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01-01-2010 07:01 PM  7 years agoPost 21
mattygsca

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i dont have a TX the heli i had has a socket that looks like it supports a power/charging led thats it so should i got one with the sim transmitter

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01-01-2010 07:07 PM  7 years agoPost 22
FlaG8r

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You dont have a transmitter? Regardless below are the supported TXs from Phoenix website.
The current supported transmitter list is as follows:

All JR MC/MX (no adaptor required) - ** MC-series requires "DSC Interface" Accessory **
Spektrum DX6 / DX6i / DX7 / DSX9 (no adaptor required) - ** NOT new DX7 Special Edition "SE" version **
Spektrum DX5e ("DX5e adaptor" required)
All Futaba ("Futaba round" or "Futaba square" adaptor required)
Futaba FX-18 with 2.5mm stereo training port ("Futaba FX-18" adaptor required)
Hitec Aurora (no adaptor required)
All Hitec except "Aurora" ("Hitec adaptor" required - "Aurora" requires no adaptor)
All Multiplex ("Multiplex" adaptor required)
All Sanwa RD and RDS series ("Sanwa adaptor" required)
E-sky ("Mini-DIN adaptor" required)
Co-Pilot ("Mini-DIN adaptor" required)
Blade CX-2 (no adaptor required)
Art-tech 100B (no adaptor required)
Art-tech 100C ("Art-tech 100C adaptor" required)
Walkera 2401, 2601 (Using "MINI-DIN adaptor" supplied with transmitter)
Walkera 2801 ("Walkera 2801 adaptor" required)

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01-01-2010 07:11 PM  7 years agoPost 23
mattygsca

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on heliguy there is a pack with the esky controller and everthing u need to use out the box it is £105 including pastage & packaging is that a ripoff or a bargain? thanks for the advice this all helps.

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01-01-2010 07:28 PM  7 years agoPost 24
Flying Brian

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thanks but that didnt answer my question.
Sure sounds like it did to me.
hi im new to the forums and the whole helicopter flying comunity, so far im loving it though i want some tips.
I knew this was going to happen, just take the advice, read up, and investigate all your options, for instance, buying high dollar simulators. Your gonna spend alot of money.

Yeah, good luck with your Simulator game channel.

I revert back to my original, Read the internet for free, and learn whats what first.
on heliguy there is a pack with the esky controller and everthing u need to use out the box it is £105 including pastage & packaging is that a ripoff or a bargain? thanks for the advice this all helps.
Again, investigate ALL your options first. Don't just jump right into the fisrt thing that everyone tells you. If you think its a rip off, shop around.

KNOW YOUR OPTIONS.

"I just don't Listen" "

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01-01-2010 07:34 PM  7 years agoPost 25
mattygsca

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sorry i meant the question does the pheonix sim come with a TX which u didnt answer tho i am going to read up which i have been doing + im getting the hang of hover. tho the problem is i cant use my heli outdoors as there always is wind which causes problems.

and as i hear buying sim is much cheaper than buying a new better heli each year so i plan to go with the sim

thnks

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01-01-2010 10:13 PM  7 years agoPost 26
Dusty1000

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on heliguy there is a pack with the esky controller and everthing u need to use out the box it is £105 including pastage & packaging is that a ripoff or a bargain?
It's neither a rip-off or a bargain, it's a fair price, you're unlikely to find it much cheaper.

Is a sim really what you want though? For less money you could buy a Honey Bee FP. This heli comes with a cable to connect the TX to a pc, and a (free) sim which isn't very good, though there are better free sims you can use with the included cable.

Flying a real single rotor heli is MUCH more fun than flying pixels. BTW I have Phoenix... and an HBFP.

http://www.heliguy.com/Electric-RC-...e/Honey-Bee-V2/

The HBFP is a great first single rotor heli for all the reasons stated here:

http://www.eflightwiki.com/eflightw...elicopter_Guide

Good luck

Dusty

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01-01-2010 11:03 PM  7 years agoPost 27
mattygsca

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thanks dusty u always answer my question + make a better suggestion all the tips i have got are helping me with my apache, and that heli u recomended would be great along with the free sim another guy said. my ideas are coming together now and i think the heli + free TX cable and sim would be the best bet. any other suggestions are welcome tho

thanks

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01-06-2010 02:08 PM  7 years agoPost 28
mydartswinger

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Fort Bragg, NC - USA

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You've been given quite a few excellent suggestions.

Here's another way of doing it:
Stick with the heli you have now and get a quality sim as mentioned before (either RealFlight or Phoenix). If you can't get one of those, at least get some kind of sim. Use the sim to improve your skills while using your current heli to scratch the itch to get away from "flying pixels". This will give you some "think time" on wether or not this is a hobby that you really will enjoy. If you don't like the helis, you can always use the sim for airplanes as well. You will LOVE the helis, though .

While in the simulator and coaxial stage, continue learning about your heli as well as more advanced helis. Look for Finless Bob's heli tech videos online for lessons on setting up the more complex helis. Also research RADDs school of rotary flight to help you get off the ground when you're ready to fly a more advanced heli. Even practice it on the sim.

Once you feel comfortable with basic flight on the sim, look at getting a better heli. This is where your budget will come into play. If your budget is very tight (under US$200 or about GBP 100, if I remember the exchange rate correctly), go with a fixed pitch heli, such as the HBFP. If you can afford to spend 2-3 times that, get at least a 450 class such as an e-Flite Blade 400, Align T-Rex 450, Thunder Tiger E325 or similar (there are quite a few good models to choose from, many that I did not list here). If your budget is more than for an FP, but less than a 450, look at an HK 450 (a cheap copy of the Align T-Rex 450 that if you crash enough and buy Align parts, you'll eventually have a T-Rex). You'll have to build it, choose the electronics, download a T-Rex manual, and get your radio yourself, but it's a good experience to do that.

Avoid the $200 motor driven tail CP helis (AKA 300 class). They are very difficult to fly, and will become a money pit. They are often marketed as "step-up" helis, but are more suited to an advanced pilot (though most advanced pilots would likely rather have a 450 class). I had 2 of these, upgraded with all the "bling", and they were on the bench broken more than fixed and flown. I never learned anything about CP helis with these except how to crash. I learned more when I stepped into a 450 class.

Remember that whatever your next heli is, expect to spend about half of the basic mechanics' cost in a crash. (ie, if you get an E325, the basic mechanics cost about US$120-US$130, plus electronics. Your crash cost will run between US$30 and $US70) The more comlex the helicopter, the more that will break in a crash, thus the more the crash cost will be. This is one reason why an FP comes highly recommended my many, as they are of a simple design and cheaper to repair in a crash. Look at the parts cost for each heli considered, find out what parts are commonly broke on that particular model, and tally up the total crash cost. If you can't afford a crash, look for a cheaper heli.

Bigger helis will be more stable and easier to fly than the smaller helis. However, they are exponentially more expensive.

That being said, get the most (good quality, good size for your flying area, good parts availability, most stable, etc...) heli you can afford (both purchase and crash costs).

Keep the drive, do your research, and ask questions. There is no such thing as a dumb question.

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01-06-2010 02:35 PM  7 years agoPost 29
colsy

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Cambridge, UK

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Hi matty. contra style helis are a good starting point in terms of getting a feel for things.

Some Advice: fill in youre profile m8.
Are we dealing with a 13 year old or a 40 year old 'it does make a difference'.

Also if you appear to be lazy, you may miss out on replys from usefull people as they think you cant be 'arsed'.

For example its obvious on the phonex site that a 3rd party transmitter is required.

Its not critisism as such, more advice.

Col.

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