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10-23-2009 11:39 AM  8 years agoPost 1
jzanuttorrApprentice - Fresno, CA - My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Dr. Tim has a new kit out, the W Cobra. It is designed around the Swift 16, according to the manual it fits perfectly. Not sure what else would fit in there, I can give some measurements once I get the fuselage that far along. Its equivalent to a .30 nitro size.

I will do a build with pics, its a pre-release kit the real kits are scheduled to be on the market on November 1st, available through starwood models website where I bought my other cobra. Dr. Tim says the plans are still not ready yet so that's the holdup for now. Contact Starwood by email for availability.

It is a complete kit, including everything for the tail rotor belt drive. The only thing not in this kit is some of the little paper tube ordinances, but I think you could do those yourself cheaply, or maybe starwood has a little kit for that.

No build pics just yet, but here's the kit box along with my swift.

this is an affordable build, the swift kit is only 189, and Tim says this one will be the price of the other little E-cobra. this one being a pre-release was offered cheaper cuz its missing the plans. his kits are affordable

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10-23-2009 01:03 PM  8 years agoPost 2
Hoverup

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Great news. The Whiskey is here. Dr. Tim does it again. Subscribed.

Cheers - Boyd
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10-23-2009 02:38 PM  8 years agoPost 3
WrenFlyer

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I'll be watching, That Swift kit is super easy to convert to FBL.....Do it man, do it!

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10-23-2009 02:40 PM  8 years agoPost 4
WrenFlyer

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When you get a chance, I'd love to see a pic of the canopy.

Mr. Haney

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10-23-2009 05:28 PM  8 years agoPost 5
Heli143

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flybarless swift

wrenflyer
you have peaked my interest in the FLB swift.
I have two swifts and would be interesetd in using one for such a project as a learning tool into the world of FBL helis.

Sorry if this seems like a thread hijack, but the long story is a FBL Swift in the Cobra would be awsome.

I will do a search for the subject and see what I find.

thanks.

Roy Mayoral

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10-23-2009 05:30 PM  8 years agoPost 6
DogWood

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this should be a good build :-)

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10-23-2009 05:36 PM  8 years agoPost 7
WrenFlyer

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wrenflyer
you have peaked my interest in the FLB swift.
I have two swifts and would be interesetd in using one for such a project as a learning tool into the world of FBL helis
I have a really detailed thread on RCG if you want to take a look. It covers from building and test flying the Swift pod and boom FBL all the way till now. Including the Approach Cobra build.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=960524

Mr. Haney

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10-23-2009 05:40 PM  8 years agoPost 8
jzanutto

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I dont care what anyone posts as long as its somewhat related....

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10-23-2009 05:44 PM  8 years agoPost 9
WrenFlyer

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Jan, If I can help in anyway, let me know. My 30 size Cobra build is fairly fresh in my head.

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10-23-2009 05:47 PM  8 years agoPost 10
WrenFlyer

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Have you decided on a power system yet?

Mr. Haney

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10-23-2009 06:02 PM  8 years agoPost 11
jzanutto

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well, I'm a cheap son of a gun.

but, in all honesty I looked at available power combos for the swift on their website and they sell an entry level combo that uses a 550 motor and 4 cell battery, lower amps. I think the ESC is only a 65.

So for scale flying, why couldnt I use the lower power combo. Its a lot cheaper, and I wouldnt doubt if I got a longer flight time out of it as well. maybe a 4 cell 4000mah pack.

everyone says you need a lower head speed on these scale ships, and I also was wondering, should I even set up my negative pitch mode?

do you guys fly your scale birds with just normal collective and throttle?

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10-23-2009 06:10 PM  8 years agoPost 12
GrantL

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Jan, I use a -3 to +9 pitch curve and a 1700 rpm head speed.. Served me very well..

Grant

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10-23-2009 08:06 PM  8 years agoPost 13
DBlum

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jzanutto, I had the Century 550 combo on my Swift in an Approach Apache. It did fly it but there wasn't a whole lot left over in the power dept. Flight times were short and the battery got pretty hot. A better battery might help. I still have the combo if you want to try it. I'll make you a real good deal . You may also have trouble getting the CG right with the 4s battery.

Dave

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10-23-2009 08:13 PM  8 years agoPost 14
jzanutto

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ah David, I really liked that Herr Little extra..... but thats another subject for another post....

here is the canopy, its one piece and there are trim lines on it.

I will see david, thanks for the offer

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10-23-2009 10:13 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Heli143

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Thanks Jan, understood and I am definitely interested in an Approach Cobra.

Wrenflyer, thanks for the info, it will definitely get used for the Swift mechanics.

Roy Mayoral

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10-24-2009 03:45 AM  8 years agoPost 16
jzanutto

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well it sort of builds like the big cobra, but the center fuselage starts with this box assembly. Instead of gluing ply doublers to the fuselage sides, and adding bulkheads, this thing gets put together first and then the fuse sides get glued to it.

the laser cutting and fit are phenomenal - this box builds right in your hands and it is square and true. Then the chassis will sit on some hardwood blocks, they arent on here yet. Its hard to explain but the swift chassis sits kinda high in the fuselage, leaving a big box area underneath for the rudder servo, ESC and whatever else. The battery box up front is huge looking.

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10-24-2009 04:59 PM  8 years agoPost 17
GrantL

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This is going to be very interesting..

Grant

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10-24-2009 05:59 PM  8 years agoPost 18
Hoverup

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Spoke with Doctor Tim this morning and my "Whiskey" is ordered and should be on it's way next week. I will be doing an off line review to provide feedback to Dr. Tim. There are only three kits going out early to support what is called in the restaurant business a "soft opening". The Super Cobra kits will be available to the public in November at http://www.starwoodmodels.com.Just click on the Approach Engineering tab and when you see the Super Cobra listed there it will be time to buy.

Cheers - Boyd
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10-24-2009 07:46 PM  8 years agoPost 19
Dr.Tim

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I took the Ridge out of the Canopy ... it fits and looks 100% better!!

Always improving!
Dr.Tim

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10-24-2009 08:38 PM  8 years agoPost 20
jzanutto

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you mean the molded structural frame?

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