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10-20-2009 01:29 AM  8 years agoPost 1
InvertedDude

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10-20-2009 04:55 AM  8 years agoPost 2
debogus

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The index is 13 pages ,the total is over 1500.

Would it really matter is someone can read this and actualy find the problem sections.

We have representives that vote for their agenda and the people are 80% against the issue.(Bail outs ,imigration ,cap n tax)

They dont CARE what we want.
Wonder what the total page count will be in the version that Barry signs ? Think he will have it counted or care if somethings snuck in.

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10-20-2009 01:53 PM  8 years agoPost 3
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The final version that gets signed into law will include abortion on demand covered by taxpayers who oppose that. It will cover all of the illegals despite all promises it will not. Within 3 to 5 years private health insurance will no longer exist and everyone in the country will have their healthcare under the total control of the government. Despite all assurances there will be rationing. despite all assurances people will be told to take a painkiller and suck it up. Despite all assurances the quality of healthcare in America will go down the tubes. Say goodbye to pharmaceutical research. Say goodbye to healthcare.

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10-20-2009 04:09 PM  8 years agoPost 4
debogus

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Wouldnt suprize me one bit if they put in ,sign up for insurance, and instantly receive citizenship

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10-20-2009 05:15 PM  8 years agoPost 5
rander1

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Honestly funding abortions and illegals are the last things you guys should be worried about in this plan.

Just from skimming the bill (See around page 586) You see they talk about "Health Risk Assessment"

It seems that everyone will have to get a health risk assessment based on a retarded amount of factors (BMI, Weight, lifestyle, location of residence, past personal and family medical history, smoking, drinking, etc...) and it seems your rate will be determined on this risk assessment.

This means the will "own" you and what you have to pay for insurance. And forget shopping around for private plans because you can only be on a private plan if you previously had one.(See section "subpart 3" Meaning if it ever terminates your stuck on the govt. plan.

So forget your freedom on how to live, they are going to rape you in "mandatory" health costs based on how you live your life everyday. If you live unhealty... you get raped and there is nothing you can do about it...

Completely obsured! They will OWN you and tell you how they want YOU to live!!! (Read the bill)

I mean look at the name America's Healthy Future Act... .they want to force everyone to live what they determine as healthy...

Austrailia is looking pretty good right now...

Tic Toc Tic Toc

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10-20-2009 05:22 PM  8 years agoPost 6
FrankC

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Rander, I mention those two things as examples of how we are being lied to. We are told over and over that these things will not be in the final bill and yet every attempt to put the language in the bill to ban these things is voted down by the democrats. I cite these two things to show their total lack of honesty. This ties in with your point, they repeatedly say they are not trying to control health care and will not dictate what we receive, yet that is exactly where they are determined to take us.

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10-20-2009 05:23 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Dennis (RIP)

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This ties in with your point, they repeatedly say they are not trying to control health care and will not dictate what we receive, yet that is exactly where they are determined to take us.
It will never pass and become law.

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10-20-2009 05:34 PM  8 years agoPost 8
rander1

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The Secretary shall establish procedures to
19 make beneficiaries and providers aware of the requirement
20 that a beneficiary complete a health risk assessment prior
21 to or at the same time as receiving personalized prevention
22 plan services.
21 described in subparagraph (A), are reccommended with a grade of A or B by the United States Preventive Services Task
Force for any indication or population
Keyword: US Preventative Services Task Force

So what do they do??? Hmm... lets see:

They assign a;
Personalized prevention plan services that are
15 provided to a beneficiary within the period of 12 months
16 after the date that such beneficiary’s first coverage period
17 begins under part B shall be required to include any ele
18 ments included under paragraphs (2) and (3).’’.
Then they force you to;
To the extent practicable, the Secretary shall
4 encourage the use of, integration with, and coordination
5 of health information technology (including use of tech
6 nology that is compatible with electronic medical records
7 and personal health records) and may experiment with the
8 use of personalized technology to aid in the management
9 of and adherence to provider recommendations in order
10 to improve the health status of beneficiaries.
What does this mean??? They will tell you how to eat, excersize, what you can and cannot do, and will make you liable to hold to their pre-determined plan to be able to stay on it. Then if you get kicked off?? guess what... fined...

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