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HelicopterBeginners Corner › Starting a heli with a drill !
12-28-2009 03:39 PM  7 years agoPost 21
LonRrrElite Veteran - Macomb,Mi - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Dilbeck
Remember if your using a drill and looking down on the starter its spins counter clockwise and from what i see needs torque for up to 3lbs and not many drills and do that while spinning at least 1000 rpm which is required to pull in fuel on its own (that's from an O.S. engine rep) only drills that can cut the mustard are hammer drills but none spin at required speed NONE!!! unless you got something crazy but a store bought will never go there for you!!! 400-600 rpm maybe MAX
That statment is total hog wash! If your engine is not flooded and tuned properly, any Dewalt 12volt drill in reverse will turn it over in a second with no problems. I gave up on those fancy starters once the gears stripped TWICE and the rubber collar gave way. Got out the Dewalt in a pinch due to the LHS was closed, and what do you know, worked better and is still working to this day! Oh and by the way the fancy starter lasted 2 weeks. Dewalt drill 2 years and counting!!!
I 100% agree with ya Dilbeck.Ive been useing a drill for a long time too.My Makita with a old 9.6V battery starts 50's and 90's all day long .

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12-28-2009 08:38 PM  7 years agoPost 22
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Ive been useing a drill for a long time too.My Makita with a old 9.6V battery starts 50's and 90's all day long .
So what is the word? The drill seems to work for 50s and 90s alike. Maybe some are just pissed that those high dollar new fangled starters are no better than what they already had in their tool box. Flame suite on.

Clint

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12-28-2009 11:13 PM  7 years agoPost 23
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The thing that cracks me up is the guys that say drills are too weak and won't start a 50 size heli,then theres guys that say drills are too strong but they have no problems sticking a 6 cell lipo on there starter LOL.They brag about how there lipo powered starter is strong enough to start a car but they turn around and say a drill will damage a motor .The good battery I have in the top pic has duct tape holding the batterys in,its about 4 years old and has enough life left to start a 50 and 90 size heli maybe 7 times each a day.I wouldn't trade my drill for a new Align starter because it works just as good,you never know when you need to screw somthing together and my battery is 5 times cheaper and last 3 years longer.If someone has a heli like MA then they can't use a drill because theres no oneway bearing in the starter shaft on the heli but thats just a guess on my part.
Dilbeck
The drill seems to work for 50s and 90s alike. Maybe some are just pissed that those high dollar new fangled starters are no better than what they already had in their tool box. Flame suite on.
Agreed and I also think the price gos to there heads "I have $175.00 dollars in my align starter/lipo and its the best" .

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12-29-2009 01:04 AM  7 years agoPost 24
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Ok, lets see you guys start a prop engine with those drills, as I am sure a lot of guys just use the starters they already have as I did. A drill also has more torque, enough to bend or break parts if it locks. The drill is geared slower and produces more torque, we need speed, not excessive torque. Also you are not getting it NOBODY said a drill would not work.

Chris

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12-29-2009 01:48 AM  7 years agoPost 25
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airdodger
A drill also has more torque, enough to bend or break parts if it locks.
and so will a starter with a lipo,seen it happen with my own eyes and theres also threads here about it so whats your point .
airdodger
Ok, lets see you guys start a prop engine with those drill
Whats that have to do with helis,you did read the topic right .
airdodger
Also you are not getting it NOBODY said a drill would not work.
LjCraft12
only drills that can cut the mustard are hammer drills but none spin at required speed NONE!!! unless you got something crazy but a store bought will never go there for you!!! 400-600 rpm maybe MAX
Seems LjCraft12 said the only drills that work are hammer drills,im 200% sure mines not a hammer drill.Its a regular drill with forward/reverse,high and low speeds.

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12-29-2009 02:06 AM  7 years agoPost 26
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Also you are not getting it NOBODY said a drill would not work.
only drills that can cut the mustard are hammer drills but none spin at required speed NONE!!! unless you got something crazy but a store bought will never go there for you!!!
OK???

Clint

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12-29-2009 02:10 AM  7 years agoPost 27
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Thats all we use! The way we see it; its like it was said before; its in the tool box already and works, so the $$ we save in starters and batteries is $$$ for parts and nitro


PS None of those drills are hammer just regular drills.

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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12-29-2009 11:17 AM  7 years agoPost 28
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Flyinghigh450 Better reread I never mentioned anything about a hammerdrill.

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12-29-2009 12:17 PM  7 years agoPost 29
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Where do you find the extended 6mm alan wrench?

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12-29-2009 11:58 PM  7 years agoPost 30
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Where do you find the extended 6mm alan wrench?
Are you asking about the shafts that we use with drills?

We use the helis starter shafts, and another way you can do it and its even cheaper is the starter shaft for nitro cars; it also works and is cheaper!

PS Your drill needs to be directional (you can change direction of it; almost all drills are like that now) and I prefer the drills that have the "clutch" system and adjustable speed; that way you can set it how you want and or need

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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01-03-2010 04:51 PM  7 years agoPost 31
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a drill starter

sad to say i have had to resort to using a craftsman 19.2 or 19.1 volt drill with the raptor shaft several times to start my raptor 50 titen works great just make sure you have it turning the correct DIRECTION. lol

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01-03-2010 05:21 PM  7 years agoPost 32
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sad to say i have had to resort to using a craftsman 19.2 or 19.1 volt drill
Whats so sad about that? 19.1/19.2 volt?110/120/210/240

Clint

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01-03-2010 06:52 PM  7 years agoPost 33
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Good post. Glad to hear that I dont need to waste the money on a starter now.

Gravity SUCKS!!!!!

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01-03-2010 08:38 PM  7 years agoPost 34
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works great just make sure you have it turning the correct DIRECTION. lol
Yup it has to be set in the "reverse"(the opposite way of normal drilling) direction. Just make a habit of double checking it before using it.
Good post. Glad to hear that I dont need to waste the money on a starter now
Thats $$ for nitro and parts!

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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01-15-2010 09:15 PM  7 years agoPost 35
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I would not use a hammer drill in hammer mode!! Yes they have the power but not only rotate but move up and down at high rate( for drilling concrete or other similar materials) and could cause serious damage to engine.

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01-15-2010 10:20 PM  7 years agoPost 36
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I would not use a hammer drill in hammer mode!! Yes they have the power but not only rotate but move up and down at high rate( for drilling concrete or other similar materials) and could cause serious damage to engine.

I dont suffer from mental iIlness, I actually enjoy mine!

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01-15-2010 10:29 PM  7 years agoPost 37
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^ LOL

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