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09-05-2009 10:30 AM  8 years agoPost 1
Wimbledon99

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Hi,

This is my first venture in to Flybarless

I have a spare Raptor 50 on the shelf and was wondering if I can use this successfully

Can I start out with m-CCPM or is it recommended / easier to use e-CCPM?

Was also looking to use the Outrage 50 Head conversion. Any thoughts / suggestions?

Thanks

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-05-2009 12:04 PM  8 years agoPost 2
MrMel

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a friend of mine did a Raptor 50, he used Mikado conversion for the T-rex 600, but I guess Outrage will work too.

VBar handles mCCPM as well as eCCPM, just select the appropriate swash layout, in this case H-1

Gone fishing..or hunting..or something
My site: http://heli.dacsa.net - VBar videos and more

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09-05-2009 12:53 PM  8 years agoPost 3
GregRC

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Mikado V-Bar V4 and Raptor 50

W,

I too am converting my R50-Titan to the V-Bar system. I got the Outrage head yesterday and am in the process of studying/installing same. Will be working on it today. No instructions/diagrams came with the head kit, just a bunch of parts in several bags.

I have the VBar installed and working, i.e. operating the servos etc...in the software, use the H-1 setup for Elev and Aileron and everthing should work nicely, I used the TRex 600 preset....

I'll keep you posted.....

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09-05-2009 01:13 PM  8 years agoPost 4
duke666

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I use the Outrage head on a 600ESP and it works great. No instructions required, it assembles pretty much as any other head, should take about 5 - 10 mins tops. I like the fact it comes with heavy duty push rods for the blade grips.

Duke

OOOPPS............

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09-05-2009 03:40 PM  8 years agoPost 5
maxturbine

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I have been flying the Raptor 50 with the V-Bar and the Vario CSS rotor head. Very smooth and fun to fly.

Ralph

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09-05-2009 03:51 PM  8 years agoPost 6
GregRC

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hey Ralph....Greg here....again thanks for the info/pictures....they helped enormously...just getting around to finishing the project...should be done today for flying tomorrow or monday depending on weather....

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09-05-2009 04:19 PM  8 years agoPost 7
Wimbledon99

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Cheers for the replies gents. Looks like I need to get on line and place my order

Is there a lot of 'tweaking' once installed or should it fly 'out of the box'? I understand the performance is Similar to a 'Sim Heli'?

Sorry about all the questions but no-one at our field runs Flybarless so I'm going solo here

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-05-2009 05:10 PM  8 years agoPost 8
Wimbledon99

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I too am converting my R50-Titan to the V-Bar system. I got the Outrage head yesterday and am in the process of studying/installing same. Will be working on it today
Hi GregRC,

can you let me know what pitch range you get. I'm planning on doing my experimenting on my spare Rappy which is a standard Titan.

However, my aim is to eventually end up with it on my new Titan SE which is currently +/- 15 degrees
I have been flying the Raptor 50 with the V-Bar and the Vario CSS rotor head
What about yours maxturbine, what range do you get?

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-05-2009 05:36 PM  8 years agoPost 9
maxturbine

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My raptor is the SE .

Plus 12 and minus 12.

Ralph

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09-06-2009 12:32 AM  8 years agoPost 10
Eco8gator

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MCCPM actually works very good with flybarless. I had a R50 Titan FBL heli(gallery) and the MCCPM setup is very nice.

I only got rid of it becasue I didnt like the annoying TT bearing blocks(ie take the entier thing apart to change them)

C

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09-06-2009 12:46 AM  8 years agoPost 11
GregRC

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Will do W........

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09-07-2009 01:58 AM  8 years agoPost 12
GregRC

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W,

I finished building the Outrage head today...straight forward build...

I have -13, 0, +13 collective at 100% on the Main Rotor....can get more...

now to finish tidying up the wires...

will fly it tomorrow if weather holds....

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09-07-2009 07:03 AM  8 years agoPost 13
Wimbledon99

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will fly it tomorrow if weather holds....
Cool Let us know how you get on - hoping to order mine this week

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-08-2009 02:58 AM  8 years agoPost 14
GregRC

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W,

test flew the heli this pm....first flight was slow and easy..lift off was smooth, no tail wag, hovering was stable, piros were good and forward piros were good also.....did not do autotrim as it was too windy.....

second flight went well, loops, flips rolls, tic tocs(good)...

best of luck with ur conversion....

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09-18-2009 10:18 PM  8 years agoPost 15
Wimbledon99

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Took the leap today but have opted for the 'Dark Side'

Have TREX 700 in the post with Mikado Head and vBar 4. Opted for upgraded screw and linkage set. Will take a lot of 'flak' at the field for going the Align route but hey ho

Cheers

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-19-2009 12:23 AM  8 years agoPost 16
GregRC

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LOL.....I am thinking of doing the same for next spring.....keep us posted and take some pictures of the build....

Good luck

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09-19-2009 10:46 PM  8 years agoPost 17
Wimbledon99

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Just purchased an RJX 50 '09 also. Plan is that if the 700 FBL goes OK, another vBar 4 unit will be required for the 50

3D?? No - just another input error!!!

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09-20-2009 08:16 PM  8 years agoPost 18
leadlag

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The Dustman wil break his back with all these flybars going in the bin.

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