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09-05-2009 07:49 AM  8 years agoPost 21
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Thanks for the Kudos Pete but to be absolutely fair, I only proofed the manual.
I stand corrected -- but after a long day at the field I'd rather stand seated.

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09-05-2009 12:06 PM  8 years agoPost 22
antja

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I made a simple comment that the radio is not compatible with
phoenix, TMoore promptly told me I was wrong when in fact I
was right, He then went on to assume that everyone should know
how or be capable of making a cable themselves.
If he wants respect he should show some to others and not talk
down to them.

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09-05-2009 02:05 PM  8 years agoPost 23
TMoore

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I made a simple comment that the radio is not compatible with
phoenix, TMoore promptly told me I was wrong when in fact I
was right, He then went on to assume that everyone should know
how or be capable of making a cable themselves.
If he wants respect he should show some to others and not talk
down to them.
Here is what I said:
Who says it is not compatible? It absolutely is but to be honest the Phoenix sim or any other wasn't even a consideration in the design of the radio, it just works with all of them. Page 198 in the manual details PPM8 mode
You were wrong but I asked you; who says it is not compatible? The radio is as compatible as any other radio on the market. Just because you can't source a cable for the radio that works with Phoenix, how does that make the radio incompatible? What that sounds like to me is that the folks at Phoenix aren't keeping up with current events so how does that make the radio incompatible? The new radio uses the same pinouts as the Stylus which first hit the market back in 1995. Sounds like Phoenix is way behind to me.

Simming is why there is a PPM mode in the radios software. If Sanwa didn't care about the fellow that wanted to sim we would have done what Spektrum did and made it like the DX7Se which is really incompatible with every sim on the market but they didn't. It's not fair in the least to put the responsibility of making a sim cable on the manufacturer of the radio when it is the sole responsibility of the sim manufacturer to make sure that the peripherials that are provided for the sim are compatible.

If you have an issue getting peripherials to make Phoenix work with the SD10G why not hammer Phoenix in the Phoenix forum instead of posting in the main forum and making it a radio issue instead of what it really is; a software manufacturers issue.

TM

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09-06-2009 09:06 AM  8 years agoPost 24
Steelhog

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OK, I just tested the SD10G with two sims here in the shop. My Reflex dongle crapped the bed but fortunately Tru Flite didn't let me down. If you are looking at the back of the 4 pin S video plug with the cover off, the signal wire from the center pin on the RCA mini Plug goes to the pin that is second from the right. The ground on the RCA mini plug goes to the S Video shield or ground. That's it, set the SD10G to PPM in the Modulation menu and you are working.

Thanks for the Kudos Pete but to be absolutely fair, I only proofed the manual. One of the most talented writers that I've ever been associated with did the manual and it is already getting good marks for being complete and concise. Thanks Todd.

This is the website that shows the JR plugs but doesn't show the ATX:
http://www.endurance-rc.com/pinouts.html

TM
Thanks for the info,however,the plug on the end of the phoenix dongle is a 3.5mm stereo plug.The fitting on the end of the adapter cables is a 3.5mm stereo socket.Did you mean 3.5mm or does your set-up use RCA plug and socket?

SH.

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09-06-2009 04:24 PM  8 years agoPost 25
tadawson

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I think he is mistakenly calling the mini-phone plugs mini-RCA jacks, where there really is no such thing. An RCA plug is the godawful thing with a center pin and 4 "ears" that friction fits into an equally sleazy jack, and typically gets loose in about 15 minutes, and is commonly found on consumer audio interconnects. JR gear uses mini phone plugs - typically stereo . . . .

- Tim

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09-06-2009 06:59 PM  8 years agoPost 26
TMoore

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It's not an RCA Phono plug. I think the technical term is 1/8 Mini Plug, whatever, the center pin on the plug is the signal. Refer to the URL that I posted earlier. The ground is the shield on the 4 pin S Video. It doesn't get much simpler than this. I've probably wired up 50 of these adapters and they are real easy to do.

Do I need to post a picture of what the adapter looks like with the covers off?

TM

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09-07-2009 07:27 AM  8 years agoPost 27
Steelhog

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It's not an RCA Phono plug. I think the technical term is 1/8 Mini Plug, whatever, the center pin on the plug is the signal. Refer to the URL that I posted earlier. The ground is the shield on the 4 pin S Video. It doesn't get much simpler than this. I've probably wired up 50 of these adapters and they are real easy to do.

Do I need to post a picture of what the adapter looks like with the covers off?

TM
Wow,think much of yourself? would posting a picture make you feel special?
Get a real kick out of talking down to people dont you?
If they are so easy to make and you have done 50 or more,and you do them all the time,you should know what the parts are called.
I asked a simple question and pointed out the connection is a 3.5mm socket,not an rca plug or whatever,a socket.I just wanted clarification,not your sarcastic,condescending,i am so clever crap.

