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12-28-2009 12:23 PM  7 years agoPost 1
mattygsca

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hi im new to the forums and the whole helicopter flying comunity, so far im loving it though i want some tips.
i have bought an apache gt3, 4 channel electric heli here is the link:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=220889

is this a good starter heli?
how do i hone my skills as i can control were i go and the speed, is there some sort of test to know when u are ready to move onto bigger and better helis.

finally are there any little formations or tricks i should do as good practise?

thank you very much matt

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12-28-2009 12:29 PM  7 years agoPost 2
povern

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Get a sim.

Everything else will fall into place.

You will know if the heli is good enough for you.

You will know (want) a bigger heli.

But the sim will save you money. Go with Pheonix or realflight. Pick up a used one here in the classifieds.

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12-28-2009 12:37 PM  7 years agoPost 3
mattygsca

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thanks for the input how do they cost and as i live in engliand could this affect me getting one?

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12-28-2009 12:37 PM  7 years agoPost 4
JRjoe

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+1 Get a sim.

Go find your local club and find out what those guys are flying and why.


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12-28-2009 12:40 PM  7 years agoPost 5
mattygsca

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ok i will definately bug my dad for a sim.
about the club thing.. i dont think there are any near me i got into helis watching a guy at a store flying a small one around for advertisment.

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12-28-2009 12:41 PM  7 years agoPost 6
T-Rex-Flyer

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That's a toy to play with in the house to get you're feet wet, but to find out if you're going to want to get into heli's, seek out others in the hobby at a flying field or club near you.

Help us get to know you by filling out your profile.

And welcome to the addiction.

If the wings are traveling faster than the fuselage, it's probably a helicopter.

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12-28-2009 12:48 PM  7 years agoPost 7
mattygsca

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i will fill out my profile in a minute, ive only ever seen 1 person flying a heli at the field near me, he does acrobatic stuff but i think fining him will beluck more than judgement, ill do my best uv been great help ill definaly try to get a sim.

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12-28-2009 12:56 PM  7 years agoPost 8
predatorman

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Get that Sim!!!

'Phoenix' is a good one, so is 'Realflight' either way its better to get one with a dummy radio with it IMHO.

I started with a very basic sim a few years back. Loved every minute of learning too!

The Apache heli you are looking at will fit the bill for learning..at not too high a price. Make sure its radio is 'Mode 2' which is the more common control setup...ie left stick is UP/DOWN and YAW (RUDDER) LEFT/RIGHT...the RIGHT stick being the 'cyclic' ie FORWARDS/BACKWARDS ROLL/LEFT and RIGHT.

Look for 'Mode 2' anyway.

The Apache will be ok indoors in a nice big room. Outside it might not fly too well as even a light breeze will cause problems.

A Club is a good idea, its not important right now but it wont hurt to look one up. If you get bitten by the bug you might want a more serious model...even the RTF ones need checking over before flying. You can do this yourself but having a more experienced person is priceless.

Quality takes........time!

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12-28-2009 01:07 PM  7 years agoPost 9
Dusty1000

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Phoenix is a great sim, and the company is based in England.

Does your budget allow for a sim? Phoenix or realflight will cost more than your heli. There is a half-decent free sim called HeliSimRC which you can download here:
http://www.marksfiles.net/HeliSimRC/index.htm
You would just need a cable to connect your TX to your PC

Hope you have some fun with your Apache

Dusty

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12-28-2009 01:19 PM  7 years agoPost 10
mattygsca

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i probably cant get the im until my birthday which is in july so until then i guess its crashing and repair costs

if i downloaded that free one what wuld i have to connect to my computer a TX? what is that?

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12-28-2009 02:35 PM  7 years agoPost 11
predatorman

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Ah...you can get a cheapo sim with the dummy radio and USB cable at 'Midland Helis' look up the company...they are UK based...you can get this sim for under 30 quid I think.

Its based on FMS which is a free sim...just that you dont have to find the cable and radio to 'fly'

Good luck and happy hunting!

Quality takes........time!

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12-28-2009 02:53 PM  7 years agoPost 12
JRjoe

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There probably is a club near you.

Look around here: http://www.rc-airplane-world.com/rc...nties-MtoO.html


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12-28-2009 03:25 PM  7 years agoPost 13
predatorman

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Here you go, round about 26 quid?

http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/a..._FlightSim.html

Quality takes........time!

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12-28-2009 05:40 PM  7 years agoPost 14
mattygsca

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that was great help thanks that sim looks good + the club thing may be ok though its about 14 miles out of my way.

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12-28-2009 07:31 PM  7 years agoPost 15
predatorman

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Get s@it hot on the sim and the rest becomes easier.

I was about 10 months on a basic sim while saving up for my first model and radio set. Building and setting up the model was quite good fun...and after hovering about for 5 mins I was off around the field with it...gently of course. Never looked back after that.

The difference between the basic sims and the more expensive is: the models are more realistic...to a degree..plus you can alter the weight etc so as they fly different...plus you can use the various switches like 'throttle hold' and 'idle up'.

I say, get what you can afford...and learn it well.

Its not a bad idea to find some books on the subject of rc helis...doesnt hurt to read up. Dvds help as well...and can help explain setting up a model so it handles well.

Quality takes........time!

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12-30-2009 11:07 PM  7 years agoPost 16
FlaG8r

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Florida

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Tips....buy Phoenix sim, don't buy that heli, save up your money and buy a 600 or larger. Easier to learn on, hover, will save you thousands in the long run.

OR buy that coaxial, than by a better coaxial, then a 450, then a 500, then a 600.

Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid

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01-01-2010 02:38 PM  7 years agoPost 17
mattygsca

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ok ill take your advice, i have that heli which i will still practise on, and i have just short of the pheonix asking price tho i can get it easliy. but do i get everything i need? TX softwear and connection cable? thanks.

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01-01-2010 03:03 PM  7 years agoPost 18
Flying Brian

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I think the best way to get a fast jump start in this hobby is to READ everything in which this hobby has to offer. Goggle every question your mind has. There are many sites that will give you the tools you need to build, fly, crash, and re-peat.

Buy your heli first, learn to build it, read more, and then learn to hover. Get the SIM later on. Spend your hard earned money on a solid kit that flys right.

"I just don't Listen" "

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01-01-2010 06:45 PM  7 years agoPost 19
mattygsca

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thanks but that didnt answer my question do i get the actual controller with pheonix or do i have to buy one seperate or a pack for incresed price.

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01-01-2010 06:51 PM  7 years agoPost 20
FlaG8r

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when you order Phoenix Sim, you get a disc and a USB wire that plugs into your TX. It's all you need to use it.

Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid

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