploughs after a few warm winters..

pgk

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01-06-2010 04:13 PM  7 years agoPost 34
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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That's the stock clunk

Looks like a fish tank aerator. That's the one I had issues with several years back, and that's when I came up with the Walbro clunk replacement that I've been recommending since then. I would never have recommended the stock one, I made a post about that when it happened to me, you might remember it. It just comes with the kit most people might use it and its OK for a while but can get plugged up.

When I do autos from high altitude, you can actually hit throttle hold and wait FIVE seconds before dropping collective and you can still come in fine. It takes about that long to lose headspead to scattered blades, and I say that because most people trying to learn autos want to dump the collective before they hit throttle hold with fear of losing the head speed. I show that to show its not necessary and you have some time. Of course when you're low and the engine quits the sooner you react the better off you are. You may want to practice that mentally with a running motor and executing an emergency approach. Like if you're flying away and say to yourself the motor just quit, and do a quick turn to come back or decide if you're close enough to land it going away - that is, if you've got runway ahead of you.

Did you say you had skid stops on there, like rubber pieces on the skids? If so those are a no no, take them off please. They will stop the machine from sliding and make for a hard landing. They may be "ok" to save your skids from scratching if you fly on pavement, but really they make the heli no-slidable and that's not good for autos in case you need to slide.

If you're having problems with the fuel bung, they can get spread out after some time especially if you tighten the cap screw too much. Use a flat head screwdriver to carefully press all the edges in around the whole circumference and put the end in first with the least access to the screwdriver blade so that side is in already past the tank edge. After a while if it gets to be too troublesome then just buy another dubro gas stopper, they should be about a pound in England but maybe 2 as here its within 2 bucks and in England its the same number value just in pounds due to things being more expensive. Try not to tighten the center screw too much that spreads the bung more than necessary and deforms it.

Everything is white here with snow and cold weather, the sun is out today and its bright white all around. My driveway is covered with a layer of thin snow/ice that won't melt because the temps not getting warm enough. Its about -2C now. Oh well, Jamaica next week so why worry about it?

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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01-06-2010 05:19 PM  7 years agoPost 35
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It's a clunk i had to buy, not anything that cae with the kit. I think I bought 3 or 4 at the same time because post was sillier than the clunk cost.

Just pulled it out and the line and clunk are all solidly attached but when i was pumping the tank out from 1/2 full there was a lot of air even slow pumping in the line as it drew fuel.

I'll put a new clunk in anyway.

I've had the muffler and carb off and the pitson looks fine from the sides, ring and it's groove clean. Plug looks sloppy rich and that's only a screwdriver different from when it looked far too white.. but maybe the engine was pumping and hot after it quit?

I'll take the carb apart and rinse the screen while I'm at it...

EDIT this was the first tank where I'd changed to synthetic 35:1

ANOTHER EDIT. I'm wrong again! I dug out my spare clunk and an obvious difference and the one I'll put in is obviously felt..
Does that explain why it was lean on the plug at 1 and 1/2 out both needles?

pgk

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01-06-2010 06:54 PM  7 years agoPost 36
rbort

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Franklin, MA - USA

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You lost me there

Did you have the ceramic clunk in there and just replaced it to the felt one, or the ceramic was in the drawer and you replaced the felt with another felt one?

If you're sucking in air maybe the fuel line is cracked inside the tank. Replace that with a fresh one while you're at it and always use tie wraps at all ends except for the carb barbed fittings.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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01-06-2010 07:19 PM  7 years agoPost 37
pgkevet

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..was ceramic..now felt.. line intact.. no visible cracks and was tied both ends..and I had had to use a 450 damper ring to stop any leak around the tank fitting.. held up good but I'll swap it for a new one.

pgk

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01-06-2010 07:24 PM  7 years agoPost 38
rbort

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Ok that's good to know

So I feel you're changed something now from before and are good to try it again with some confidence that you very well might have fixed it.

Very possible the ceramic was restricted causing you to open up the needles more and this sudden engine stops.

Good luck with the next set of field trials, I'm thinking you're gonna have a good day at the field

P.S. I also use a rubber gasket below the T fitting to stop the leaking. It helps and don't tighten too much as I did that once and it crushed the rubber fitting into leaking.

-=>Raja.

MA 1005 Hanson 280, 4129 flts
Spectra 27 3DMax, 3187 flts
Whiplash V1 Hanson 300, 1425 flts
Whiplash V2 Hanson 300, 185 flts

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01-06-2010 07:30 PM  7 years agoPost 39
pgkevet

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..problem around here is weather and IC restrictions.

I'll finish up on Spectra then go looking for a bearing noise on my 600..only things left to check are the pinion support and front engine bearings

pgk

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01-06-2010 07:40 PM  7 years agoPost 40
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Weather around here is going from bad to horrifying. -15F tonight with 30mph+ winds My neighbor has a snow drift between his driveway and front door that is ABOVE my head! We won't see temp's above freezing for the forcastable future and haven't seen above 38'ish for at least a month. Makes up for the best weather I've seen in years we had in November.
then go looking for a bearing noise on my 600
I've seen this on a 600. The pinion bearing litterly fell apart once the entire stack was pulled from the frame. What was left of the bearing was a sight to see. BTW watching this teardown happen at the field is what convinced me to buy the aftermarket screw kit for my 700, they had to use a Dremel to cut a slot in one of the frame screws on his 600 just to get the clutch bearing block out of the frame. the shouldered bolts are a nice idea on paper but not working out too well in practice, at least with the precision and clearances being manufactured. I'll bet a lunch that it's the pinion bearing.

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