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09-06-2009 01:39 AM  8 years agoPost 1
alexz

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So with a car with rear drum brakes, Do you have to have the self adjusting spring and spredder for the emergency brake, for the brake to stell work right? I'm thinking that if it is not in there then there just well not be emergency brake on that side but the brak on that side well work just as well. Is that right?

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09-06-2009 01:42 AM  8 years agoPost 2
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Yes

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09-06-2009 02:19 AM  8 years agoPost 3
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yes it will work without it, or no it wont work without it?

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09-06-2009 02:24 AM  8 years agoPost 4
Brokenlink

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you can leave off the emergency brake parts and you just won't have an E brake.Why not just unhook the cable at the drum.You will still have to have the springs that hold the shoes tight against the wheel cylinder{hyd.Part that spreads the shoes apart)

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09-06-2009 04:51 AM  8 years agoPost 5
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the emergency brake is required to be functional to pass the safety test.
plus why take the chance on removing it there are many instances where you will need it, not including the safety aspect like what happenes when your brake booster fails and all you have to brake with is the emergency brake!!

the self adjuster is there to auto automatically adjust the shoes as the pads wear down it has to be there

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09-06-2009 07:44 AM  8 years agoPost 6
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man, do i hate working on drum brakes! crawling around looking for springs!

you can find a disc brake conversion for nearly ANY application these days, dont fight it.

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09-06-2009 10:08 AM  8 years agoPost 7
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Now that you have shown the full exploded parts assembly of the drum system it is crazy that it takes that many parts to do the job. Gotta love disc brakes.

My truck has rear discs but the e-brake part is a smaller drum inside the rotor with alot of those parts in it. A bear to work on.

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09-06-2009 10:51 AM  8 years agoPost 8
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So with a car with rear drum brakes, Do you have to have the self adjusting spring and spredder for the emergency brake, for the brake to stell work right? I'm thinking that if it is not in there then there just well not be emergency brake on that side but the brak on that side well work just as well. Is that right?
Your brakes will work exactly the same without the emergency brake hooked up as it will with it. The only differnce is like you say you wont have an emergency brake is all.If you have an automatic trans you dont need an emergency brake unless park is messed up in your trans. If you have a stick shift there might be times you could use the emergency brake.

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09-06-2009 10:59 AM  8 years agoPost 9
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Why on earth would you want to drive anywhere without an emergency brake?

Are you planning on never having your master cylinder or brake lines or flex lines or brake pedal linkage fail? Excellent planning.
Do you have to have the self adjusting spring and spredder for the emergency brake, for the brake to stell work right?
If by 'spreader' you mean the socket & screw assembly at the bottom of the shoes which adjusts to tighten the shoes' fit, the answer is YES, you need it.

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09-06-2009 11:17 AM  8 years agoPost 10
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Why on earth would you want to drive anywhere without an emergency brake? Are you planning on never having your master cylinder or brake lines or brake pedal linkages fail?

Excellent planning.
Surly your not planning to use your emergency brake to stop your car in case of an emergency,its inafective at speeds over......well 0 miles an hour. I also believe its more correctly called a parking brake

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09-06-2009 11:20 AM  8 years agoPost 11
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Surly your not planning to use your emergency brake to stop your car in case of an emergency
So when you someday have problems with your hydraulics, you'll just quickly stick your foot out the door and drag it on the pavement to stop? Brilliant.
its inafective at speeds over......well 0 miles an hour.
Wrong.
I also believe its more correctly called a parking brake
Also wrong -- something even the OP seems to know.

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09-06-2009 11:23 AM  8 years agoPost 12
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Surly your not planning to use your emergency brake to stop your car in case of an emergency
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So when you someday have problems with your hydraulics you'll just stick your foot out the door and drag it on the pavement to stop? Brilliant.
It would be a lot more effective.

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09-06-2009 11:25 AM  8 years agoPost 13
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Surly your not planning to use your emergency brake to stop your car in case of an emergency
So when you someday have problems with your hydraulics you'll just stick your foot out the door and drag it on the pavement to stop? Brilliant.
It would be a lot more effective.
And you build and fly RC helis? Amazing.

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09-06-2009 11:28 AM  8 years agoPost 14
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In sweden we call it parking brake, not emergency brake.
But the rules say you should have two completely separate system for braking the car, so it acts as a emergency brake by regulation.

Most parking brakes will take your car to a complete stop, but it isnt sure if you will come to stop in the same state or if it'll be in the one overhead

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09-06-2009 11:39 AM  8 years agoPost 15
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Most parking brakes will take your car to a complete stop
All properly adjusted emergency brakes will take a car to a complete stop.

If a car's emergency brakes can't lock up the rear wheels (or fronts on some cars) at any speed then they're not adjusted (or working) right. There's good reasons why they're REQUIRED equipment.

Doug, would you like your kids playing on the sidewalk in the neighborhoods he drives through?

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09-06-2009 12:40 PM  8 years agoPost 16
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All properly adjusted emergency brakes will take a car to a complete stop.

If a car's emergency brakes can't lock up the rear wheels (or fronts on some cars) at any speed then they're not adjusted (or working) right. There's good reasons why they're REQUIRED equipment.
I cant tell you many PARKING BRAKES i have had to replace because people drove their car with it applied and didnt even know it untill they smelled something funny. And this was on Mercedes and BMW's. Its not an emergency brake,its a parking brake that is used for parking not stopping your car from 50 mph.

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09-06-2009 12:43 PM  8 years agoPost 17
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I cant tell you many PARKING BRAKES i have had to replace because people drove their car with it applied and didnt even know it untill they smelled something funny.
So you'd rather just remove all emergency brakes to make your life easier??

And what do foolish drivers who rarely look at their dash panel indicator lights have to do with the solid common sense of having a backup EMERGENCY braking system for when some part of the hydraulic system someday fails?
Its not an emergency brake,its a parking brake that is used for parking not stopping your car from 50 mph.
Wrong again.

Would you like your kids playing on the sidewalk in the neighborhoods people drive through with no EMERGENCY brakes?

The answer is apparently YES.

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09-06-2009 12:49 PM  8 years agoPost 18
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Doug, would you like your kids playing on the sidewalk in the neighborhoods he drives through?
Hell NO !!! Here is Mass it's required and part of passing the yearly vehicle inspection.
Last year a brake line in my truck burst open coming to a rather busy intersection, the hydraulic brake system still worked to some degree with the pedal to the floor but the emergency brake did in fact prevent some serious carnage. Its one of those things that you don't need until you need it and then you REALLY need it.

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09-06-2009 01:32 PM  8 years agoPost 19
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This fella thought he could get away without an E-brake as well He's lucky to be alive.

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09-06-2009 03:26 PM  8 years agoPost 20
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DS 8717 hit it right on the head. Its for parking

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