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HelicopterAntiques or Out of Business › What size is a Schluter Superior?
01-03-2010 05:01 AM  7 years agoPost 121
Dr.Ben

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Dave,

RE the pushrod coupler, MA used pretty much the exact same part on the original XC-60:

http://www.ronlund.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=heli&Product_Code=MA0385

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01-03-2010 05:11 AM  7 years agoPost 122
ddavison

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Boy, Terry, Ben this is bringing back memories, building blades, making wooden servo trays, mechanical gyros, replacing carbs, A step up from the Kavan days though. Heliboys with mechanical throttle, pitch mixing, black chalkboard shelf covering then black heat shrink covering that warped the blades in the sun. The Champion was my favorite Schulter machine though. They held onto that wooden rear servo tray former for way too long.

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01-03-2010 05:21 AM  7 years agoPost 123
TMoore

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Yep Dave, this is real gray beard stuff for sure. Back then all of our successes could be attributed to FM. I can remember when I got an Airtronics CS5H TX with AM RX and partied in the street in front of my house because it had travel adjust on throttle as well as a few more channels. The C VII had endpoints on throttle if I remember correctly and all this made throttle curves a lot easier to set up. You know, throttle curves, the actual relation of throttle to pitch that we did with servo arms and throttle levers and no computers.

I can remember slotting wood blades, loading them up with lead and balancing them on razor blades with a triple beam Ohaus to check the OAW not to mention the Schluter blade balancer that made this stuff a lot easier and then we got the KRP. Remember toothpicking up a head for balancing on the High Point?

If all this wasn't enough fun for you, how about Mike Mas when he flew the Champion and would show up and forget his fuel pump. Who needs a fuel pump with a Champion, Helistar, Superior, Scout or Magic, just unscrew the cap and pour directly from the can. I always told Mike this was the real Mas Technique.

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01-03-2010 05:41 AM  7 years agoPost 124
dkshema

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While we're discussing TR pushrods, joiners, and clamps...

Would anyone happen to know the length of the two TR pushrod pieces in the Superior kit that USED the metal rod instead of nyrod type material?

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01-03-2010 05:41 AM  7 years agoPost 125
GimbalFan (RIP)

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this is real gray beard stuff for sure.

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01-03-2010 06:34 AM  7 years agoPost 126
Wayne Mann

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I just found this thread. Boy does this bring back a lot of fond memories...except for the cracking motor mounts. This was the first helicopter I ever owned. I traded an EU1A pattern plane for the kit. Since I was into pattern back then and pretty good with fiberglassing and painting I performed said treatment to the rotor blades. I still have that set of rotor blades hanging on the wall. They have been in a controlled enviroment since the early 80s, but I don't think I have the balls to actually bring them up into a hover.

When I got the kit I could already hover as my brother had a Baron 20 that he taught me how to hover, but no nose in yet. We would go to the field and fly around with the big machines and then go to the Mall at night to learn how to really hover...nose in and pirouettes. I did my first loop, roll and inverted flight with this helicopter. The first loops and rolls were with an airplane radio, no idle ups. We just camed the throttle and made sure that we didn't pull back on the collective too far.

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01-03-2010 01:09 PM  7 years agoPost 127
DJoyce

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I had one back in the day. Would kinda like to try it again with modern servos, blades, and engine.

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01-03-2010 05:40 PM  7 years agoPost 128
scott011422

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Dave, That kit looks great! Much better job than I would have done. Didn't even think about sealing the wood. That kit was deffenatly better off in your hands than mine!

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01-03-2010 06:25 PM  7 years agoPost 129
dkshema

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Wayne -- the EU1A was a large plane for its time. I was living in Kansas City at the time I owned my Superior. I remember a fellow who flew with us at KCRC who had one of those. It was a monster for its time and as I recall, flew quite nicely.

Scott -- thanks for the opportunity to build this. When I get some flying shots, I'll post them here.

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01-03-2010 08:26 PM  7 years agoPost 130
dkshema

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Being a pack-rat sometimes is a useful sideline, though you never know when it will come in handy.

All this talk about pushrods, tail boom clamps, joiners...got me to digging around in some very old boxes of stuff. Nuts, bolts, screws, old skid clamps, and what to my wondering eyes did appear (it is still the Christmas season, you know) but a small bit of plastic -- the elusive control rod joiner. And it was nestled in among a set of four used, but quite usable tail boom clamps.

