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09-07-2009 01:24 AM  8 years agoPost 1
jutrast

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I'm in the process of learning tic-tocs, and have a tendancy to drift to the left. I think I'm adding some aileron to my elevator movements, and a couple folks tell me they tightened up the aileron tension on their gimbal.

Sounds like a good idea now, but wondering if that may hurt in the long run as I do more with the piro flips - i.e. will it affect my ability to make the constant circle.

Ideally, I suppose I should learn to correct for my drifting. Just wondering if the gimbal tension would be a good tool to remove the stray movements to begin with.

Any feedback on the tic-tocs, or gimbal tension?

Toby

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09-07-2009 02:53 AM  8 years agoPost 2
FlaG8r

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Add some more expo.

Life is tough, it's tougher if you're stupid

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09-07-2009 03:39 AM  8 years agoPost 3
AaronJohnson

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Gimbal tension is purely personal preference. If you like the gimbals tighter then make them tighter. I dont have any issue stirring the sticks with them adjusted fairly tight.

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09-07-2009 09:20 AM  8 years agoPost 4
J2M

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jutrast

Sounds like you are learning tail down elevator tic-tocs. With these, if you were adding aileron, the heli would tend to roll to the left or the right during the tic-toc and you do indeed need to learn to keep the stick in the middle while cycling the elevator back and forth (or add stick tension or add expo)

If the whole heli is drifting to the left, your problem is actually unintended rudder inputs. Bizarre as it may seem, you control the lateral position of the heli with rudder during a tic-toc. In a tail down ele TT with the disc facing you, adding left rudder will cause the whole heli to move to the left and vice versa. Try it and see

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09-07-2009 10:06 AM  8 years agoPost 5
naked painter

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J2M, cracking advice.

I'm having the same problem as jutrast, now I get it!

Thanks mate.

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09-07-2009 01:04 PM  8 years agoPost 6
J2M

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naked painter

Very glad to help. Took me ages to work it out myself and for some reason it doesn't seem widely known. By the way, in case it's not obvious the rudder controls lateral movement of the heli whether the tail is up or down and whether it's an aileron or ele tic-toc.

Once you know how to move the heli around during tic-tocs, you can also hold them exactly where you want them, even in a wind. One of my favourite moves is a nose-down, rolling elevator tic-toc which travels from left to right across the field. I start at the left with a nose-down ele tic-toc with the disc toward me, then add and hold some aileron to get it rolling as well and then start moving the heli with a bit of right rudder (disc towards) switching to left rudder when the disc faces away from me and so on. When the disc is side on to me, I use pitch to keep the heli moving in the right direction and get the rudder vertical to stop the heli moving towards or away from me. On a compound tic-toc like this (drunken sailor is another example) you really have to focus on the rudder all the time to get the heli going where you want it and to control speed

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09-07-2009 01:22 PM  8 years agoPost 7
jutrast

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Thanks everyone... I'll try to watch the rudder when I practce today.

Toby

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09-07-2009 01:22 PM  8 years agoPost 8
naked painter

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Any more tips? Funnels etc..

Thanks for replying..

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09-07-2009 02:19 PM  8 years agoPost 9
Richardmid1

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All helis will drift to the left during tail down tic tocs because of the push from the tail rotor. Adding a slight bit of right rudder during your tick tocks will cure this. As said tick tocks are steered using rudder inputs not aileron.

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