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09-03-2009 09:50 PM  8 years agoPost 1
almond

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hi, im searching for the best motor to do 3d in the logo 400, i saw that there is a scorpion the "Scorpion HK-3026 V2 Brushless Motor (1400KV)" and the one that have "1600kv", wich one is the best? or if there is any different motor wich one could be?
thanks

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09-04-2009 02:53 AM  8 years agoPost 2
OICU812

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1400 is most powerfull of those, but requires you have a good esc for certain due to pole count and the amp draw, 1600 as well is fine, not quite as powerfull but more agreeable with some escs and a little easier on packs and so fourth. The Mini Pyro is also an option as well which works good for the Logo 400.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-04-2009 04:09 AM  8 years agoPost 3
jphilli

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Like Shawn said, you're going to need something like a Jive 80/100 LV for the Scorpion -1400.

I went through 4 ESC's before I figured it out.

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09-04-2009 04:14 PM  8 years agoPost 4
Eddie M

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Will the new CC 75 ICE work will with the Scorpion 1400 motor?
What about the CC 85HV? These are what I have and I wonder if they are ok for the Scopion motor in the Logo 400..

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09-06-2009 04:44 PM  8 years agoPost 5
psych-lick

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What about the Scorpion 880kv w/ 20t pinion?

-Jeff T.

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09-06-2009 07:24 PM  8 years agoPost 6
jphilli

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I'm not to sure the Castle ESC's will work. The -1400 is within specs of the Pheonix 125 however I killed two of those ESC's in 4 flights. The KV*Pole count is just too high on 22.2 volts. Maybe if you're running 5S packs it'll be fine but it's just not as fun.

If you're going to go for the -1400 then consider the Jive 100+ LV with a mod .7 gearing setup. That combination is a wicked setup so with a 13t pinion and a 138t main expect to be pulling over 2600 Watts and no bogging at all.

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09-06-2009 07:33 PM  8 years agoPost 7
OICU812

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Jive 80LV will handle all the smaller motors for sure, abit cheaper then the 100 as well. 80-6-18 wouldn't handle most of my motors, but the Jive 80 certainly is not having issue.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-06-2009 07:40 PM  8 years agoPost 8
psych-lick

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I'm also considering the 400 and looking for a motor. Why don't I see any reports of the Scorpion 880 on the 20t pinion? I am using the Scorpion 880 on my Protos and it is working great.

-Jeff T.

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09-06-2009 08:12 PM  8 years agoPost 9
almond

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thank you all, i appreciate your comments, i think i will go with the jive 100lv and the scorpion 1400. i will post my results latter.

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09-06-2009 08:50 PM  8 years agoPost 10
OICU812

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psych-lick,

Simple the gearing is MUCH different on the Logo 400 versus the Protos.

The Protos main gear is (93 tooth)
The Logo 400 main gear is (200 tooth)

Thus far different gearing requiring a much different kv range, 1400kv - 1750 is optimum range for kv for a Logo 400 on 6S, while on the Protos 800 - 1000 topz kv is the range for Protos on 6S lipo.

Hope that clears that up.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-06-2009 08:59 PM  8 years agoPost 11
psych-lick

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Mikado makes a 22 tooth pinion. This, along with the 880kv motor will give pretty much the same head speed as the 1400kv motor on 14 tooth pinion.
http://www.readyheli.com/pinions_s/434.htm

My question still stands. Does anyone have experience with the 880kv Scorpion on the Logo 400?
It seems the larger pinion will make better contact with the main gear and less chance of breaking main gear teeth. Also, a lower kv motor typically has more torque (but is probably canceled out on the larger pinion)

-Jeff T.

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09-06-2009 09:08 PM  8 years agoPost 12
OICU812

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that may be so, however 14 tooth on the 1400 is FAR to slow of HS, you need for example 17 tooth on 1400kv motor for sport which would be 2400-2500HS, 18 tooth on 1400kv would be around 2600-2750 which is where most people run for 3D to aggressive sport. Therefore as I mention, under 1400 starts to get on the low side, you may be able to go as low as 1200 or so with 23 tooth but that'd be it, and the lower on this don't run as good of a target ratio. Lower kv more tourque yes in larger motors such as 36mm cans and larger but smaller motors in this size the kv is only range not so much a proving of torque.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-06-2009 10:10 PM  8 years agoPost 13
psych-lick

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duh..
I was thinking Logo600 head speeds. Thanks for setting me straight.

-Jeff T.

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