And a PM from HeliAdict tells me he has both the short and long push rods, new in the package. What a great place RR is.

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01-03-2010 10:22 PM  7 years agoPost 131
ErichF

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The Schluter Superior was the first RC helicopter I saw do any aerobatics, circa 1988. It was owned and flown by Jack Noell of Noell's Hobbies in Wildwood, FL. It was at some funfly in central FL somewhere. Beautiful bird. Good work bringing this one to the life it never got to live yet.

And, kudos for you building those blades up. I don't remember how many woodies I've built over my early years...don't care to go back to 'em myself!

Erich

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01-03-2010 11:16 PM  7 years agoPost 132
cudaboy_71

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subbed. and kudos for taking on the challenge.

all this stuff predates my heli days--but not my scratch and stick-build planker days. i do envy the end fruits of your labor...but, not so much the labor. this is one of those builds best admired from the sidelines, methinks

good luck.

if it ain't broke, break it.

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01-16-2010 01:34 AM  7 years agoPost 133
dkshema

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I haven't had a chance to do a lot of work on this baby recently. But in the interim, HeliAdict had a set of both the long and short tail rotor pushrods and sent them to me to use on this bird.

Thanks to HeliAdict for that generous deed, it gets the heli one step closer to being flightworthy.

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01-19-2010 04:18 AM  7 years agoPost 134
dkshema

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A bit more work. Radio is installed (AR7000) and a GY401 gyro. The canopy halves are now in one piece. The canopy shows signs of spending 20+ years in a garage in less than desirable conditions. But, it fit, it's in one piece, and needs some reinforcing in a few strategic spots as Dr. Ben noted. The seam needs some cleaning up too, per Tmoore's post.

That GOOP stuff is nasty. I got most of the spots where it oozed cleaned up. The canopy might want a bit of very light sanding with very fine grit wet or dry paper to take care of some of the scars and scratches from all those years of storage. I still have to mount the rear plywood and plastic scrap stiffeners, but I think I'm nearing the painting step. That will call for nice weather here in Iowa. Could be awhile.

I still have to mount the tank, and get a cooling shroud extension, as well as a hex-start adapter for a 6mm shaft. I think Tmoore noted earlier in this thread that a Hirobo adapter ought to work. I'll have to scroll up some and refresh my memory.

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01-19-2010 04:38 AM  7 years agoPost 135
Wayne Mann

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If I'm not mistaken we used Scotch Brite on the canopies prior to painting. I'm not sure how sand paper would or would not work on plastic.

Wayne Mann

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01-19-2010 04:48 AM  7 years agoPost 136
dkshema

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I was considering some 600 grit wet or dry paper used wet, but would have to test it on a scrap first. The Scotch Brite sounds like a possibility, too.

I'm also going to try a scrap on some Rustoleum primer for plastics and some Krylon Fusion, another paint that's supposed to work on plastic. I've used both on bleach bottle canopies with great success.

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01-19-2010 04:49 AM  7 years agoPost 137
heli_headcase

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Wet ScotchBrite should dull the raw plastic fine in prep for paint but 600 grit Wet-or-Dry paper does well too. The advantage of the ScotchBrite is how well it conforms to the curved surfaces and generally holds up well.

Don't forget, there are many grades ('grits') of SB, from ultra fine (grey), to coarse (red). Most common is the green or medium grit. You have to look around and try a few different types to get the degree of scuffing needed.


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01-19-2010 04:55 AM  7 years agoPost 138
dkshema

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Don't forget, there are many grades ('grits' of SB, from ultra fine (grey), to coarse (red).
Cedar Rapids isn't known for its large selection of shopping, or materials. I'll have to shop around and see what I can find locally.

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01-19-2010 05:03 AM  7 years agoPost 139
heli_headcase

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Ah HA! You can always go mail order! Have you ever ordered anything from MSCDirect? You get your items shipped to you in one to two days typically.

Here's a result of a search on their site:

http://www1.mscdirect.com/CGI/GSDRV...000000123350726


HHC

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01-19-2010 05:17 AM  7 years agoPost 140
dkshema

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I'm used to mail order and on-line stuff. UPS, USPS, FedEX keep me supplied with my hobby stuff....

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