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12-29-2009 01:03 AM  7 years agoPost 1
hockeysew

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Anybody else catch this- December 17th 2009:

Why Does Interpol Need Immunity from American Law? [Andy McCarthy]

You just can't make up how brazen this crowd is. One week ago, President Obama quietly signed an executive order that makes an international police force immune from the restraints of American law.

Interpol is the shorthand for the International Criminal Police Organization. It was established in 1923 and operates in about 188 countries. By executive order 12425, issued in 1983, President Reagan recognized Interpol as an international organization and gave it some of the privileges and immunities customarily extended to foreign diplomats. Interpol, however, is also an active law-enforcement agency, so critical privileges and immunities (set forth in Section 2(c) of the International Organizations Immunities Act) were withheld. Specifically, Interpol's property and assets remained subject to search and seizure, and its archived records remained subject to public scrutiny under provisions like the Freedom of Information Act. Being constrained by the Fourth Amendment, FOIA, and other limitations of the Constitution and federal law that protect the liberty and privacy of Americans is what prevents law-enforcement and its controlling government authority from becoming tyrannical.

On Wednesday, however, for no apparent reason, President Obama issued an executive order removing the Reagan limitations. That is, Interpol's property and assets are no longer subject to search and confiscation, and its archives are now considered inviolable. This international police force (whose U.S. headquarters is in the Justice Department in Washington) will be unrestrained by the U.S. Constitution and American law while it operates in the United States and affects both Americans and American interests outside the United States.

Interpol works closely with international tribunals (such as the International Criminal Court — which the United States has refused to join because of its sovereignty surrendering provisions, though top Obama officials want us in it). It also works closely with foreign courts and law-enforcement authorities (such as those in Europe that are investigating former Bush administration officials for purported war crimes — i.e., for actions taken in America's defense).

Why would we elevate an international police force above American law? Why would we immunize an international police force from the limitations that constrain the FBI and other American law-enforcement agencies? Why is it suddenly necessary to have, within the Justice Department, a repository for stashing government files which, therefore, will be beyond the ability of Congress, American law-enforcement, the media, and the American people to scrutinize?

Steve Schippert has more at ThreatsWatch, here.

Anybody else see the direction this heads?
Does this open the door to "Other" foreign agencies/organizations operating on U.S. soil?
And under whose authority?
Your thoughts?

Liberals are like a "Slinky", useless but entertaining when pushed down stairs....

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12-29-2009 01:07 AM  7 years agoPost 2
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cant do much about it untill we can get the jackass out of office.

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12-29-2009 01:53 AM  7 years agoPost 3
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He is our president, please show some respect .

Thats MR Jackass

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12-29-2009 01:55 AM  7 years agoPost 4
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fwiw..

There's some change we can be afraid of...
Every day, in every way, this admin is becoming a joke...Too bad it's a dangerous joke.

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12-29-2009 08:25 AM  7 years agoPost 5
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But it's quite alright for your guys to operate anywhere with carte blanche...

“Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery.”

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12-29-2009 02:08 PM  7 years agoPost 6
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Sorry debogus but I just cant bring myself to even call it mr hmm wait ok MR not mr but Mental retard there I can use that ok I will referr to him as that for now on thanks for the info

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12-29-2009 02:25 PM  7 years agoPost 7
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tintin,

where do we operate in other countries with a civilian law enforcement agency carte blanche?

your remarks are more and more ignorant with each post.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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12-29-2009 05:05 PM  7 years agoPost 8
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What about the 3 british citizens rendered from the UK to the USA for fraud charges in the mid 2000's as part of the Enron fiasco? Does Britain not have a civilian police force now?

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12-29-2009 07:43 PM  7 years agoPost 9
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fwiw..
We have the social imperative to defend ourselves..ANYWHERE!..

This is not the same as a police action, much as the lib intellect would have it...
Anything that affects the sovereignty of the US is a bad thing, and cannot be tolerated.

