RunRyder RC
 4  Topic Subscribe
WATCH
 1 page 1398 views
HelicopterEngines Plugs Mufflers Fuel › Align starter Wand
09-06-2009 11:27 PM  8 years agoPost 1
pcskyhi

rrApprentice

Houston, TX

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I have recently purchased the Align starter system and used it probably a couple of times. Today, I went to start my Freya Evo 90 and the starter shaft just spun in the starter coupling. @ first I thought the starter coupling came loose from the shaft but that was not the case. Luckily I had my Maverick starter with a sullivan starter wand with me. Guess what, the starter wand caught on in the coupling and started right up. The ball end edges of the align starter wand have rounded off and don't catch anymore. Has anyone else had this experience?
Hello after market gurus I smell opportunity (come on Sullivan). For now the Align starter wand still turns my Avant FX and my Sceadu Evo 50 but not my Freya Evo 90 or my Robbe Conquest. The Sullivan starter wand turns everything.
I still love the Align starter. It is compact and light and does not do the jackhammer dance on my helis like the Mavrick starter.
Does anyone know where I can just find the shaft without the one way part?

pcskyhi - live and learn

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 01:10 AM  8 years agoPost 2
1WOLFS1

rrApprentice

, vt usa

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

i plan on buying one of the align starters soon . all i have is 50 s right now so should be fine.

thanks

wolf

PM  EMAIL  HOMEPAGE  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 07:24 AM  8 years agoPost 3
pcskyhi

rrApprentice

Houston, TX

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

It has nothing to do with the size of the heli. It still works on my Avant FX which is a .90. I am referring to the starter shaftn not the power capability of the starter. The starter starter has no problem starting my .90s. It si the shaft that has rounded off and not catching on to the starter coupling on a couple of my birds. At first it was catching onto all the couplings of all my helis but now it is not because the edges of the hex portion has roundede out.

pcskyhi - live and learn

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 08:29 AM  8 years agoPost 4
what_the_helli

rrKey Veteran

cookeville, tn USA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I wonder if they got the shaft made by the same company that made the screwdriver for the 250

I put the fun in dysFUNctional :)
Team KBDD & Funding by TnPrintMasters.com

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 11:34 AM  8 years agoPost 5
Eric Giorgianto

rrApprentice

New Jersey

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Wand.

Hi Guys, I am a Jeweler by trade,and I noticed a long time ago that some wands are made of material that is very soft. So I started to experiment a little. I now take my wand and heat the tip with a torch until it glows red, I then quench it in cold water. this is called Anealing, and it tempers the metal to make it very hard. I'm not saying anyone should do this, all I'm saying is this works for me, and I am experienced in metal working. Just a side note if you heat metal to glow red then let it air cool, you will make it very soft, the opposite effect of quick cooling. Also remember that doing this will void your warantee on replacement shafts. I would snd the shaft back to manufacturer with a note about what happened and they should replace it for free plus shipping.

Just my 2 cents

Eric G.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 12:07 PM  8 years agoPost 6
Ice93

rrNovice

Singapore

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

I've experience the exact same problem on my 600NSP. Even though the ball seem to have rounded off just a little it enough to make it spin freely in the starter coupling.

I also feel that the steel used in the Align shaft is softer (causing it to strip) In the end I just took the shaft out of my K&S starter wand, drilled 2 hole and viola a new shaft for my Align Starter & no problems after that. I made the holes using a hand drill (its bitch getting the holes to line up. Used a bench drill if you have one)

BTW a mate who flies with me also has the same problem....hope this helps....

PM  EMAIL  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 08:39 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Against Gravity

rrVeteran

Pottstown PA

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Coupler stripping

The combination of small serface area to hold and soft metal in couplers does not work well, and can make shaft removal a real B%$c.
My fix is mounting Hirobo starter couplings on all my birds.
Works great no slipping and little wear.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-07-2009 09:26 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Pulento

rrVeteran

CHILE

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

My experience is somehow different.

I got one of these new starters, I had a TorqueMaster 90 with 4S LiPo and a Hirobo shaft that is great. Just wanted a lighter setup and the Align stuff saved 600gr on my field tote

I noted the shaft didn´t get all the way inside the coupler on any Align heli I tried it. I tried a couple of 600N my 700N and others, but on my Vibes it did get all the way in with a little force. So I sanded the edges of the ball just a tiny bit and it helped.

Maybe some of you experienced the same and that made the shaft to wear since it was sitting on the upper part of the coupler ?

I´ll continue monitoring mine since I don´t want to strip all my couplers. And probably will cut and made the holes on my trusty Hirobo shaft.

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-08-2009 02:52 AM  8 years agoPost 9
Ducati996

rrApprentice

Reno, Nevada

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

Same problem

I have had that same problem, I just bought a T shape Allen wrench and pulled the handle off. Problem solved, never again had that problem. Those wrenches are made out of harden steel.

Good luck

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
09-08-2009 07:39 AM  8 years agoPost 10
pcskyhi

rrApprentice

Houston, TX

My Posts: All  Forum  Topic

At some point we should get tired of having to come up with other solutions to get things to work when we pay good money. The starter itself is great but they need to redesign the starter shaft (the Ball portion) and harden it. Now I have to go back to using my Maverick starter which works fine but jack hammers my birds but the Sullivan starter shaft attached to it works excellent! I hope Align comes up with a solution fast before I regret spending $120.00 plus battery for this starter.

As usual we have to hope some aftermarket company comes up with a replacement which means spending more money that should not have to be spent in the first place.

pcskyhi - live and learn

PM  EMAIL  GALLERY  Attn:RR  Quote
WATCH
 1 page 1398 views
HelicopterEngines Plugs Mufflers Fuel › Align starter Wand
 Print TOPIC  Make Suggestion 

 4  Topic Subscribe

Monday, December 18 - 8:20 pm - Copyright © 2000-2017 RunRyder   EMAILEnable Cookies

Login Here
 New Subscriptions 
 Buddies Online