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09-06-2009 04:57 PM  8 years agoPost 21
holzback

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noblesville IN United States

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i have had these things happen before, but it was the motor in the servo that was weak. that could explain why when you turned up the gain it got worse because the servo has gotten weak and dose not have the power to work with high gain settings. it may look like it works good, but it may be weak.

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09-06-2009 09:35 PM  8 years agoPost 22
Sonic88

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Murfreesboro, TN

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I have only had my 401 blow out once on me. I was at IRCHA on Sunday (last day) and I got my Beam E4 way too far out and could hardly see it. So I just gave it back elevator and lots of pitch to try and bring it back into view, into the wind none the less. Just when I could see it clearly enough, the tail blew out and piro'd about 3 or 4 times. Managed to recover, but that is the only real problem I ever had and it was really my fault. Fast backward flight into high winds is not a great idea.

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09-07-2009 02:28 PM  8 years agoPost 23
helidevil

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yea^^^ im doing that almost all flight so i just need a better gyro but im going to try a buddys stuf. a 401 and 9253 as opposed to a 9650

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09-07-2009 03:40 PM  8 years agoPost 24
DarkSide41

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I have had nothing but bad luck with 401's. Smash it to bits and buy something better. I just lost a trex 600e due to a 401 failure. Some guys have good luck with them but I never have. It may work fine for a few months but then one day, BAM, it doesn't do what it is supposed to do.
401 is so 1990`s

come into the new century.
LOL , I wonder just how many of us could actually FLY a RC heli 10 years ago,before all the latest greatest electronic copilot devices to help.... Nobody wants to worry about the tail of a helicopter anymore. Pretty soon it will all be flybarless,full gyro stabilazation and a 5 year old can 3D one...uh wait,there already are 5 year olds that can spank azz

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09-07-2009 03:58 PM  8 years agoPost 25
keithstric

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The 401 works great for non aggressive flying but you tell me a 401 can hold and perform just as good as a Solid G or a 611 on hard maneuvers? If you say it does then you are smoking crack!!
Here is a video of a Hirobo SDX using a 401 with a 9254 tail servo. So, if you're saying that it doesn't perform, here's the proof that it does.

Watch at YouTube

When setup properly the 401 is a very good gyro. I agree that it's not on par with a 611 and that there are better gyros out there, but for someone on a budget those other, more expensive gyros may not be an option.
I have had nothing but bad luck with 401's. Smash it to bits and buy something better.
I say get the gyro/radio setup properly and you'll be happy with the 401. No need to trash a perfectly good gyro.

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09-07-2009 04:13 PM  8 years agoPost 26
Raffy

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The 401 is a very good gyro on non-windy days. On a windy day, expect to be pushed over!

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09-07-2009 05:04 PM  8 years agoPost 27
ruddernate

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LOL , I wonder just how many of us could actually FLY a RC heli 10 years ago,before all the latest greatest electronic copilot devices to help....
this is my point. i learned with 401's and still can't outfly them. granted in fast backward flight they will blow out a little. but you learn to compensate. thanks for posting the vid keitstric, helps prove my point. i can't fly like that so thanks. as far as the wind goes, i live in oklahoma and fly in strong winds all the time. the 401 does fine. i think people are quick to get spoiled. i also learned without a gov. and this is another area people get spoiled in. i just put my first gov. on my new tz but i'm glad i learned without one. one learns proper setup without simply strapping on the latest gizmo. gyros and govs. stabilization systems, imho should be used after one knows how to do it without. when something fails i'll know how to compensate. flame suit energized.

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09-07-2009 11:12 PM  8 years agoPost 28
Raptor Pilot

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Northern Ireland U.K

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[/quote]I wonder just how many of us could actually FLY a RC heli 10 years ago,before all the latest greatest electronic copilot devices to help....[quote]

ME!!! Well, it was more like you were fighting it to get it even to hover! I started my heli career way back when gyros were thought to be cheating. I never even attempted a circuit without a gyro. My first gyro was a Morley gold rate which you could hear the gyro winding up!
All my heli fleet now has the 401 with the 9254 tail servo and i have yet to outfly the gyro. It works for me, its a good gyro for what im doing but yes, there is better out there at more money for the extreme 3D flyers. There is no point really in haveing a CSM 720 if you are only learning to hover on your first flight. If you can afford it,then good luck to you. Less will do and a 401 is more than enough when properly set up for most guys.

If it doesnt move and its meant too... use WD 40. If it moves and its not meant too...use duct tape!

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09-08-2009 01:42 AM  8 years agoPost 29
Eric Giorgianto

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Gyro not working ?????

Hey Buddy, I have to agree with Kiethstric, that video proves that as important as good equipment is, the guy behind the sticks is just as important, as is proper setup and practice. Lots of people buy the latest and greatest choppers, with bling to the max, they buy the best and most expensive electronics, and that's great but I think some of that money could be saved if they learned to use their equipment to it's fullest extent. BTW the guy that posted this problem with the gyro does mention in another post that he did crash it 2 or 3 times. So why
do others trash the quality of a perfectly good gyro? I have been using 401's for years and I have never had a problem with them. Are there better gyros out there? Yes of course, there will always be something better, but for me I try to get the most out of what I have before I trash it or spend money on eye candy.I have found that the best way to get my equipment to fly better is to take the time to set it up properly and to practice,practice practice.

Just my 4 cents,"inflation"

Eric G.

BTW, Helidevil why don't you send the 401 back to Futaba for a checkup?

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