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12-29-2009 08:10 PM  7 years agoPost 10
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What about the 3 british citizens rendered from the UK to the USA for fraud charges in the mid 2000's as part of the Enron fiasco? Does Britain not have a civilian police force now?
It's known as extradition. It's not like we just kidnapped them.
I'm beginning to wonder if Canada has a school system!

Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about!

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12-29-2009 09:44 PM  7 years agoPost 11
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uh1 I dont think they do.

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12-29-2009 09:56 PM  7 years agoPost 12
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From their site:
INTERPOL aims to facilitate international police co-operation even where diplomatic relations do not exist between particular countries. Action is taken within the limits of existing laws in different countries and in the spirit of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
So, WHY do they need a method to circumvent our laws when they state that they operate within the law? Strange.

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12-29-2009 10:22 PM  7 years agoPost 13
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the real question is whether or not Interpol requested the changes which prompted the executive order.

too many of you are jumping to conclusions, though, and automatically expect Interpol to commit evil acts...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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12-30-2009 12:42 AM  7 years agoPost 14
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So, really, it's just the boss signing away another protection... Please, somebody, show me some good that has come of this last 12 months. Am I missing it somewhere?

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12-30-2009 12:44 AM  7 years agoPost 15
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SSN Pru

too many of you are jumping to conclusions, though, and automatically expect Interpol to commit evil acts...
You are 100% correct. The problem is that we have become suspicious of everything Obama is touching (and we have good reason).

If Obama said: "the sky is blue", many of us (me) would say:"good grief, Obama is messing up the sky!" It's simply a "trust issue."

If Obama had approached things in a better way, he would had not given so much ammo to us doubters.

Examples: Healthcare:
1. Allow insurance to cross state lines under federal guidelines.
2. Drastically execute Tort reform.
3. Form a federal "catch net" for people that have major health issues due to crimes, accidents, or devastating illness that are not their fault.

Who could NOT support Obama with that!

Instead, he signs an excutive order authorizing the payment of abortions in foreign countries. The American taxpayer is now on the hook for foreign countries! Dumb!!

It's a trust issue.

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12-30-2009 12:58 AM  7 years agoPost 16
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It's not right making hard working citizens pay for something like that anyway as it is not medically necessary and is the woman's choice. She is costing me money for something she could have avoided in the first place. Why should I pay for her mistakes?

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12-30-2009 02:07 AM  7 years agoPost 17
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They are trying to tear down our borders. Look at the viscious attack on our CIA by our own Gov!! Without our intelligence force where would we be?? Totally blind.

How is it that 80% of our media is in the bag for the Libtards? These arent even moderate libs that are ruling the USA right now, they are radical Socialists. I also think that most of the politicians on the Right is in the same bag and the American public is now a ping pong ball between them with the media play calling a rigged game.

Look at the Spec Op Seals being persecuted..You realize we are the last sovereign country with gun rights (Im pretty sure that is now the case)...The UN wants the 2nd ammendment abolished.

Ask yourself how you would really tear down the most powerful Nation in the history of the world? Id buy a whole political party, and infiltrate the schools of that society..Oh and put a foreign police/paramilitary force in place their law and order.

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12-30-2009 03:29 AM  7 years agoPost 18
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fwiw...

I don't give a $h!t if Interpol could cure cancer...The more we allow our freedom to erode, the more of us ill die trying to win it back..
Anyone follow the clown circus in Italy of the yearlong "trial" of the American co-ed accused of murder?...Now imagine these same idiots putting YOU on trial.
If Corrado and MSH ever leave Italy, the country's iq will drop to zero....

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12-30-2009 02:15 PM  7 years agoPost 19
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I'm not saying the decision was correct. I just get the feeling that many of you feel that everything has some hidden insidious motive behind it.

Many of you are too paranoid for your own good.

One thing many of you have yet to realize is that, for better or worse, the world will move on and advance. Whether or not you agree with it and adapt to the changes is your decision.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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12-30-2009 03:59 PM  7 years agoPost 20
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fwiw..

The world will indeed move on,,,Whether or not it is "advancing" is open to debate...I embrace any change that benefits freedom and mankind..This, for so many reasons, does not..

BC

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