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09-07-2009 07:40 AM  8 years agoPost 28
GimbalFan (RIP)

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I made a simple comment that the radio is not compatible with phoenix, TMoore promptly told me I was wrong when in fact I was right
Could you possibly be more daft? The SD-10G is compatible! Amazing.
Wow,think much of yourself? would posting a picture make you feel special? Get a real kick out of talking down to people dont you? If they are so easy to make and you have done 50 or more, and you do them all the time,you should know what the parts are called. I asked a simple question and pointed out the connection is a 3.5mm socket,not an rca plug or,a socket. I just wanted clarification,not your sarcastic,condescending,i am so clever crap. - Steelhog
Brilliant reply, Sparky. Excellent job on your 3rd ever post on the RC world's busiest heli forum. You're off to a resoundingly forgettable start. Nicely done.

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09-07-2009 08:19 AM  8 years agoPost 29
Steelhog

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So what if its the busiest forum,so what if its my 3rd post.Yeah i have only been here a few days but i can already see TMoore gets a real kick out of talkng down to people.Every post he never fails to to blow his trumpet about how easy the adapters are to make,how many he has made,hell,i bet he makes them with his eyes shut while he is busy typing up his next smug comment.You and all his other groupies might enjoy be talked down to like that,I DONT.
If he,you,whoever expects to be treated with respect try showing some yourself.

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09-07-2009 08:28 AM  8 years agoPost 30
GimbalFan (RIP)

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TMoore gets a real kick out of talkng down to people. Every post he never fails to to blow his trumpet
Point out one instance in which TMoore has shown what any sane man would call disrespect in any of his 7800+ posts -- even toward those like you who're showing disrespect to him -- and I'll donate a grand to your favorite charity.

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09-07-2009 08:32 AM  8 years agoPost 31
antja

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why dont you take off your rose tinted spectacle.and take a look at the crap TMoore is posting

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09-07-2009 08:42 AM  8 years agoPost 32
Steelhog

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Do I need to post a picture of what the adapter looks like with the covers off?
Obviously i didn't need a picture since i was asking a question about Tmoore's post that had a picture in it.i wanted clarification on the end of the cable that doesn't plug into the transmitter.
Still,he didn't waste the opporotunity to reiterate how many he has made and how easy they are to make.
Do i need to draw you a picture?

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09-07-2009 08:47 AM  8 years agoPost 33
GimbalFan (RIP)

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why dont you take off your rose tinted spectacle.and take a look at the crap TMoore is posting
Why don't you wake up and pull your head out of your . . . nevermind. Folks like you who can't see the foolishness of an insane course of thought aren't likely to see any value in choosing a more useful place to put their head.
Do i need to draw you a picture?
His question about whether to post a picture was simply another genuine offer to help -- but of course you've read into it what you will -- and you're WRONG -- again.

You're both embarrassing yourselves. Wake up and smell the coffee children.

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09-07-2009 08:52 AM  8 years agoPost 34
Steelhog

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Otaki,new Zealand

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Being new here you're clearly unschooled in the manner of many of the site's most respected and valued members. His question about whether to post an actual picture was simply another genuine offer to help -- but of course you read into it what you will.
an offer to help would be saying,"would it be a help to you if i post a picture of the adapter with the covers off"

saying "do i need to post a picture of what the adapter looks like with the cover off" is being sacrcastic and smug.

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09-07-2009 08:54 AM  8 years agoPost 35
GimbalFan (RIP)

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saying "do i need to post a picture of what the adapter looks like with the cover off" is being sacrcastic and smug.
Wrong!

Antja made a BS claim about an SD-10G being incompatible with a flippin' sim dongle. Terry straightened him out AND offered help, but Antja couldn't accept the actual facts of the situation -- and still can't. HIS bad -- and YOUR bad for also not being able to see the forest amongst the trees.

Thanks to both of you for showing all of us your true colors so early on.

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09-07-2009 09:16 AM  8 years agoPost 36
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Wow Terry, you are right, making the adapter cable is really easy! The SD-10G and Phoenix can be friends...

-Farrell

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09-07-2009 09:21 AM  8 years agoPost 37
antja

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Gimbalfan you are a complete prat.

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09-07-2009 09:21 AM  8 years agoPost 38
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Wow Terry, you are right, making the adapter cable is really easy!
Butt Of Coors.

It's a bit of a shock to see that those who can (allegedly) build and fly RC helis are somehow unable to figure out how to solder a couple two-conductor wires together to make a flippin' sim cable -- even after it's been explained.

Scary, eh?
Gimbalfan you are a complete prat.
Wrong again! You're just not too terribly bright, eh? Clearly not.

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09-07-2009 09:30 AM  8 years agoPost 39
Steelhog

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Gimbalfan you are a complete prat.
Wrong again!
No gimp,you are a Prat.I have met a few in my time and you are certainly one,if not the Queen.

Oh hell,there i go showing my true colours again.Where is the jerkit smiley when you need it.

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09-07-2009 09:35 AM  8 years agoPost 40
HoodaThunkit

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Tule Springs, Arkansas

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wow.. thank god all newzealanders aren't the doofuses you 2 appear to be.

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