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HelicopterMain Discussion › DX7se vs. X9303 - seeing through the smoke
12-29-2009 10:58 PM  7 years agoPost 41
Dilbeck

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After using all types of transmitters I found DX7 is the best for the job I need it to do

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12-30-2009 08:30 AM  7 years agoPost 42
Popadel

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My 2,3555768c

I have both. I bought the X9030 first and now use that for the Sim and the DX7SE for flying. One can write up all the verbiage and still not convey the feeling from using the DX7SE. Only way is to try it and see for yourself.

I do acknowledge that the X9030 is far superior on the programming side and may be better suited to Nitro where you need additional options and 8 channels, but for large and small E helies, id be hard pressed to find a better TX. Also as there are 3 mixes you can sort out swash interactions on the E>A; A>E and E>P for smooth 3D at any pace.

Personally I choose functionality over what it looks nice even if at times this eats my ego at the field ..lol. I also inserted 2 more ball bearings on the horizontal gimbals axis (2.5X4X7 which I matched from somewhere on the 450SE – note the vertical MUST be 2X4X7) and it feels smoother than my X9030 and even the DX12) I also fly with a very soft E, A and T spring tension and a hard Ruder spring tension and again the DX7SE wins.

My own belief is that if they improved the mixing options and added in the missing 140 deg swash, you’d have the best possible heli Tx. Period.

Srimok 90 - OS 91 HZ PS ; Trex 600ESP 12S 560 scorpion; Trex 450 Pro Scorpion 222-6; Trex 250 SE

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12-30-2009 02:58 PM  7 years agoPost 43
rudyy

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135/140 CCPM

This is one important feature why I go for 9303.

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DX7se Key Features
Amazing 11-millisecond frame rate
2048 resolution
Special Edition neck strap included
Throttle Curve (3) (5-point mix)
Pitch Curve (4) (5-point mix)
Revolution Mix
Gyro Sensing
Swashplate Type (1-servo normal, 2-servo 180, 3-servo 90, & 3-servo 120)Programmable Mix (3)
20-Model Memory
Model Select
Model Name
Model Type Select
Model Reset
Throttle Recovery
Input Select (Switch for Aux 2 & Gear Channels)
Dual Rate Switch Select
Timer
3-Axis (Dual Rate & Expo)
Exponential
Servo Reverse
Sub Trims
Travel Adjustments
Servo Monitor
Note: the trainer function has been removed from the DX7se

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12-30-2009 06:15 PM  7 years agoPost 44
Sillyness

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FWIW... I just found out that the X9303 DOES have Pilot Link like the DX7, but it is not in the manual and there is no screen for it.

If you go to the trainer screen and set all 4 toggles to SLAVE, it enters pilot link mode.

What's this mean?

You can connect any 4-channel radio to yours... the 9303 as the master... and and all this happens:
-4-channels sends only the basic 4 channels to the 9303
-X9303 mixes the 4 channels into: eCCPM, Throttle Curves, Pitch Curves, ATVs, Expo, D/R, etc... basically the X9303 or DX7 do all the thinking FOR the trainer box.
-Also, the switches on the X9303 still function to change rates, flight modes, etc...

I thought this was exclusive to the DX7 and the 10X, but apparently it's hidden in the X9303 as well. I use it a lot to give guys intro heli flights or get guys from hovering into FFF.

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12-30-2009 11:19 PM  7 years agoPost 45
asm

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I thought this was exclusive to the DX7 and the 10X, but apparently it's hidden in the X9303 as well. I use it a lot to give guys intro heli flights or get guys from hovering into FFF
Well, you thought wrong.

This type of selective training mode has been available on higher end radio like JR9303, Futaba 9C for many years. DX7 is the first low end radio that offers this capability.

FPV guys has been using 9C selective training mode to allow their head tracking device to control their on-board pan-tile camera's motion while they fly their aircraft.

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12-31-2009 12:23 AM  7 years agoPost 46
Dilbeck

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Looks like or it would seem that the DX7/DX7SE may well be the best value for the dollar hands down with all things considered.

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12-31-2009 01:58 AM  7 years agoPost 47
Jeff polisena

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Well, you thought wrong.
Easy now this is how we learn

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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12-31-2009 02:04 AM  7 years agoPost 48
FenwayRick

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All the bells and whistles, but still no backlight in either of the two.

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12-31-2009 04:15 AM  7 years agoPost 49
asm

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Easy now this is how we learn
Didn't mean for that to come across as harsh as it did. I apologize.
Looks like or it would seem that the DX7/DX7SE may well be the best value for the dollar hands down with all things considered.
Agree, but I would leave DX7SE out of the "best value" as it's completely useless in trainer box scenario.

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12-31-2009 06:03 AM  7 years agoPost 50
Popadel

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135 gives "0" interaction where as 140 still has some interactipon. using the 140 seting in the Tx on a 135 head is seems to be defeating the purpose? Not sure, just a thought. So both 9030 and DX7 fail here.

Srimok 90 - OS 91 HZ PS ; Trex 600ESP 12S 560 scorpion; Trex 450 Pro Scorpion 222-6; Trex 250 SE

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12-31-2009 06:47 AM  7 years agoPost 51
asm

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135 gives "0" interaction where as 140 still has some interactipon. using the 140 seting in the Tx on a 135 head is seems to be defeating the purpose? Not sure, just a thought. So both 9030 and DX7 fail here.
Unless I missed a post, where did you find the info that 135 has less interaction then 140? Mathematically, it just doesn't make any sense.

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12-31-2009 12:19 PM  7 years agoPost 52
Jeff polisena

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Oviously there are some lacking chariteristics on dx7/se but if you are at a level where degree of swash Is critical it might not be for you .
The number of pilots that use true degre settings are not as great as those that get by with dx7/se so I do agree it is worth the money for what you get as far as fuctionality

I stole it ,flew it and gave it back ;)

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01-01-2010 05:17 PM  7 years agoPost 53
Sillyness

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To confuse matters:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Product...?ProdID=JRP2930

On the 140 thing... JR elected to call the system 140 for marketing, but it is REALLY 135... ask Curtis if you need to... he came up with it.

http://www.curtisyoungblood.com/faqs/search.php?id=948

As for the SE... I don't use a sim, but I do use the trainer function to try and get guys hooked and build our little heli empire. Mooohahahahahahah!

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01-01-2010 06:23 PM  7 years agoPost 54
rudyy

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Another important functionality that 9303 has but not the DX7 is the data transfer via a simple buddy cord from one tx to another. Just a few clicks on the scroll buttons and both the txs will be in synch. So if you need to send the 9303 to horizon hobby for repair/maintenance, this data transfer to your backup transmitter plays a big role. I am sure people with multiple helis like this feature a lot.

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